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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 08:17 AM Original message |
FDL- "They sell old Ralph Nader wine in new shiny-bloggy bottles. " |
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Raine1967 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
1. Glad to see people are finally waking up to what Hamsher has been up to. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 09:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. This is a confused criticism: on the one hand, complaining FDL pushes a Ralph Nader line; on the |
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Raine1967 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 09:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. The diary said they didn't care that she worked with Norquist. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 10:02 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. FDL didn't split the party. |
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Raine1967 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 10:35 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. I never said FDL did. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. The party is already split. It has been for decades. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 10:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Dunno: you may be right about FDL, but I think exactly the same |
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Raine1967 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 10:33 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I didn't cite any post except the one in the OP. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 11:09 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Apologies if I was unclear: I meant reference to the links in the OP |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Ralph Nader accepts right-wing support and money; there is no contradiction there. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. For decades, Nader has warned about "corporations as people" |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
48. Obama gives hundreds of billions of tax payer dollars to Wall Street |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
2. That's terrible.... |
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Raine1967 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 08:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I get the feeling that she is saying you can't be a Progressive |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
28. Other than putting out a plea to raise money to push for progressive issues... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 08:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
54. Actually, it's probably the other way around |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 08:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Nothing new in her world. |
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demhistorian (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
5. I would prefer progressives like Hamsher go away |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
30. What is a "progressive?" |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
6. What's next, Loyalty Oaths? This so reminds me of how the ADA purged the Progressives in '48 |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
7. Thanks. |
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volvoblue (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
8. I've long thought Hamsher an opportunist and not what she bills |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
11. OMG- |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 09:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. What "hint" should I be getting? |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
15. Bill Halter is not Ralph Nader |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
19. She's a bizarro teabagger. n/t |
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Raine1967 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. She really doesn't seem that different. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I agree. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. What makes her a teabagger? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I called her a "bizarro teabagger," meaning just like a teabagger but on the opposite side. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I don't think you understand what activists do. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. So you support teabaggers and Jane Hamsher because you consider them "activists"? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I support Jane on many of her inititiaves because they align with my |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. So you support Jane trying to tear apart the Dem. party? n/t |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I don't believe that she is tearing apart the Democratic Party. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. No-the DLC is part of the Dem. "big tent." Jane would rather a Repub. win than a Dem. who's not |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 09:04 PM Response to Reply #41 |
55. That's crap. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. jen, the Party is perfectly willing to do this itself. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. No, it isn't. Purity advocates like FDL are. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. FDL and Hamsher haven't kicked anyone out of their coalition. She hasn't the power. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Missing the forest for the trees, Steven. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 10:03 PM Response to Reply #37 |
59. I have great sympathy for the tea-baggers |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
23. I haven't trusted Hamsher since an NPR interview of the Texas teabagger lady. |
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great white snark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Same with me. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. A teabagger claimed that, did she? Teabaggers also claim that Obama |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Nope, not going to engage you. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. John Podesta & Wes Clark partner with Norquist in this organization... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. Perhaps you could prove your points. |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. Self delete. Wrong Spot. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 05:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. It was the perfect spot to prove your point. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 09:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
58. Agreed |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
26. bless Jane's heart |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
27. Unfortunately, it's *new* Ralph nader wine. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
42. Who? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
43. Why hamshire is often the spokesperson for the "left" on places like MSNBC, |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
47. Stupid OP |
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PopSixSquish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
53. Burning the Village in Order to Save it Rarely Works |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
56. delete |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
57. There seem to be some serious Axis II issues over at FDL. |
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