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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:15 PM Original message |
Robert Gibbs says Democrats could lose House in November |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. It is unnecessary alarmism. Control of either house is not at a great risk. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Almost like expecting Gore or Kerry to beat Bush |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. I'll bet any amount of money Dems hold the House. |
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ChimpersMcSmirkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. It's a realistic proposition and it needs to taken seriously. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Show me the 40+ House races you think we could lose. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. 20-25 is bad enough. We would still control the House to be sure, but 25 |
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ChimpersMcSmirkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #30 |
54. Intrade has the pukes at 56% winning the house and the trend isn't good. |
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bigdarryl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 06:48 AM Response to Reply #54 |
94. The only problem is it's not November |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Realclearpoltics has it dead even in the House.. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. Really? How many people right here on the DEMOCRATIC Underground won't go vote in Nov.? n/t |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I think that when it comes right down to it, that vast majority of DU-ers will end up voting |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Not many at all. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. alarmism to scare people into voting for the same people who haven't helped main street |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Please, take your case of depression and negativity to a psychiatrist. Many of us prefer to stay |
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kjackson227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
56. And, I guess we'd get more help if the other people get elected? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
78. Work hard for that Green or Socialist candidate |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 05:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
86. Bullshit. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
96. that's what they said in '94 too. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
97. All signs point to a massive GOP wave--40+ seats |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
102. It's not alarmism, it's an attempt to avoid complacency in a mid-term election. |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. How Long Before Impeachment |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. It would take at least another 6...... |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Well, never underestimate the stupidity of that pathetic political party. |
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ChimpersMcSmirkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. They are guaranteed to do it. They are the party of "You Lie" and the Teabaggers. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. Distinct possibility |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Brown won due to a very, very, very SHITTY Dem candidate and campaign. What it does tell us is that |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. That is why we need to take this seriously. We need to get the voters |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. GOD DAMN RIGHT. Here I am from Maine, and I sent Clark a donation. SHE'S GREAT @ KICKING ASS ! |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. Was she worse than, say, Kerry or Dukakis? |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Crushed? Then tell them to go see a psychiatrist and find reality. FDR didn't end the Great |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. FDR did much, much more than Obama |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
67. Re-Check your history.The depression lasted 12 YEARS, and you want Obama to fly in like Superman and |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. FDR took immediate steps to reduce unemployment - and it immediately started dropping |
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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:39 AM Response to Reply #72 |
95. In January 2009 we were losing 750,000 jobs per month, now we are gaining 150,000 to 250,000 |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
48. That was earlier in the year, it doesn't count for a thing at this point |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. They do next to nothing to maintain support of the base for two years |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. Deleted message |
DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Your reality is stagnation, which most were rejecting by voting for Obama |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Bullshit ! List exactly what you wanted passed, and then tell me how you were going to get it all |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. I think that you both have good points. We will never see absolute purity, but that is no excuse not |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. They've accomplished MORE than about any other administration in so little time. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. Then you have nothing to worry about. You can rest on your laurels until Nov n/t |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Not what I said at all. The opposition party is ALWAYS more energized in mid terms. We need to WORK. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
52. We just wanted him to *try* to live up to his promises |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. On what planet do you spend most of your time? Fair pay law, DONE. Healthcare, DONE. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. Healthcare not done. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 06:06 PM Response to Reply #69 |
88. Quit your whining. Healthcare favorability is up 7 points over unfavorability. He is doing |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:52 AM Response to Reply #58 |
92. You forgot some things. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #52 |
66. DELETED |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. It depends on how it is said. STOP feeding the narrative that Dems are going to lose BIG, but DO |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
7. Never rely on a rational electorate. Look at the UK... |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Uh uh. Gordon Brown = SHITTY CANDIDATE and after 13 years of Labour there was a change. Also, |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Increase NHS, but fillet everything else. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Of course after 13 years you're bound to have some shift. And again, Brown stunk as a candidate. |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. The good people of the UK... |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. 13 years. 13 years and a shitty, unpopular fellow in Gordon Brown. That is the END of the story. |
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impik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
14. I would assume they're trying to wake people up |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. It's a wake-up. You just have to be careful in how you word things. There is no reason we can't do |
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Raine1967 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
68. And that's pretty much what Gibbs said. From the OP's link: |
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MikeW (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
31. people calling this alarmism have their heads in the sand |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Good points, but also ATTACK the TeaRadicals damn good and hard ! You have to BRAND the |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. "Talking" jobs isn't the solution. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
60. FDR was another time, AND it finally took WW2 to end the Depression which last 12 years ! And, |
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MikeW (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. not to burst your bubble but ... |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Don't worry about my "bubble." I guess you haven't seen my many other posts in this forum. First, |
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MikeW (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 05:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
82. he needs to deliver to the American people ... thats the point |
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PopSixSquish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
35. The Administration Signaled a Few Weeks Back That This Was the Strategy for November |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. And this comparison has been the center of the Obama speeches. Also ATTACK the GOBP as do-nothing |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
53. Another round of "we suck less - who the fuck else ya gonna vote for, chumps!?" |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Not happy? Then prove you can elect better people even in RED territory. Can't? Then quit bitching. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. First, prove that you exist |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #71 |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #74 |
84. I think your post is against DU rules |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #84 |
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puzzlingpond (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
40. I think the repugs will take some seats but not enough |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
43. You prepare for the worst and hope for the best |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #43 |
63. Prepare for the worst and WORK LIKE HELL for the best, and ATTACK the RePUKES ! |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
44. Simple, really. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
47. No one can say it's not possible |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 06:08 PM Response to Reply #47 |
90. I agree it is VERY unlikely as long as we are real, campaign, and vote. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
49. Do we want this guy to be the Speaker of the House? |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
50. Gibbs is just stating the facts. Unless we work our asses off |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #50 |
64. Well, "holocaust" is a little strong, but yes, we need to CAMPAIGN and ATTACK the GOBP HARD ! Do |
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kjackson227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
55. As a Dem voter, I feel hearing information like this from Gibbs gets me fired... |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. START TODAY. Write letters to the editor. Go to your local campaign office and sign up. I have. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #55 |
80. Exactly. Taking it for granted is not an option. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 05:54 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. I know. Sad, missed opportunity. If Capuano was the candidate, Naked Man Brown would have LOST. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
57. Gibbs also said Dems just need to campaign well and vote, and he said GOBP leadership would SUCK. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
62. Anything |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 04:41 PM Response to Reply #62 |
76. People have no historical perspective. Looking at that chart all President's |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
77. I wouldn't even want to chance this. Bohner is to much to take. n/t |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
79. I'm beginning to think they're trying to lose ON PURPOSE! |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #79 |
89. Ultra cynical post. C'mon. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. Well, it's not unprecedented when you're talking about Gibbs. |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
81. Teabaggers (most of the republicans) are fired up. It can happen easily. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 05:50 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Not "easily" as long as we campaign and ATTACK the TeaIdiots. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #81 |
91. WH support is lukewarm from most, and the teabag crowd is fired up, so yes, I agree, they could get |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 06:39 AM Response to Original message |
93. It is in the nature of elections |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
99. He just stated a FACT-there ARE enough seats in play. He then went on to say it'll be a choice |
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libmom74 (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
100. I'm having a |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
101. No, its not unneccessary alarmism, just read DU |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Yet, it's the very people here who are demoralized that claim it was unnecessary alarmism. |
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besdayz (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
104. breakdown |
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