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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 12:11 PM
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WH: Deepwater BP Oil Spill
Deepwater BP Oil Spill

Joint Information Center
At the beginning of the event, the Coast Guard elevated the response and established a Regional Command Center and Joint Information Center in Robert, La., inviting all partners in the response to join. Get the latest updates from the partners on the ground in the Gulf Coast: http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com


Excellent information.





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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 12:19 PM
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1. And you can view the oil geyser here, live (LINK)
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 12:32 PM
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2. I've seen that site 10 times
And it is as about useless as can be.

No details. Just a few facts and not much else.

It is owned by BP. If BP doesn't want something there it doesn't go in.

It doesn't have "everything you want", well, maybe it does have all you want, but that doesn't cut it for me.

Besides, it is awful that the white house lets BP dictate the "administration wide response" is. BP is actually telling us, through the BP website, what the Obama administration is doing..!!!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 12:33 PM
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3. "It is owned by BP. "
Nonsense.

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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 12:45 PM
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4. Check out the Pier systems who operate it
Who do you think is paying the bill?

Check first the information source and see there is no ownership described.

Do some research, son.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 12:54 PM
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5. More fact-free nonsense
"Who do you think is paying the bill?"

I hope BP.


About O'Brien's Response Management
O'Brien's Response Management (O'Brien'sRM) was formed in 2008, with the integration of three world-class providers of emergency preparedness, response management and compliance services; The O'BRIEN'S Group, O'Brien Oil Pollution Services (OOPS), and Response Management Associates (RMA). The name O'Brien's has quickly become synonymous with unmatched expertise and experience in the fields of environmental compliance, emergency preparedness (e.g. plans, training and exercises), incident response management, throughout the maritime, petrochemical and energy industries, as well as local, state and federal agencies with responsibilities for emergency preparedness and disaster response.
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Company founder Jim O'Brien fought his first oil spill in 1969 as an officer with the United States Coast Guard. In 1983 he retired to form his own company, O'Brien's Oil Pollution Service, known as "OOPS Inc.", in Slidell, Louisiana.<1> O'Brien soon gained fame in the 1980s as the "Red Adair of oil spill cleanup".<1> O'Brien also helped manage the Exxon Valdez oil spill of 1989. Following that event the United States enacted the Oil Pollution Act of 1990, requiring ships to carry sufficient insurance and hire a management company to handle any oil spill.

The company was bought by Seacor Holdings Inc. in 1997 and later renamed the O'Brien's Group, with O'Brien remaining as President. In 2004, the company helped clean 265,000 gallons of oil that spilled into the Delaware River from the Athos I.<1><2> It oversaw recovery for the Murphy Oil Spill in Chalmette, Louisiana following Hurricane Katrina.<3> In July 2007, the company oversaw remediation efforts when refineries near Coffeyville, Kansas spilled 71,400 gallons of oil into the Verdigris River during a flood.<4> The company was also responsible for managing clean-up efforts after the Cosco Busan spilled 58,000 gallons of bunker oil into the San Francisco Bay on November 7, 2007.<1> It deployed approximately 1,500 workers to clean up that spill.<1>

As of 2007, it represents approximately 400 shipping companies, 5,000 ships, and 200 oil and gas companies, and has worked on over 400 spills in the past three years.<1>

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"Do some research, son."

Oh, in addition to not being male, I'm not your damn son.


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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 01:00 PM
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6. Great
An oil company insider who also managed the Exxon Valdez is running the information show that you so proudly hail?

Talk about being cozy. Didn't Obama complain about that? And yet, there it is.

Nice research. Thanks. Shame I had to prod you to do so. But ya done good.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 01:05 PM
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7. "An oil company insider who also managed the Exxon Valdez"
Do you always make up your own fact?

He went from the Coast Guard to oil spill clean up and he's an oil company insider?

Ridiculous.

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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 01:19 PM
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8. I rest my case.
Thanks. You are a real sport.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:55 PM
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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:23 PM
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9. It *was* owned by BP. But the longer it takes the more becomes "owned" by our government
I keep seeing this "talking point" that it can't be counted against the government. That is just bullshit partisan politics. What the hell do we have government for? To protect us and our interests and to deal with situations like this.

