Republicans Losing Hispanic Voters in Big Numbers

[babylonsister]

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/05/26/republicans_losing_hispanic_voters_in_big_numbers.html

May 26, 2010

Republicans Losing Hispanic Voters in Big Numbers


"For the Republican Party, politically, there's good news and bad news in our new NBC/MSNBC/Telemundo poll on the subject of immigration. Let's start with the good news: The Arizona anti-illegal immigration law, passed by a GOP-led legislature and signed by a GOP governor, has been a short-term political winner. The poll shows that 61% of the public supports the law, and a Republican congressional candidate who backs the law beats a Democratic candidate who opposes it, 40%-26%. But here's the bad news: Latinos, once a semi-swing group of voters, now have swung overwhelmingly for President Obama and the Democratic Party, and younger Hispanics are moving to the Democrats in even greater numbers."

[Happyhippychick]

1. That's huge. Hispanics are numerous enough to swing an election.

[calimary]

13. No KIDDING!!! There it is in its formative stages!

The Longterm Democratic Majority!

I loved what I heard from - God, was it that schmuck chuck todd on MSNBC (whose motivations and impartiality are deeply suspect)? I heard it yesterday. He, or somebody, noted what happened here in California - where since the 30's, I think it was, the presidential elections have routinely gone to republi-CONS. Well, then we had this little anti-immigrant thing called Proposition 187 out here in 1994 when pete wilson was running for reelection as governor. The bad guys, wilson and the 187ers won the battle, alright. But they lost the war. chuck todd or whoever it was pointed that out, saying that even though pete wilson got reelected, that was the tipping point that turned California blue. No republi-CON has carried California since then! And chuck todd or whoever it was said - "Texas, that's your future."

:fistbump:

[NJmaverick]

2. Who could have seen this coming?

who would have thought a few anti-Hispanic bills and laws would turn them off and away from the GOP?

[The Backlash Cometh]

5. Just about anyone could have predicted it, who could notice how

self-segregating these groups are becoming.

[annabanana]

16. ah..hahahahahaha.. The perpetual surprise of these people astonished

me. "No one could have guessed" is there response to every twist and turn no matter how clearly heralded.

[CanonRay]

3. 20% of the public are RW nut jobs

and the other 41% don't know what's in the bill or what it means to someone with dark skin walking down the street.

[The Backlash Cometh]

4. No one saw it coming, who could have predicted it?

No one told us...

[ingac70]

6. Good.

Hopefully this will carry on and when I'm an old lady I'll never have to see Repukes controlling the House or Senate in my waning years.

[TheKentuckian]

7. That should be kept close to the mind and heart as legislation is drafted

DO NOT OVER COMPROMISE WITH THE PUKES AND PUT US ON SLIPPERY FOOTING WITH THIS DEMOGRAPHIC.

If some white folks have to be pissed enough for a short term backlash then so be it. If we can permanently win this demographic it will be worth some temporary electoral set back.

[political_Dem]

8. The GOP cannot pretend to be a "Big Tent" when they truly aren't.

Folks are starting to see the light. Why support a political platform which actively works against your best interests?

It's almost suicidal.

The GOP's treatment of Steele should be a big clue. Steele's enabling of the racism by the Republicans should be a gigantic second clue.

[Robbins]

9. Hispanics

They can help Reid and Bennent survive In The Senate,and give Mccain a tougher race In Arizona.While If he wins the primary he would
probally win it could be by a closer margain.Come 2012 It makes keeping Nevada,New Mexico,and Colorado as Obama states easyier plus
It puts Arizona In Play.It doesn't gurante Obama would win but with Mccain off the Ballet It makes it a battleground state.And
Republicans may also get hurt In Florida.Cuban Americas have helped Republicans here but younger Cubans went for Obama In 2008 and
helps keep Florida for 2012.

[nichomachus]

10. Which is why Arizona Republicans have declared all-out war against Hispanics

http://www.gregpalast.com/behind-the-arizona-immigration-lawgop-game-to-swipe-the-november-election/

By Greg Palast

Don't be fooled. The way the media plays the story, it was a wave of racist, anti-immigrant hysteria that moved Arizona Republicans to pass a sick little law, signed last week, requiring every person in the state to carry papers proving they are US citizens. I don't buy it. Anti-Hispanic hysteria has always been as much a part of Arizona as the Saguaro cactus and excessive air-conditioning.

