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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 05:00 PM
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Gov Brown is begging Meg buy it now for an early debate, too bad he does not understand her
campaign. She will never debate or even acknowledge him.

Last week she locked out the press from all her campaign events and then has the gaul to turn around and offer her own video feeds of these events to the press(currently free of charge).

Sorry for Gov Brown he waited for too long to react and now he is locked out completely. His only hope is she loses her primary.

I think both he and Sen Boxer are in trouble.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 05:03 PM
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1. 'Meg buy it now'
:rofl:
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 05:05 PM
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2. If she refuses to debate at all, that's a problem for her, not him
Republicans aren't winning anything big in California this year, by the time November comes, all the air will be out of Whitman's overgrown campaign.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 05:07 PM
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3. All Brown has to do is paint her as a coward who is unwilling
Edited on Sat Apr-17-10 05:07 PM by MadMaddie
to debate her Democratic opponent. He also needs to keep hammering about how much money she is spending to buy the position.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 05:47 PM
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8. She forgets what happened to Martha Coakley in MA.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:59 AM
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28. We do know that Repugs have very short memories!
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 05:13 PM
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4. Who is getting and controlling all the press. The Gov has to go on the net but he doesn't seem to
get it. The GOP can not be shamed or caring. They will just not debate and run videos making fun of Gov Moonbeam.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 06:22 PM
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13. Making the GOP care or feel shame is not at all the point or goal
it is not about them. It is about the voters. Jerry Brown is the elected Attorney General of California, he's been elected Governor before. So the majority of CA voters do not share the view that he's 'Moonbeam'.
What was Meg's first elected office again? Oh, yeah.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 05:19 PM
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5. Everybody I know HATES here for the mere fact of her great wealth
and how she seems to think spending vast sums will in and of itself win her the office. She appears to have no policies and nothing to say or offer - just money to spend.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 05:45 PM
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6. Doesn't He Have To Submit A Bid Online? n/t
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 05:46 PM
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7. She'll have to come out in the open at some point, or she'll go no bid.
C'mon out, Meggie. You can't hide forever.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 06:13 PM
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9. An interesting take. Brown challenges both Republicans to a
debate during their primary, in advance of the general election, a thing I have never heard of before and you claim he waited too long? Because she's running her campaign like the roll out of a product?
I see you say 'Moonbeam' down thread. Well. Goes to show you. California has elected Jerry Brown to more than one office. No one has ever elected Meg Whitless to anything. She's never run a campaign, much less won a campaign.
I'd love to hear your examples of others who have challenged the entire primary ticket from the other party to debate.
If Meg tries to evade debates, she will be crushed. Crushed. If she debates, she will be crushed. Her cowardly campaign style will not play. She is marked for loss, huge, giant loss. Even the Republicans do not like her. Her family has a terrible reputation across the state, and the tales of her rude offspring are waiting in the wings, juicy and releasable if needed. She has no idea how far in over her head she is.
So that's my view.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 06:45 PM
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15. In prior elections I would agree but..since the SC ruling we are beginning to see a new kind of
campaign. Corporate fronted candidates with mega millions budgets.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:02 PM
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43. Well said. I agree. Brown is just getting warmed...
...up. ;)
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 06:14 PM
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10. Whitman, Fiorina, and Steroids McMahon are the poster children
for publicly financed campaigns.

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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 06:38 PM
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14. The SC ruling put that idea in the dustbin. Wait till Oct. n/t
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 10:40 AM
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26. Yup, and here in CT McMahon's millions may help her win the primary but she
is way behind Blumenthal in polling...25 to 30 points behind.
I am not surprised by Whitman's spending. We have wealthy candidates in CT...even Ned Lamont spend millions of his own money against Lieberman. The thing with Whitman is she has zero elective experience and that throws the money around to hope people won't look at that.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 06:17 PM
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11. Lot of folks out here in redneckville, ca are unimpressed with meg
And it's for the very reason I predicted a few months ago.

SHE AIN"T HOT!!!

They know Palin is a buffoon but at least they can fantasize about her.

Whitman is at least marginally smarter than Palin but she's no MILF.

Among the nicer terms I heard applied to her from my nephew and one of his idiot friends was "fugly".

They won't vote for a Dem, mind you but they will probably sit this election out. Come to think of it, I kinda think they sit a lot of elections out.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 10:32 PM
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16. I feel even more sure of Brown and Boxer victories knowing your track record
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 11:15 PM
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20. I was going to post to you and you're echo or sock puppet but your not worth it. n/t
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 10:34 PM
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17. Well, now I KNOW Brown and Boxer will win, buddy--especially considering your track record.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 10:40 PM
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18. When will the Dems learn to fight back in a timely fashion?
Edited on Sat Apr-17-10 10:42 PM by political_Dem
They've got to take these races seriously. Their lazy nature and lack of tactical planning causes us to lose in all races.

Isn't anyone in the Dem party afraid that there might be another Brown installed in office instead of someone who can do something to help the people?

And in the case of California, they're already sinking to the bottom in terms of education and services due to the Gubengrabber's management.

The folks of California can't have another Republican in office or else the state will be set back even further.