Our Government did not do the drilling or make the mistakes, errors, whatever, but they did sign the damn release and it is their fucking responsiblility, as fucking GOVERNMENT, to be *all* over this and get the disaster under control. And then, it is *their* responsiblity to make protections so it never happens again.

If Government can't even offer us that then maybe I might as well sign on with the Republicans, because Government has very little use or value.

You "Democrats" who keep excusing you are being *part* of the problem that is destroying Democracy. At least with this matter. Cut out the partisanship and get back to fandamentals. This is part of what we vote and pay government for. A VERY important part.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:30 PM
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11. "You Democrats"? Our government has done a good
job responding to this tragic mess...no matter how many cheap shots are thrown around.
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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:32 PM
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12. I say "you Democrats" as in the partisan apologists in MY fucking party
Edited on Sat May-22-10 04:37 PM by Go2Peace
I am not saying that the President has done the worst job on this, I will make that judgement when all the facts come out, but every damned human, Democrat or not, has a right and fundamentally should expect the administration to make this their freaking responsability. That is what we have government for.
This is not a matter of corporate vs government sphere. Once this became and environmental CATASTROPHY it BECAME OWNED BY GOVERNMENT. Because that is what we have government for. To take care of matters like this.

It's libertarians and Republicans that usually espouse this kind of ideology. This is one of the appropriate and important tasks that democracies give government. They should be judged on it regardless of the difficulty of the issue. Otherwise there is indeed no reason for government.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:51 PM
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 07:17 PM
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18. Our government is acting responsibly.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 01:51 AM
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19. Our government did NOT act responsibly. If they had,
Edited on Sun May-23-10 01:54 AM by sabrina 1
this disaster would not have happened. It was a preventable disaster. If the whistle-blowers had not been ignored, if exemptions had been given to a Corp. with a record that probably should have put them out of business even before this latest tragedy, there would have been no disaster.

If the U.S. government had not ceded its authority to Big Oil, a plan would have been in place to deal with a tragedy like this. If BP can hire experts so can the U.S. government. The sad thing is that the only person so far who seems to have tried to prepare for a disaster like this was a MOVIE STAR!

Several administrations share the blame for not having a back-up plan considering BP's abominable safety and human rights rights record.

The Obama administration gets the blame for issuing permits to this company, for expemting them from regulatory oversight especially considering their record. And Obama should be apologizing especially to the environmentalists he basically thumbed his nose at, when he lifted the ban on Offshore drilling and implied that environmentalists and the 'left' were living in the past, that with today's technology, oil rigs were completely safe!! Who was advising him? I could give you three guesses, but I think one should be enough.

Please stop trying to exonerate this government going back several administrations for handing over the responsibility of the safety of this country and its citizens, to Big Oil without even having a back-up plan to protect them from a disaster like this.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 02:57 PM
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20. The Obama Admin is acting very responsibly.. cleaning
up messes.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 04:42 PM
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21. When they lifted a 30 year ban on offshore drilling
they went even further than previous administrations in becoming part of the mess. It was a stupid, irresponsible decision that there is no way to defend, try as I'm sure you will. Why anyone would now be worried about politics or any particular politician, is just beyond me.

There are 11 dead Americans as a result of this tragedy so far, bringing BP's total criminally negligent death toll of American workers to 26 in five years. And the potential damage to this country from this tragedy is completely unknown at this point but the damage has already begun. Quite frankly there are some things that are beyond politics or any particular politician.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 04:48 PM
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22. And, I for one am glad they're on this tragic
spill that BP left us with.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:58 PM
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13. "but they did sign the damn release and it is their fucking responsiblility"
Republicans agree.

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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:12 PM
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14. It is *both*.
Edited on Sat May-22-10 05:18 PM by Go2Peace
I am not absolving BP, but I think you know that. But essentially BP failed and it became the government's responsability to fix it or make it get fixed.

Of course Republicans agree. The want to drown goverment in a bathtub.

PS. Man you are an artisan Prosense at picking a slice and distorting it's meaning. Have could make a lot of money doing that (if you are not already). The Republicans are always looking for people with those kind of skills. :rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 06:00 PM
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:29 PM
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10. Thanks! Rec~
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