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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 11:30 AM Original message |
'Not since FDR has a president done so much to transform this country.' |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. I agree. He will be known as the The One who pulls us from the dark ages. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
2. You better do some reading on Lyndon Johnson |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Tell it to Maddow. n/t |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. You are quoting Dave Harding's blog |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I quoted Rachel Maddow. Maybe she isn't up to speed as you are? n/t |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. This is not a transformational Presidency |
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ChimpersMcSmirkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
38. Some of us voted for the things that he campaigned on. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. This is not a transformational Presidency |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:46 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. Transformational is such a subjective term to begin with. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. The OP's title is false! |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
102. Too early to say one way or the other on "transformative,"but sure as hell BETTER than RePUKES ! |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
110. I voted for him based on things the he campaigned on ..... |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 07:11 AM Response to Reply #110 |
134. Your last sentence is so false it isn't even funny. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 09:59 AM Response to Reply #110 |
140. They could use you in Freeperland. Please get on some anti-depressants. |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Who's quote is this: |
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suzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
83. And I don't see legislation proposed by a dead president who'd been taken |
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impik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #83 |
101. Yep. They also comfortably forget some of the disgusting things |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #83 |
145. I thought many of his biggest accomplishments happened |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
144. Yes, he has some catching up to do if he's going to equal |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
4. And people say he's weak! |
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JitterbugPerfume (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
8. Presidents can do their best work during second term |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Second terms have been duds since the death of FDR |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. No offense, but your advice stinks. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. If people like me worked in White House, the wars would be over and you would have single payer |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Deleted message |
IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Point to a productive second term of any President that followed FDR |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Obama is like no president we've ever had. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. In the 21st century perhaps! |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 07:12 AM Response to Reply #26 |
135. If you have that much power over the conservadems, |
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lordcommander (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Thats important |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
10. Amazing how some people automatically unrec anything positive |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Did we get single payer? No! LBJ gave single payer to seniors! |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. not yet but |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
69. We spend more per person than other nations do, HCR has increased that disparity, and we STILL wont |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 05:51 PM Response to Reply #69 |
116. I lived in the UK in the 70-80s and loved the NHS |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #116 |
148. Agreed! |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
84. We got ALOT of other things, many of which are more important than |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Medicare is single payer. I guess I can't count on you on protecting it |
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impik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #84 |
99. Furthermore |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Rachel Maddow is propaganda? n/t |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. anything can be used as propaganda |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. "people can take the words of credible people such as Rachel Maddow, and use it as propaganda." |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. So you're saying that posting this for the first time is spamming the board? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Once. How many times |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. Prosense? A Spammer? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #34 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #98 |
111. You don't like facts? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #111 |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Publicly promoting the President's policy accomplishments = propagandistic. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. not necessarily |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. "Only a small minority of it is propaganda." Where's the propaganda? |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. i'll be honest, some of it is the source |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. So if Maddow and Gibbs say the same thing, Gibb's statement is propaganda? |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. if Rachel says it, it's because she means it |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. "Gibbs says positive things about every single thing Obama does. " |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. I find news reports much more credible than government spokespersons |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. "I consider that skepticism to be a good thing. You may see it as 'negativity'." |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 08:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
127. So you don't think the media carries water for the republicans? |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 09:13 AM Response to Reply #127 |
139. the MSM carries water for the establishment |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Ok. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
18. Rachel Maddow gets it. |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
21. unrec |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
27. rec. |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
107. Rec here. It's really sad how the election of a DEMOCRATIC |
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rury (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
28. I have some T-shirts with that beautiful picture on them |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
33. Unrecommended |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Did you see |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
41. "Not since FDR has a president done so much to transform this country." is not Rachel's |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. "It is Rachel quoting someone named Taegan Goddard " Yeah, and |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. People think it is Rachel's quote which is what you want. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. No one but you thinks this is Rachel's quote. n/t |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. You specifically said you "were quoting Rachel Maddow" |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. "Rachel Maddow Compares Obama's Legislative Record to FDR " |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Obama's legislative record pales in comparison to Lyndon Johnson's |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. "The OP, unlike Rachel, makes the assertion that Obama is the greatest since FDR" |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. It's very simple. Edit your OP to reflect who authored the quote |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Or people can stop speculating and read. n/t |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #65 |
81. Stop people from speculating by saying who's quote that is. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #50 |
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impik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
104. Rachel agreed with that statement. |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. That's what I said on this thread 3 hours ago |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. but you did say it was Rachel right on this thread |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. No, I did not. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. On your reply to the thread you specifically said you were quoting Rachel |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
74. "But Taegan Goddard at CQ Politics was right today about nothing this big happening since FDR." |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. It's OK to cheer on Jindal, praise Nixon or hail Bush for his unitary leadership, but comparing |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. In case you missed it, the Left opposed Buhs's unitary Presidency |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #78 |
92. Yup. And anything positive said by a true liberal, even considered "too critical" of Obama at times |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #92 |
100. Who is the true liberal you are talking about? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 05:50 PM Response to Reply #100 |
115. Rachel Maddow. |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. What was the positive thing she said about Obama? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 06:14 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. Here |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. Thanks for posting that. I hope others here watch that video, too. |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #41 |
71. We can't expect DU to certify accuracy, that's why we're here. The regular Rachel viewer |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
44. This is Taegan Goddard's quote, not Rachel's. |
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impik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #44 |
105. And as expected, you keep trying, regardless the facts. How "progressive" of you |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. What are you talking about? This is Taegan Goddard's quote: |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
61. Absolutely and completely correct! |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. I guess Truman, Kennedy, LBJ never existed |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Obama made the largest middle class tax cut in history |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. To rank Obama above Truman, Kennedy, and LBJ is quite incredible stretch |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. To you. That's your opinion. n/t |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Without Kennedy you and I would either be dead, or wouldn't have been born! |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. If you review the original OP there were many facts provided to support the assertion |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. There is no ranking in the OP title, only an absolutist and dogmatic assertion |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #80 |
93. I don't think the title of the post supports your claims |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #70 |
85. So? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. "By running the biggest deficits in history doesn't" |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Depends on who gets the tax cuts |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 05:52 AM Response to Reply #70 |
133. And that is what you are basing this assertion on? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:44 AM Response to Reply #133 |
136. OK |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #136 |
143. "The President delivered health care reform, ending a nearly 100-year quest. " |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #143 |
146. "This reform, this modest compromised reform" |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #146 |
149. Well then when this is single payer universal health care I'll agree it is a big fucking deal |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. Here is something I think you might appreciate |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
66. the times often define the quality of the presidency, and the history is not yet writ for this one. |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. That line didn't sound all that credible when used by Bush apologists either. |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #75 |
89. the results are in on shrub. not hardly on obama. |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
67. Rachel was a breath of fresh air when she started, but she has bought into Obama, the way Fox bought |
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great white snark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
86. So now Rachel is under the bus? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Rachel and Olbermann were put under the bus two weeks ago |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #88 |
97. Wow! I am quite familiar with the book you quote |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #86 |
109. The careful reader would be aware that she was accused of buying, not being sold. |
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joe black (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #86 |
128. Since her trip to the white house well, I'm keeping an eye on her. |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
90. BINGO.....what a breath of fresh air in the OVAL OFFICE...No Bush and No Cheney to Sour things |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
95. Nice nod to Pres Obama's governance. nt |
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JitterbugPerfume (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
96. Let history be the final judge |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #96 |
117. Yes, but it doesn't take hindsight to acknowledge that he is the President who |
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JitterbugPerfume (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 06:10 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. I think history |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
119. Strange -- Maddow herself didn't agree with that assessment concerning FDR and Obama |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 06:32 PM Response to Reply #119 |
123. Here: |
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Marionette (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:49 AM Response to Reply #123 |
137. Good link |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
124. Deleted sub-thread |
Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
125. even better the 4th time! nt |
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bookfreak (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
126. We are living in glorious times. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
129. $7.3 trillion bank bailout was certainly transformational; banksters got $$$, ordinary folks little |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 09:36 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. Really Obama spent $7 trillion? |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. Yes. It was a sellout to the big banks and no accomplishment Obama should be proud of. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 09:58 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. It's |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
138. Huh? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #138 |
142. Here are a few more words: |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #142 |
147. Maybe Rachel is too young to remember the LBJ era |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
141. Don't let Brentspeak see this--he's the FDR expert. |
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