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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:30 AM Original message |
If you're against the war now, it doesn't MATTER if you didn't post against it during the campaign |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
1. What did you learn new about Afghanistan since the campaign? |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Since the campaign, we have learned.... |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. here. here. |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Thank you for posting this response to Frenchie Cat |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
42. Where is her response? Surely a "thank you" is in order. |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 07:59 AM Response to Reply #42 |
58. Pffft. You expect a response? |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. wish I could rec this response separately... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. Thanks. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
48. AGREED bvar22! I Was Against ANY More Troops Going Anywhere During |
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Soylent Brice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
49. i'm pretending that i can rec your reply. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 08:29 AM Response to Reply #21 |
66. We might have pretended otherwise a year or three ago... |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:54 AM Response to Original message |
2. Actually, the campaign rhetoric |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:04 AM Response to Original message |
3. Bush diverted money from Afghanistan |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:19 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Nobody is pretending. There was NOTHING in the campaign that equated |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:16 AM Response to Reply #6 |
20. Deleted message |
Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. I'm an opponent of the war, not of the man |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. "Would be" a disaster? |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. That is 34,000 MORE. |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:22 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I'm not shocked. Obama never explicitly promised to withdraw from Afghanistan . . . |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:29 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. So what? Obama doesn't want to pursue Bush/Cheney for war crimes so Obama is okay with whatever |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
43. Read this post |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. That's fine. Someone is against the war |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. He was very pointed in his campaign |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Maybe he said it because he believed it |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 08:00 AM Response to Reply #47 |
59. Huh? |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 08:23 AM Response to Reply #3 |
64. We've been betrayed. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:09 AM Response to Original message |
4. I applaud any one who has an anti-escalation anti-war position regarding Afghanistan whether |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:14 AM Response to Original message |
5. How difficult is this to grasp? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:21 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. There's no way that meant an LBJ-style escalation. |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:27 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Oh please. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:46 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. The goals quoted in that Obama quote are unachievable. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 04:03 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Well, what I thought he meant was the same thing he meant when he said... |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
37. That's your fault. Not his. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 08:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
65. It's easy to grasp. It's still wrong. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:48 AM Response to Original message |
12. The Democratic Party is a coalition |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:52 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Good point. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 04:04 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. It is a ridiculous argument |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 04:06 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. It is all they have |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 04:13 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Meh |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
33. "Never seen a group of people so miserable that they were getting their way in my entire life" |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 05:06 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. good point |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 05:26 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. The same people waving campaign rhetoric in your face now |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. It is also the same people who said.... |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 08:02 AM Response to Reply #12 |
60. +1 |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
23. It's the DU issue de jour, is all |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Pure Partisan Nonsense . |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. DU was not up in arms about it |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. You really do think everything on DU is about Obama and nothing but him |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
53. The outrage would be the same no matter who was president |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 08:03 AM Response to Reply #32 |
61. ...says someone who's been here since 2006 |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
46. He focused us on this by floating the escalation numbers |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
25. It's just an excuse because they have no excuse for the prez. nt |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Too true, +1 nt |
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Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
29. During the Primary wars |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
30. it's never too late to see the light |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
34. Indeed, the arguments used against anti-war people here are so ridiculous |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
38. Some people here use ANY argument to support ANY thing said by this White House. |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
41. Obviously. That is just a pep-squad harassment tactic. |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 04:40 AM Response to Reply #41 |
56. They hijacked threads during the primaries, too |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
50. Well guess no one bothered to read any of my posts at that time... |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
51. I'm not a peacenik and I don't hate Obama, |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
54. I especially appreciate this point: |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Well put...thoughtful and with great humanity |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
57. I was against the wars |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
62. Anyone who didn't see the outrage over promised escalation wasn't paying attention. n/t |
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avalonofmists (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
63. I agree with you. When posters say that, they only |
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