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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 12:47 PM
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If the lobbyists and corporations keep controlling the government, we are fucked!
There is nothing we can do unless that is fixed. And the chances of congress taking money away from themselves is ZERO!

Shit, even with all the work we did for Obama to get him elected, businesses still control the government.

Everything we try to implement is so watered down that is really is not change at all.

I am not giving up, but something major has to change to make this country better.

Face it, most people are honestly to uninformed to vote. They listen to their preacher or their favorite radio host for what is good and what is bad and don't spend 15 minutes in deep thought on any topic.

If we ever needed a clean energy policy, not is the best time ever! But after the corporations start running these "call your senator" ads on the TeeVee and after Limbaugh tells his clones that clean energy is bad then the whole "clean energy" change will end up being nothing.

And real progressives cannot really get elected in this country.

Greed rules this country!!!










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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 01:01 PM
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1. Agreed....
I never though I'd feel in some ways worse than I did with Bush in charge. Not because I necessarily blame Obama, but I blame the systemic issues you mention.

The fact is that at least with Bush and the republicans in charge I had hope that things could get better and that the pendulum would swing the other way.

But now I realize that with a dem in the white house, dem control of the Senate and Congress, that all we've been able to get is watered down bits and pieces of moderately centrist legislation. The realization that essentially this is as good as it is going to get is depressing as hell to me.

I blame the corporations, I blame the media, I blame the lazy, uninformed electorate, and yes I blame the Dems, many if not most of whom are content to pocket the same money as the repubs and hope to coast to office on "The republicans would be worse."
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disillusioned73 Donating Member (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 02:27 PM
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7. x 1000

this is why my name is disillusioned... sigh :(
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 02:03 PM
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2. America has not hit bottom yet.
Until it does, not much will change.

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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 03:21 PM
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13. That is based on the assumption that.....
What we are dealing with is an informed, semi-intelligent American public who when they hit bottom will see the true causes of their collapse and react against it and work towards a solution.

We are fairly near bottom and people are still being led further into the economic slaughterhouse and are still no wiser as to either the cause or solution to their problems.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 02:21 PM
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3. Nothing really matters until campaign finance laws are reformed. But how?
Who's going to give up their own gravy train?
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 02:26 PM
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6. And corporate personhood must be repealed!
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 02:22 PM
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4. Obama should just ignore the Republicans and run against corporate influence
Of course, first he'd have to remove it from his own party. But, still, when he looks at things, corporate misdeeds are what drag him and the country down repeatedly. I'm sure he sees this.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 02:26 PM
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5. He seems to be just fine with the corporate influence to me.
I'm not sure why he would change anything.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 02:39 PM
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8. Must be why they love him so
:dunce:
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 03:09 PM
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12. The proof is in the campaign dollars. The rest is all them "working the ref."
It works, too.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 02:41 PM
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9. Isn't it comforting to know that BP can buy our next election?
Cheney 2012!
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 02:59 PM
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11. what do you mean our next election?
oil and military interests have bought every previous election, why stop now?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 03:42 PM
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14. "We The People" could compete prior to the questionable SCOTUS
ruling.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 02:58 PM
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10. yes, we are fucked.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 03:43 PM
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15. Corps have been controlling Congress since they came into existence.
Think anything was different 100 or so years ago? I think it was worse. Corruption has always existed, it ebbs and flows but it is always there. As far as big oil goes research the Teapot Dome Scandal. I wish I could say there was a better time...there wasn't. Now that does not mean we should not try at all, especially with voting. We have some good people in Congress.
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