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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:13 PM
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"...so I know whose ass to kick"
Maybe start with your own Mr. President?

14 months is plenty of time to review safeguards and backup systems for deep water drilling.

And especially in light of this:

Obama to Open Offshore Areas to Oil Drilling for First Time
By JOHN M. BRODER
Published: March 30, 2010

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is proposing to open vast expanses of water along the Atlantic coastline, the eastern Gulf of Mexico and the north coast of Alaska to oil and natural gas drilling, much of it for the first time, officials said Tuesday.



~SNIP~

The Obama administration’s plan adopts some drilling proposals floated by President George W. Bush near the end of his tenure, including opening much of the Atlantic and Arctic Coasts. Those proposals were challenged in court on environmental grounds and set aside by President Obama shortly after he took office.


MORE:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/31/science/earth/31energy.html


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:15 PM
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1. Are you suggesting this caused the spill and the government should
be held criminally liable for damages?

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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:20 PM
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2. I am suggesting that...
Edited on Tue Jun-08-10 11:21 PM by SHRED
...safeguards were not looked into throughly enough before the "political" move of opening up the vast areas of the Outer Continental Shelf happened.

That is unforgivable politics because it endangers our coastlines and ultimately us.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:21 PM
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3. What does that have to do with the President's comment? n/t
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:30 PM
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5. In other words
Edited on Tue Jun-08-10 11:31 PM by SHRED
Why is the President looking to kick anyone's ass when it is his administration that opened up the Outer Continental Shelf?
A thorough review of current practices did not take place apparently prior to his approval.
He chose to ignore the environmental scientists and push through the opening of vast areas for drilling; then when the shit hits the fan he is going to kick ass?



I am sorry.
How can he have it both ways now?

Don't get me wrong...I think BP officials need to do prison time or worse but our own government is culpable also.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:34 PM
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6. The policy he announced has nothing to do with the BP disaster. n/t
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:40 PM
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7. I'll try again

Did he or did he not approve more deep water drilling?
If so then what made him think it was safe?

Although it was prior to the BP disaster are you saying that spill clean-up technology and deep water accident technology was advanced enough for Obama to approve this safely?
He didn't know better? If not then why?

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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:09 AM
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9. No, he's suggesting that safefguards be put into place *before* new work begins
is that something you are against? Safeguards and proper evaluation?
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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:18 AM
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12. Just saw this is an old story. I assume that this work is all on hold right?
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:29 PM
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4. Do you know why there are none off Florida's coast?
Did you notice that?

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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:14 AM
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10. Deleted. I see this is an older article. Is this on hold for now?
Edited on Wed Jun-09-10 12:17 AM by Go2Peace
If so I get the point, but also a correction appears to have been made. I just hope they do a proper review and require serious regulation and safeguards before political pressure pushes them to be opened again.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:25 AM
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14. I, too, hope these are properly reviewed and we see more serious regulations and safeguards.
Let's also remember that states can vote yea or nay in these matters.

No drilling of California's Coasts, for example.

And this letter from Ken Salazar to his staff, recent but not brand new:


Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:18 PM

Dear Team,

The Minerals Management Service has existed by virtue of Secretarial Order since 1982. During nearly 30 years, MMS has managed the development of our Outer Continental Shelf resources and collected revenue for the American people in excess of $200 billion.

The 1700 employees of MMS are good people and public servants, with the few well-publicized exceptions who have brought dishonor to the Department and to MMS. As I reorganize the MMS, you have nothing to fear about your job if you have been working hard and comporting yourself with the standards I expect of all employees of the Department. I am certain the critical functions of energy production and revenue collection will be as essential in the future as they are today.

The Secretarial Order I have signed today will establish the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, the Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement, and the Office of Natural Resources Revenue as follows:

· Bureau of Ocean Energy Management: A new bureau under the supervision of the Assistant Secretary for Land and Minerals Management that will be responsible for the sustainable development of the Outer Continental Shelf’s conventional and renewable energy resources, including resource evaluation, planning, and other activities related to leasing.

· Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement: A new bureau under the supervision of the Assistant Secretary for Land and Minerals Management that will be responsible for ensuring comprehensive oversight, safety, and environmental protection in all offshore energy activities.

· Office of Natural Resources Revenue: A new office under the supervision of the Assistant Secretary for Policy, Management, and Budget, that will be responsible for the royalty and revenue management function including the collection and distribution of revenue, auditing and compliance, and asset management.

Under the Secretarial Order I have signed, I am directing a schedule for implementation to be delivered to me within 30 days. Assistant Secretary of Land and Minerals Wilma Lewis, Assistant Secretary for Policy, Management, and Budget Rhea Suh and Senior Advisor Chris Henderson will oversee the restructuring.

Undertaking major organizational changes is never easy. I am confident that we will move through this process together and will emerge from this reorganization strong and well-positioned to meet the needs of the American people we serve.

We understand that many questions remain as to how this restructuring should be implemented and we intend to undergo a thoughtful process to resolve those questions with your input. We have been reviewing the emails many of you have sent in and hope others will share their thoughts and ideas in the days and weeks ahead. In the coming weeks, I will visit MMS offices in New Orleans, Denver, and Herndon to explain the reorganization and hear from you.

Please note that unless you hear otherwise directly from a supervisor, each and every one of you should continue to fulfill your existing role and responsibilities.

The goal of this restructuring is to give you – the public servants of MMS –more tools, more resources, and an organizational structure that fits the missions that you are being asked to carry out.

Together, we will continue to work tirelessly to ensure the American people are getting a fair return from their resources and that the safety of workers and the environment are protected.

Thank you,

Ken Salazar


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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:01 AM
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8. Obama can certainly be blamed to some degree
for planning to expand drilling without adequate review of the relevant regulations. I doubt that such a review could have prevented the BP spill, but you never know.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:18 AM
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11. certainly PLENTY of blame to go around. they know they have some to accept and correct, even though
it was the Dubya Mess House that put these drillings into action, once he was sworn in, the pressing problems of the US became his.
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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:23 AM
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13. All I can say after seeing this is thank goodness this has been put in review
Imagine all those deep water wells in those areas, especially the artic, without proper review or safeguards? That is where we were heading before the gulf blowout.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:05 AM
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16. Maybe the worst timing ever of an announcement:
"Obama to Open Offshore Areas to Oil Drilling for First Time"

Big talk of kicking ass, but no actual kicking ass. Talk is cheap.
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