Chris Matthews: Palin could win the GOP nomination

[WI_DEM]

Not only does Chris Matthews think Sarah Palin could run for president, but he thinks she could win the Republican nomination.

“An early knockout is the way she can win,” he said on “Morning Joe.” “The media will try to destroy her, of course, but if she goes early, wins early, I think she can win it before anyone can stop her.”

He envisioned her winning the Iowa Republican caucus, losing in New Hampshire, but winning in South Carolina, where her endorsement just helped push Nikki Haley to victory. Then it would be up to Michigan, where Palin has been pounding the pavement on her book tour.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedia/0710/Matthews_Palin_can_win_GOP_nom.html

[fugop]

1. He kills me

Love how he says the media will try to destroy her. For the love of all that's holy, it's the media that freakin' CREATED the myth of gawddamn Sarah. The media props her up constantly! She's the one who destroyed her own credibility by being unable to answer what magazines she reads.

Matthews is ridiculous.

That being said, I hope to high heaven that he's right. I would LOVE to see Sarah Palin as the nominee. The number of disgusted Republicans would skyrocket!

[WI_DEM]

3. On Morning Joe he sounds like a conservative "yes the media will attack her"

but then on his own show he'll go after her and if he appears with Rachel or Keith he'll sound like a liberal. Tweety is a chameleon.

[jenmito]

4. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde-that's him. HE destroys her the majority of the time

by saying things like she's the least curious politician he knows, she prides herself in her ignorance, and on and on.

[verges]

60. And none of that means she can''t get the nomination.

No one thought either of the Bushes could ever be a serious contender either!! We live in a very peculiar age. Anything can happen. Vigilance!

[Exilednight]

34. Think about it. He was Carter's speech writer and admitted to voting for Reagan in the '80 election

[jenmito]

2. And then the others on the panel said if that's the case, it's pretty much a slam-dunk for Obama in

2012.

[truebrit71]

5. Be careful what you wish for...Yes she is stupid, yes she appeals to the basest of voters..

..and Yes she could win...or did everyone forget the last idiot no-one thought could win and what he did to this great country?

[jenmito]

6. Not many people, certainly not ENOUGH people, want to repeat the mistake of voting for

the idiot we've had for the last 8 years.

[Arkansas Granny]

19. There were enough people to put him in office for a second term.

The thought of President Palin just chills me to the bone.

[jenmito]

22. His approval rating wasn't nearly as low as it was by the time he left office.

People seem to have learned that a stupid president is NOT what we want. The majority does not want Palin to run for president, not even all of her FANS want her to run.

[Exilednight]

36. You'd be surpriused. My godmother, who hated Bush, LOVES Sarah Palin. It scares me that .........

we are related, but facts are facts. People love her because they see her as the underdog and feel that the media just beats up on her because she is a woman with an opinion.

To be fair, she is a woman, and does have an opinion - the problem is that it's not a well informed opinion.

[jenmito]

40. That doesn't mean she wants Palin to be president...

her fans that go to her book signings and speeches love her but don't necessarily want her to run for president BECAUSE they don't want her to be "beat up" in the media and like her better as a tv host or other kind of entertainer. I've seen people being interviewed at her events saying so.

[Exilednight]

41. She wants her to be President. She sat at my kitchen table and went on and on about ........

how much she hopes Sarah would run.

[jenmito]

43. OK, well polls show many people (Repubs.) don't feel the same way, including her supporters. n/t

[Exilednight]

45. I don't put much faith in polls. Even scientific polls aren't always the reliable .....

a lot depends on the wording and who is conducting the poll.

[jenmito]

46. Well, here's one anyway, after her book tour:

"A large majority of Americans, seven in ten, say they do not want Sarah Palin to run for President. 56% of Republicans also do not want the former VP nominee to seek the office.
WOULD YOU WANT TO SEE SARAH PALIN RUN FOR PRESIDENT?
All Reps Dems Inds
Yes 21% 30% 8% 25%
No 71 56 88 65
While favorable toward her, conservatives, specifically, also do not want to see Palin run in 2012: 58% of conservatives say she should not."

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/poll_palin_011810.pdf?tag=contentMain;contentBody

[Exilednight]

48. There's a very frightening statistic in that poll ......

DOES TEA PARTY REFLECT VIEWS OF MOST AMERICANS?
(Among those who’ve heard of Tea Party)
Yes 46%
No 40%

[jenmito]

51. That was in Jan. Now a majority of Americans say no. It was taken after people started

seeing MORE of teabaggers-like Rand Paul.

[Exilednight]

54. So now the whole poll is outdated. Gotcha. n/t

[jenmito]

55. Yup. Now those who want Palin to run for president are even lower and those who

DON'T share the views of the teabaggers are higher-as shown here:

From June '10:

A new Washington Post/ABC News poll includes questions about the tea parties that have the nascent movement's popularity slipping badly. Overall, since the last poll, the percentage of Americans who hold an unfavorable view of the movement has jumped from 39 percent to 50 percent. The leading edge of that has been a collapse in support from 18-29-year-olds. In March, they had a positive, 43-38 view of the tea parties. They've swung hard to a negative view, 27-60.

One result that surprises me: a seeming tumble in tea party support from white Southerners. In March, only 30 percent had an unfavorable view of the movement. Now, it's 45 percent.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/06/poll_the_sagging_popularity_of.html

[Politicalboi]

8. I seem to remember something

LOL! But you are right. I wished she would be the nominee till I thought back to Bush II. I thought he never had a chance against Gore. And if they steal another election we would be sunk. Canada here I come.

[Yavin4]

10. Bush "won" in 2000 Because of his familiy's connections

in the state government of FLA and the SCOTUS.

He "won" again in 2004 because of 9/11.

IOW, he never won a clean, fair election on his own, which is something that Palin would have to do.

[nxylas]

17. And Reagan?

Another idiot who Democrats thought would lead to a guaranteed second term for Jimmy Carter. How do you explain him away?

[Yavin4]

20. Reagan Was Not An Idiot

He was a fierce ideologue who grew senile as he got older, but he was no idiot like Bush and Palin.

[NYC Liberal]

24. Reagan's IDEAS were idiotic, but he was a trained actor.

He knew how to deliver a speech and thus wrap his ideas in a pretty package.

Palin's ideas are also idiotic, but her speeches are unbearable. She will not find the same success.

[golfguru]

27. Do not mis-underestimate Palin

She draws big crowds for every speech. She is constantly on TeeVee.
She writes books which make her ten's of millions. She lives by
being controversial because it gains her free publicity. Her name
recognition is probably better than most other GOP candidates.

[thelordofhell]

28. Three words

Iranian Hostage Crisis

[Uzybone]

30. Reagan was a great POLITICIAN

Great at playing the part. A horrible person and one of our worst leaders ever, but he know how to play the game.

Palin is a fool on all levels. And she isn't even getting smarter with the exposure.

[Cosmocat]

39. S H E I S N O T R E A G E N ....

or even Bush II for that matter ...

Reagen had spent LITERALLY decades cutting his teeth as a politician, and as a leading voice in the party ... He was a SERIOUS candidate in 80, SERIOUS ...

Bush and Reagen were not geniuses, but they had more discipline in their pinkies than Palin has in her whole body. Both were VERY well rehearsed and had their pat answers down pat ... While very strident to the "conservative" ideology, they both campaigned as men of reason and who would work with the other side ... Reagen pitched a new day in america, Bush pitched a kindler, gentler conservatism and return to dignity in the oval office after the horror that was the Clinton administration ...

Palin has zero ability to stay message, and can't go three paragraphs without throwing red meat. She does not have a conciliatory bone in her body, and has so many stinking blind spots that she has no ability to shadow her simple mindedness without having a completely unchallanged forum ...

She also has burnt A LOT of bridges in the party ... And, any sensible campaigner, the people behind the scenes who WIN the elections won't go near her. Reagen and Bush knew they were actors for the role, and let the real horses run the show ... They were both tireless campaigners and followed the long range strategies of their advisors. Palin is all about PALIN, she is erratic and won't head advice ...

She is 1000 times more likely to blow out early than win early ...

Frankly, she is a little stronger Rudy Guiliani type, and Mathews loved him some Rudy ... But, Rudy was lazy and did not want to do the work, and his campaign was dead before it started when he decided to wait for Florida to get in the game ... That is the kind of cockimany crape Palin is likely to pull ...

Reagen was the insiders insider, Bush was the son of Poppy, they had VERY loyal supporters, a lot of them,a built in network and broad support ... Palin, again, is just some twit running around throwing bombs, and the party will not buy into her ...

The other candidates will trip overthemselves dotting to her, and try to outshout the others in making her the victim for blowing up in order to try to engender themselves with his lunatic base ...

[verges]

62. But he was able to get close enough to steal it.

And that was enough.

[verges]

61. +1

[SkyDaddy7]

No slam dunk!!

If the attitude on DU toward Obama is a forecast to how Democrats will vote or should I say won't vote then Obama might lose to even Sarah Palin.

I saw a DU poll today that said half of the DU Democrats would not vote for Obama in 2012...Obama has not done everything they want in 2yrs so screw him let another batshit crazy Republican drive us further down the road to a Corporate controlled Theocracy!

[Politicalboi]

7. Oh Chris STFU

I just love this "The media will try to destroy her" ???????? She does a good job on her own.

[Yavin4]

9. Our Media Is So Shallow

In no other industrialized democratic nation on this planet would someone like Palin ever be taken seriously for high office. They would dismiss her out of hand.

She has neither the intelligence, experience, or ability to be president of the U.S.

[HipChick]

15. +100

[zulchzulu]

11. Chris must have no RNC operatives or contacts

The RNC will do everything they can to destroy her politically if she dares to run... according to my RNC contact.

[Exilednight]

37. The RNC is just like the DNC. Some inside the RNC will do what ever they can to ..............

kill her chances at the nomination. But there are some within the RNC that will bash their own to get her to the top. It will basically pit the tea partiers and christian coalition against the military hawks.

[bigdarryl]

12. My bet is on Romney Palin is in the news all of the time just like Hillary was

and Tweety and every other pundit though she had the nomination wrapped up. Palin ain't winning shit because a lot of rethugs know she's an idiot

[jenmito]

13. I bet someone like John Thune will win-someone who's not really being talked about yet...

just like Obama in '06.

[ingac70]

14. Hardly. This IS the GOP we're talking about. n/t

[jenmito]

16. I don't mean someone lke Obama will run...

I am saying someone who's not well-known yet (just like Obama wasn't well-known yet) will be their nominee. Palin won't even run IMO because she'd have to answer questions from real reporters, and Romney is too hated by the teabaggers.

[ingac70]

29. I knew what you meant....

and that just isn't the MO of Repubs. They have never had a candidate like that. It will be the same old tired line up of weirdos, or Jeb Bush.

[Eric Condon]

58. That's just it though - she WOULDN'T have to answer questions from "real" reporters

The media would softball her the whole time because she's good for ratings. Can you IMAGINE how much the media wants a Palin presidency? Their political coverage finally be indistinguishable from their Lohan coverage, which is TPTB's ultimate goal: a populace so stupid it accepts politics as reality TV, but with some seriously vile people hiding in plain sight making policies whose effects really would be real.

We ignore Palin and the Teabaggers at our own peril. Even people who don't identify as Teabaggers, or who aren't necessarily Palin fans, still have the EXACT same mentality as these hateful, ignorant, selfish fucks.

[FrenchieCat]

18. Chris Matthews could shine my shoes.

[NICO9000]

21. 3rd party who will peel votes of the R candidate

It takes hundreds of millions to win. I still believe she simply will not have the huge $$$ behind her and she can't make it on small donations from her base. Plus, she's far too polarizing and will not be able to appeal the average voter (no matter how stupid they may or may not be).

[Exilednight]

38. There is also a good possibility that there will be a 3rd party candidate to peel votes from the D.

[Phx_Dem]

23. We wish. But our wishes aside, Tweety is an imbicile if he

truly believes that. The GOP would destroy her before they'd allow her to be their nominee.

[Arkana]

25. It's certainly within the realm of possibility, but she'd never ever win a general.

[Bluenorthwest]

26. Chris Matthews thought they could send divers to the

gusher 5,000 feet below the surface of the ocean.

[scheming daemons]

31. Only in my wildest dreams.... Palin with GOP nomination = Obama landslide win in '12

...