In California, the Dems cannot afford to lie down and roll over. It means life or death in this state.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 11:46 PM
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23. Correction: I meant Scott Brown (R-MA), not former Gov. Brown
when talking about "another Brown installed". :(

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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 10:44 PM
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19. Gov. Brown waited too long? Doesn't He Need To Win The Democratic Primary?
He does have a few Democratic challengers, including some challenges from the left such Peter Schurman, who is affiliated with Moveon.org. Heck, has there ever been a pre-primary debate?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 11:19 PM
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21. No crystal ball have I, CK_John, but I like the Democrats' chances in
the Golden State.

Brown is smart as a tack and very tough and wiley when he needs to be. Meg is ultra-wealthy but still a newcomer to the political scene. I think she's starting too high on the ladder and will loose her footing. Jerry's Rolodex predates her buy-it-now narcissism.

Boxer has been written off before in Senate races. She's prevailed in all those races and I'm making an early call for her re-election this very night.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:44 PM
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39. The OP doesn't know anything about Boxer's electoral history
for Pete's sake, he thought that Boxer was going to lose because she voted against Bernanke, a move that likely helped her numbers rather than hurt them!

he just doesn't know what he is talking about and gets all bent out of shape when you point that out.

:wtf:
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 05:51 PM
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40. Boxer always underpolls.
In the end of the day, the moderate suburban women see her kooky opponent and flock to her(Boxer) side.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 11:23 PM
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22. It ain't too late for shit, and nobody's in trouble.
Geeze.....

your predictions never come true. Admit it.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:35 AM
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24. poor Nut-Meg... she's sponsoring her own 'somebody love me' party and no one is coming

friendless, cashless and un-informed is no way to go through life


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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:02 AM
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27. "Nutt-Megg"--YOU NAILED IT!
That's precisely what she is. Jerry Brown knows how to campaign and he learned his mistakes from his loss to Pete Wilson in 1982. Nutt-Megg is going to blow up real good, like The Hindenberg!
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:53 PM
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31. if Nut-Meg wants to write checks to feel good about her self, so be it - JB is smarter by far

and you are right, Jerry Brown knows when & how to campaign and learned from his past experiences. Plus, he's active and well-thought, not 'well-rehearsed' and there is huge difference between the two. Palin was 'rehearsed' and that is what did her in big time.

No wonder Nut Meg is hiding from the press.

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abbeyco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 10:31 AM
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25. Brown & Boxer should host 'empty' debates
Publicize the invitations to their opponents and then have the debates televised; when they are the only participants and once the referee determines there is no debate opponent, then Brown and Boxer could use their time to articulate their agendas & platforms; the opposition would be represented by an empty podium and that would speak volumes.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:11 PM
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29. Then I will bet the farm that both Brown and Boxer win.
You are the antithesis of an accurate prognosticator.

Your track record is 0.0.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:22 PM
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30. Your reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired also, the only prediction is no debate.
Who is giving your these talking points.

Meg buy it now is 5 points ahead and Boxer is tied. That's the definition of political trouble.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:33 PM
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38. Re-read your own OP.
Are you suffering from early-onset dementia?

Have you forgotten what you just posted already?

If you are, then I apologize.

If not, you didn't even read what you posted.

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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 02:34 PM
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32. More predictions from the guy who doesn't look back on what he's predicted before?
:shrug:
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 02:41 PM
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33. Let me repeat, it's an internet forum get a grip. Do you think she will debate?
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 03:58 PM
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35. How far along is Michelle Obama, by the way?
How's Melinda Gates 2012 going?

Did that nice lady Hillary Clinton ever become the Democratic nominee?
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:31 PM
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37. Please don't give him a hard time about previous blown predictions
He wants you to take seriously the current predictions he is making.

He wants you to ignore all previous predictions --something he does himself.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:29 PM
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36. i have no idea and with all due respect, i know more about CA politics than you do
and as much as you constantly poo poo Boxer's chances, i am convinced you don't know a thing about Boxer's previous elections and how she won them.

by the way, this thing about "getting a grip". that's not what my posts are about...they are about you making grandiose predictions and all i'm doing is saying the emperor has no clothes.

you make predictions and you don't give a crap whether or not you are right. you don't even seem to care to learn anything from having done this.

i mean, you've gone on about Boxer's chances before...do you even know who she ran against in her previous elections? were they conservatives, moderates, what? what were her margins? how did she manage to win when everybody said she couldn't? do you know?

if you don't, then why should anyone listen to you.

like i said "Madlibs".
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 05:57 PM
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41. Only the next election counts. Sorry don't understand madlibs. Get a grip and have a nice day.
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 05:58 PM
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42. I have to admit I've been very concerned about "Meg". She
has commercials on ALL THE TIME. I have yet to hear ONE Jerry Brown commercial. Many, many people here don't even know he's running.

I called the CA DEM. headquarters a few weeks ago asking them what was up. (I also called them way back when the recall of Gov. Davis was going on- They told me "it will never happen." Yea - right. I called to volunteer to do whatever I could and about three weeks later some kid -about 19 -who was in charge of the volunteers called me).

When I called about the upcoming Gov. race I asked why there wasn't buzz about Jerry Brown running they said he had name recognition and didn't what to promote his campaign this early.

I agree with the poster who said the Dem. leadership (if you can call it that)in CA is very lazy and IMO clueless. Meg Whitman isn't going to be in a debate now because she doesn't have to be. If she wins the primary, which I think she will, then she'll have to debate him. We'll see what happens then. To me, this woman shouldn't be underestimated.
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