What moved GOP Governor Jan Brewer to sign the Soviet-style show-me-your-papers law is the exploding number of legal Hispanics, US citizens all, who are daring to vote -- and daring to vote Democratic by more than two-to-one. Unless this demographic locomotive is halted, Arizona Republicans know their party will soon be electoral toast. Or, if you like, tortillas.

In 2008, working for Rolling Stone with civil rights attorney Bobby Kennedy, our team flew to Arizona to investigate what smelled like an electoral pogrom against Chicano voters ... directed by one Jan Brewer.

Brewer, then Secretary of State, had organized a racially loaded purge of the voter rolls that would have made Katherine Harris blush. Beginning after the 2004 election, under Brewer's command, no less than 100,000 voters, overwhelmingly Hispanics, were blocked from registering to vote. In 2005, the first year of the Great Brown-Out, one in three Phoenix residents found their registration applications rejected.

[old mark]

11. How could this be true? I guess they will have to start recruiting gays to make up the numbers....n

[asphalt.jungle]

14. gays went 50% for mccain so they have a foothold

and they can try and build on that. but the numbers won't be there for them like it would be with hispanics. if they turn hispanics into another 90% democratic like blacks then they are toast.

[old mark]

17. A am sure their idiot racism is just getting started - they are showing their real face...nt

[nsd]

19. Obama took 70% of the LGBT vote

according to CNN's exit poll.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#val=USP00p3

[Cha]

12. Just as well..republicons weren't good

for Hispanics anyway..or anyone for that matter.

[totodeinhere]

15. The problem is, as the article states, it is a a short-term political winner for the GOP.

Yes, Hispanics are leaving the GOP in droves. But there is sufficient support for the Arizona law among other groups to nevertheless make it a political winner for the GOP for the time being. And lets face it, we can't afford to have the GOP win politically, even if it's in the short term. In the short term they can do a lot of damage. In the long run as Hispanic voters become more numerous, it will backfire on the GOP, but by then they very well may have destroyed the country.

[Arugula Latte]

18. ...

[besdayz]

20. s

they might win midterms and congressional elections here and there but they pissed away any shot of the presidency for a generation.....

[MikeW]

23. they don't need the presidency

all they need is to regain control of the Senate or the house.

They can then block every p. of legislation they dont like the Pres. proposes.

[stevenleser]

21. Between this anti-undocumented immigrants position and their fight and statements against Sotomayor

they are toast. Latinos are not going to forget this.

[MikeW]

22. Ive watched this issue closely over the years

There's too many people here on DU that think its a cut and dry issue for voters.

And there are FAR FAR too many DU'ers that think voters are for amnesty.

I can tell you this ... any liberal democratic candidate that tosses around the "A" (Amnesty) word

too loosely is toast. The American people are NOT for it despite what a LOT OF seriously delusional people at DU think (and by the way DU IS NOT a cross section of society ... its the extreme liberal portion).

No one addresses this issue:
WHY is it fair for Mexicans to jump ahead of everyone else essentially GETTING PREFERENTIAL treatment over
others that have gone through the process.

Anyone who says the system is broken ... doesn't know or understand the system at all and is just spewing talking points because they have an agenda.

Every country in the world has immigration quotas: every year XXX of this type of worker from
XXX country are allowed in.


Mexico needs to take care of their own Calderon has NO IMPETUS to stop illegal immigration as Mexico's making money off it.

[boppers]

24. Why? Because Mexicans are Americans, and much of the US was once part of Mexico.

They have more of a right to be here than, oh, immigrants from the UK or Germany. Their blood was part of this land long before Columbus was born.

[MikeW]

25. I dont think you'll find many voting Americans that support your opinion

[boppers]

27. You have some insight on voters in Brazil? Honduras?

Hint: look at a map. The Americas has two parts, North America and South America.

If you meant US citizens, it depends on the exact questions you ask.

Check this out:
http://pollingreport.com/immigration.htm

One question from that data set:
"Do you favor or oppose providing a legal way for illegal immigrants already in the United States to become U.S. citizens?"
Favor: 59% Oppose: 39% Unsure: 2%

The word "Amnesty" is unpopular politically, but people overwhelmingly support a path to citizenship for resident aliens.

[MikeW]

28. yes and other polls show they favor them leaving and getting in line

like everyone else.

[depakid]

26. Hispanics are wisely listening to the same advice offered up by former congressman JC Watts' father

"A black man voting for the Republicans makes about as much sense as a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders."