Heads up! David Cameron to become PM with Lib Dem coalition

[IndianaGreen]

I am watching the live BBC feed. Talks with Labour have broken down. Many in Labour rejected the idea of a minority coalition government involving Labour, Lib Dem, and a handful of minor parties.

A Tory government will support Obama's wars, and will oppose further UK integration with EU.

[BeyondGeography]

1. "Obama's wars"

Get lost.

[thereismore]

3. Good catch. nt

[IndianaGreen]

4. Obama owns Afghanistan and Pakistan

not to mention Yemen, Somalia, Philippines. Obama believes in Bush's "the whole world is a battlefield."

Have you been taking a nap for the past 17 months?

[ClarkUSA]

12. Your rhetoric is nonsense: President Obama is on target to end both of Bush's wars by 2011.

Facts always trump biased and baseless claims.

[WeDidIt]

15. Didn't you know?

Irresponsibility is the only way to be a proper liberal when it comes to getting out of wars your predecessor started.

[totodeinhere]

33. Get back to me in 2011 about that. Let's see how many American service people are still...

in harms's way over there then.

[Radical Activist]

35. Obama Sticks to a Deadline in Iraq

Why so cynical? I don't like the troop increase in Afghanistan either but Obama is keeping his promises.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/28/world/middleeast/28iraq.html

While Mr. Obama has proved flexible about other campaign promises and deadlines, his plan to pull out combat forces by August and the remaining 50,000 trainers and advisers by December 2011 has been the most inviolate of policies.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

7. Agreed

[WeDidIt]

8. Yep, anybody laying the wars at Obama's feet is hyperbolic

and an absolute waste of time.

[Sebastian Doyle]

27. Obama laid Afghanistan at his own feet

By escalating the war there, and using the Bush Crime Family mythology of "Al Qaeda's gonna get us from their caves" as the excuse to do it.

You can blame Iraq on the Chimp, but not so much Afghanistan. He's made that one his own. :evilfrown:

[spiritual_gunfighter]

30. Whose wars are they?

Bush is no longer President, are they Johnson's wars? Nixon's wars? Reagan's wars? Barbara Walters' wars? As much as you dont want to admit it, Obama owns them now.

[Captain Hilts]

2. Looks like Clegg's an opportunistic tool. nt

[IndianaGreen]

5. There was no deal with Labour

and had there been a deal, there would have been elections next year. Such a flimsy coalition would have only made it past Queen's Speech and no further.

Tories promised a popular referendum on Alternative Voting.

[sharp_stick]

6. Either that or he's as sick of the

lies and shit that's been spewing from the Labour Party since Tony Blair. Labour lost the election big-time for one reason, Tony Blair and his foreign policy disasters.

Labour needs a major purge before they'll ever get the stain off.

If the Tories offer realistic election reform I'm all for the marriage, it's not like it has to be permanent. The Tories go back on their word Clegg and what's left of Labour can join up and bring the Government down in a non-confidence vote.

[ClarkUSA]

9. No, he isn't. The Guardian reports that "Labour rebels scuppers Lib Dem deal"

It's on the front-page: http://www.guardian.co.uk/

It appears that Labour deliberately ended any hopes of a Lib Dem deal:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/may/11/general-election-2010-live-blog

[WeDidIt]

11. Long term, it's what's best for Labour. n/t

[ClarkUSA]

16. Yes, Labour wants to play white knight when the new government starts their painful austerity cuts.

That'll give Dave Miliband his branding as outraged defender of the little guy against the big bad Tories, despite the fact that the Labour government was extremely irresponsible with their spending spree in the lead-up to their recession, finally amassing a national debt larger than Greece's.

Meanwhile, Clegg will be Deputy PM and watching the fighting from the sidelines.

[IndianaGreen]

20. Damn, ClarkUSA, your analysis is spot on!

First time I have seen eye to eye with you!

[Captain Hilts]

23. I wish I could believe that, but a similar strategy has Canada saddled with Harper for too long. nt

[IndianaGreen]

17. What's best for Labour, is the death of New Labour

A similar thing will be good here.

[WeDidIt]

10. Both Clegg and Labour are being pragmatic

Long term, it is better to allow the Tories to form a minority government in the short term.

Labour will sit back and let the Tories shoot themselves in the foot. Clegg will sit back until the timing is best for the Liberal Democrats to call for a vote of no confidence.

The Tories will hold a very thinned out version of power for no more than six to nine months, tops.

Long term, it's the right move for everybody except the Tories, and they're too power hungry to see the forest for the trees.

[Captain Hilts]

14. I'm stunned by the level of Tory support in England. If it weren't for Scotland...

Labour would have gotten trounced.

But the 'this coalition won't last long' is what has given Canada Harper all these years. Y E A R S.

[WeDidIt]

18. It's not so much Tory support

as it is anger at Labour over the direction Labour took.

The U.K. needs to be reminded of how horrid the Tories really are.

[IndianaGreen]

19. Cameron is not Thatcher

but Cameron has been less than candid about the public service cuts the Tories will bring about, just as Brown was.

[Captain Hilts]

22. I read the Guardian, Scotsman, and Torygraph daily. Often Indep & LT,I thought the wars and Trident

were among some of the big issues.

[Captain Hilts]

24. He's younger, prettier and more charming. nt

[VMI Dem]

13. I would only characterize Afghanistan as Obama's War.

[ClarkUSA]

21. Why? It's Bush's war that Pres. Obama is ending in 2011. n/t

[Codeine]

25. "Obama's wars"

You never let up, do you?

[jefferson_dem]

26. "Obama's wars"...

You just can't help yourself, can you?

Nonetheless, thanks for the update.

[KingFlorez]

28. Using Obama's wars sounds a lot like some Republican trying absolve Bush 43

Your posts are always very interesting, very interesting indeed.

[Robbins]

29. Oh Come On

I disagreed withs ending more troops to Afghanstain but calling It Obama's way Is nonesense.

Do you think Obama would have Invaded Afghanstain and not go after Bin Laden.

You do realize Hillary Clinton wanted even more troops sent than Obama agreed to.

Obama has set 2011 as timetable to beguins ending troops out.While It doesn't get as much coverge they
are on path to pull combat troops out of Iraq later this year and all troops by the end of 2011

Do you really think Obama would have lied to get Into Iraq?

As for drones In Pakistain you do realize those who caused the deaths on 911 are In Pakistain because
Bush,Cheney,and rumsfield let them get away?

[dflprincess]

31. And have those drones actually hit the people responsible for 9/11?

I haven't heard that Bin Laden has been killed or captured. I've also noticed that both the media and the administration have stopped talking about Al Qaeda and started talking more about the Taliban or the "Pakastani Taliban" - no doubt to try and get support for expanding the war.

The U.S. cannot afford to continue or to start any more phoney wars. The day he chose to escalate in Afghanistan and expand into Pakistan it became Obama's war as well as Bush's.

[flpoljunkie]

32. Clegg reported getting his tax threshold for lower income, no increase in estate tax threshold to tw

millions pounds and six seats in David Cameron's Cabinet. Sounds like Lib Dem Nick Clegg got a very good deal from the Tories. Also, a vote on alternative voting. Clegg wanted those who make less than 10,000 pounds exempted from paying income taxes.

Sounds like there will be 'change' in the UK.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

34. Obama's Wars

I see somebody got her fax from the RNC this morning...