[kjackson227]

32. Jekyll and Hyde is right when describing Matthews...

He has way too much adulation for her which is why I don't watch his program as much anymore. I also think Keith needs to stop referencing Limpballs so much, also. Personally, I don't give a rat's *ss what these people say, think, or do.

[tanyev]

33. Oh, I think her fellow GOP hopefuls would destroy her long before the media ever got a chance.

[Hansel]

35. +1 - She hasn't got a chance

[Ikonoklast]

44. Wouldn't get past Iowa.

DOA.

[Bleacher Creature]

42. I've long believed that if the economy improves, she'll be the nominee.

If things get better early enough before 2012, I can see most of the "viable" GOP candidates dropping out and eyeing 2016. I could easily see the GOP hierarchy allow her to be the sacrificial lamb in 2012 as it would accomplish two things. First, it would be a nice bone to throw to the tea baggers. Second, when Obama trounces her in the general, the GOP power brokers would then have a good case to tell them to STFU in 2016. Although they are polar opposites on the political spectrum, she would be playing the role of Bob Dole in 1996.

[Douglas Carpenter]

47. I would say, "we can only hope". But I really wouldn't want to tempt fate.

Crazy accidents of history do happen.

[depakid]

49. Pathetic attention seekers- the both of them

Why anyone takes either Matthews or Paling seriously is beyond me. Pox on both their houses.

[KingFlorez]

50. It could very well happen

The GOP has a lot of insurgents that vote in primaries and there is nothing they can do to hold them back.

[Perky]

52. I have been saying the same thing for more than a year. Tweety is spot on!

Right to Lifers in Iowa Followed by a win in South Carolina and she freezes all fundraising making it nearly impossible for other to keep going. If the only other candidate left standing after SC is Mittens. she has a prohibitive lock on the nomination. The only way she loses the nod at that point is a gaffed of Michael Steele proportions.

[Bravo Zulu]

53. The stupid people in this country,want one of their own to lead them!

And the republicans are really stupid.

[opihimoimoi]

69. During the 1778 days....Tweety woulda rode with them Loyalists and not us Patriots...as did the

Conservatives....

Tweety woulda been at the Bastille or Versaille...defending King Louie/Antoinette

Evolution tells us of his now GRAND GLORY.....will soon be only a STORY...

How will his story be read? For the Masses or for the Masters???

How will he ride with???

Who guides the GOP???

Ya noes it ain't the Masses....misery level is way up

So...by elimination....its gatta be the TERs....those that lead/guide/rule/exploite over the rest of us...
Mass TERs

[grantcart]

56. Matthews is an idiot sometimes and this is a classic case

[saltpoint]

57. Have to ask Tweety why he thinks the Iowa caucus

would break for Palin.

I"m not seein' it.

[RagAss]

59. Slow fucking news month.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

63. Tweety is full of shit. He licks his finger and puts it in the air. Why do people waste time

listening to his bullshit?

[stevenleser]

64. If I were a Republican operative/consultant I'd want to be working for another candidate against her

In my sleep I could come up with dozens of anti-Palin talking points. So, I'm sure could anyone else. Come to think of it, I would want to be against Palin and Romney.

[Perky]

66. Most operatives of either party are in it for the money not the win

They get a cut of the ad dollars as part of their compensation.... If Palin gets in. she is going to have a truckload of money to spend.

[stevenleser]

68. I'm speaking neither of the desire to win or the money, just the 'easy' factor

I like a good fight and to make money like anyone else, but every once in a while, I like easy too. A consultant working for a Republican Presidential hopeful against Palin and Romney has a veritable treasure trove of things to work with.

[Mike Daniels]

65. Well, Levi is on his apology tour...so I see that as an indication that she plans to run

Back when Levi was "spilling" on all things Palin I said that by the time primary season rolled around there'd be a big reconciliation between Levi and the Palin's.

It wouldn't do to have the standard bearer for the "family values" party to have an unwed mother for a daughter standing on stage. So, I fully expect Levi and Bristol to be standing side by side if not engaged by the time Palin throws her hat in the ring.

[slackmaster]

67. Auto-Unrec for Palin thread that is not about Michael Palin

:nuke: