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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 01:39 PM
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Big Ed: The President looks worn out and tired I wouldn't be surprise of if he doesn't run in 2012
Edited on Wed Jul-07-10 01:40 PM by bigdarryl
DAMN!! Ed just let the other side hear you spewing that shit gives them something to cheer about.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 01:40 PM
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1. I can't imagine Obama losing in 2012
Edited on Wed Jul-07-10 01:40 PM by mdmc
but ya never know..
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 01:42 PM
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3. I don't know what the fuck Ed is talking about Obama looks fine to me just a little Grey that's it
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MikeW Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 08:35 PM
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32. then imagine this ....
The fed estimates current unemployment at ~ 14.9 million ... I think thats way way underestimated but anyway ...

Voters who have been unemployed for say 14 -22 months and still dont have jobs are going to blame whomever (Obama)

and the party in power (Democrats).

I can guarantee you this .. I'll even tape a $50 bill to my monitor if I have one ... If Obama pushes immigration hard
and amnesty along with it there will be a LOT of VERY VERY ANGRY UNEMPLOYED voters.

My personal opinion as an American out in the streets talking with people every day outside of liberal centers like Berkley unless
the ONLY THING that comes out of Obama's mouth is JOBS JOBS JOBS he's done.

If he goes with amnesty the Repubs are going to fry the democrats with it.

People can say what they want they can out all of the moral outrage together; its unpopular - blah blah blah so what blah we still need to do it ... blah.

If Americans dont see you taking care of Americans fist ... your through as a politician.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 07:25 AM
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41. even then, the GOP will have to put up a face
Palin (l)
Jeb Bush (l? perhaps win if Fla..)
Mike Hucks (l)
Ghouls (? - I always fear the Ghouliani)
Mitt - (l)

I don't think any of these people can get out of the Bush/Cheney shadow of disappointment.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 01:41 PM
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2. Ed needs something to say to kill and hour
:shrug:
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 01:43 PM
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4. Do not kill the messenger.. Just the message.
If Ed said it this is not a novel idea.
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KeyWester Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 01:56 PM
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5. Big Ed is a big fucking idiot
What a stupid thing to say.

That guy has zero sense
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The_Commonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 02:05 PM
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7. I've always thought he seemed kinda dumb.
But I guess, he's "our" kinda dumb, so that's why people here seem to like him.
I don't think I've ever been able to handle more than about a minute of the guy...
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LibinMo Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 02:15 PM
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8. His voice sounds too much like Rush to me.
I can't take it for more that a few minutes either.
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KeyWester Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 02:26 PM
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11. Ya , dumb
and always two steps behind everyone else, even the GOP.

His show is one long complaint with no real content.
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shotten99 Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 02:27 PM
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12. Yeah, what a BS thing to say
Reverse psyccology to motivate people to vote in 2010?
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 10:00 PM
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36. So in other words, what you're saying about Ed is....
HeDidIt .... again? :shrug:
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 02:04 PM
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6. He said this after watching a Boehner advertisement AGAINST the presdisent.
I heard him talking about it, and all I could think was WHY is Ed basing an opinions after watching a GOP opposition ad?

You REALLY think Boehner is going to make the president look good? REALLY?

I don't mind Ed, but this was stupid of him. He did nothing more than give Boehner legitimacy.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 02:16 PM
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9. this is what happens when you take a former Conservative who is supposed to be a progressive now
sometimes it slips out on them and they forget like that jackass on TYT all he does is talk negative about the democrats and Obama for an hour he's another supposed reform rethug now a progressive.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 02:20 PM
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10. With Big Ed, if I bother to listen,
First I put my earmuffs on and then.... :boring:
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 02:35 PM
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13. It wouldn't be the first time an American president quit after serving a single term,
although it would be the first time since 1880, and Hayes had pledged when first elected to only serve one term.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 08:38 PM
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34. errr... Johnson left after one term.
So did Truman.
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NICO9000 Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 02:43 PM
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14. News flash: ALL presidents go gray in office except for Reagan
Even Dumbya did and I figured he would be the first one who didn't since he obviously didn't worry about much. Ronnie of course, hit the hair dye for years.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 04:41 PM
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22. Hair dye?
I just figured he didn't go gray cause he'd already checked out mentally the day after the inauguration.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 06:55 PM
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27. Never mind that he's pushing 50
I'm about 6 months older than the President. I have as many gray hairs as he does, and I am not President. Most people start graying in middle ages. It's sad that some people haven't figured that out yet.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 02:49 PM
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15. They have to say such things just to keep people interested. Obama is in better shape at this time
politically (in the polls) than Carter, Clinton & Reagan were at a comparable time and all three ran again, and two of them won and won big.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 02:52 PM
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16. If he actually said this, he put his whole big stinky foot in his mouth. STUPID remark.
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 02:55 PM
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17. He is attacked by the right, he is attacked by the left, why would he run in 2012
lets see how DU likes it with a repig in office again,


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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 06:04 PM
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26. HEAR, HERE!
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 03:10 PM
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18. Of course he is tired. But he looked far worse in interviews last year.
Way more tired then.
But this was not going to be an easy task for any person who assumed office. It was a lot on the plate to begin with. If McCain was in there he probably would have had a stroke by now.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 03:31 PM
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19. What an irresponsible dick
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 03:54 PM
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20. A male psychic (apolitical) said the same thing to me Sunday afternoon
Edited on Wed Jul-07-10 03:55 PM by Mimosa
I told him all the reasons I thought he was wrong.

As for that ED guy, not being a fan of any MSNBC shows, I've only heard 'Ed' once or twice for short periods. I don't like his voice. I know nothing about his bio.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 07:19 PM
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29. cause he has so much better he can do ...
I mean, lots of other bigger things out there for a 50 year old man to do ...

People are just saying crape to say it to think he won't run again ... And, this whole why would he run again if the right, left and media are so mean to him thing ... Like he didn't know that going in ...

It is a TOUGH job, and it wears people out ... But, I agree, he looked more gased last year after a couple of years of campaigning ...

There have been and there will continue to be ups and downs, but he is the most in shape and viral president we have seen in our lives ...
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 04:18 PM
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21. That says alot about Big Ed's insight.
I like him, but that is so far off the beaten path I don't even know what to say. He obviously doesn't know Obama.
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kjackson227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 05:46 PM
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23. It amazes me how we continue to eat our own... tsk. tsk. tsk...
Just because Ed isn't as polished as a Keith Olbermann, doesn't mean he's DUMB. Armani suits don't make a man, so stop judging a book by its cover. The man can't be too stupid when he has progressed from radio to television in a year, has the president's ear to a certain extent, and he's also a savvy businessman. Some of us should be so stupid.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 05:50 PM
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24. +1000, people turn on good dems very easy here.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 07:26 PM
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30. Ed has been a big Union supporter and HCR supporter, also.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 05:54 PM
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25. Big Ed is a dumb ass - I wouldn't be surprised if he's off the air by 2012...
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 07:05 PM
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28. Credibility FAIL
Big Ed is making shit up, just like they do over at FOX/Limbaugh, etc...

He's been caught lying and PolitiFact called him out a couple times...

How embarrassing for a liberal host to land on PolitiFact in the "pants on fire" column.

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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 07:34 PM
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31. I don't think he'll run in 2012
His constant alienation of traditional democratic constituencies lend a lot of credibility to that theory.
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MikeW Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 08:37 PM
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33. he needs to focus on one thing and one thing only
JOBS JOBS JOBS

if he delivers to the Americans out of work ... hes in in 12.

If he pushes immigration with amnesty first ... hes toast and Im affraid so are other democrats.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 09:52 PM
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35. If President Obama wants a second term IMO he's
very well positioned to win one.

The Republicans are thrashing about like the pack of squawking fools they are, and can offer the voters very little in the way of ideas or leadership.

The strange thing may be that dark horse Pukes may be more competitive in a decidedly weak GOP primary field than they might otherwise be. It will be fascinating, in a sick, carnival freakshow sort of way, to watch during their Iowa caucus debates as Rick Perry or Haley Barbour try to demonstrate that they are more irretrievably insane than Rick Santorum and Sarah Palin.

The popcorn pre-order should be sizable for that one.
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Eric Condon Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 10:44 PM
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37. I am kind of surprised how hostile the reactions to this are
He's not saying he SHOULDN'T run, he was just musing, but since people can't deal with anything that indicates a chink in the armor, let's tear Ed limb from limb.

He'll obviously run in 2012, but I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't want to win. There's almost a sense of neurotic self-destructiveness to the way he's so brazenly alienated SO much of the coalition that put him in office. On top of that, he doesn't really seem to relish the minutiae of the presidency the way someone like Clinton did.

He'll run for a second term, because that's just what presidents do. But I just don't think he wants it anymore.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 10:45 PM
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38. Obama does not look worn out at all! What nonsense!
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 11:24 PM
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39. Ed and the other so-called LIBRUL pundits do the WINGNUTS' bidding. Who needs the Republicans
when you got Ed, Rachel and Keith constantly bashing the president and feeding fodder to the wingnuts?

Then, he turns around and wonders why the president's approval ratings are in the tank?

Yeah, I'm disappointed in many of Obama's decisions and his demeanor, but if we don't come together, we just may get Romney--or worse, Palin--in the White House in 2012.

The thought totally depresses me, but at this point, I"m with Mike Malloy: perhaps we deserve to have the Republicans control everything, since the Democrats cannot seem to stand behind their president.

We get what we deserve.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 03:09 AM
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40. Is that a bad thing?
If he doesn't run, we get a healthy primary in 2012 and get to vote for our Democrat of choice, rather than wait until 2016.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 11:13 PM
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42. Obama will still be President when Ed Schultz is no longer on the air

Ed is really a low-IQ radio host. His heart is in the right place, but his intellect is nowhere near the level of Thom Hartman, Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, etc.


He's got the IQ of a teabagger, but his politics are to the left.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 11:22 PM
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43. He's almost 49, he's supposed to look older. I don't see him looking worn out, quite to the
contrary, I think we're seeing the kind of hands on approach to dealing with the nation's problems that we wished we had under the GOP. But they preferred to make the problems, not solve them.

Speaking as someone who didn't vote for Obama in the '08 primaries, and took quite a while to warm up to him, I think he's done a very good job under very difficult circumstance. I think he deserves renomination and re-election.

Steve
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