Pelosi: 'No Separate Vote' For Stupak...Or Anybody Else

[jefferson_dem]

:applause: for Madame Speaker!

Pelosi: 'No Separate Vote' For Stupak...Or Anybody Else
Brian Beutler | March 20, 2010, 12:09PM

House Democratic leadership has apparently told Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) to go take a hike--and they'll move forward without him, or any other anti-abortion Dems threatening to switch their votes from 'yes' to 'no.'

Just off the House floor moments ago, Pelosi told reporters there will be "no separate vote" on abortion or any other measure.

And Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), a leading pro-choice progressive, said they're moving ahead without him. "There's not going to be any deal made with Mr. Stupak...there's been no deal whatsoever. He's been told that his language is not going to be added to the legislation," she told me this morning.

Stupak has been threatening to vote against health care reform legislation for months if its abortion language isn't tightened significantly, and he's claimed repeatedly that upwards of a dozen other Democrats would join him if he doesn't get his way. That'd be enough to kill the bill.

Yesterday, though, Rep. Nick Rahall (D-WV)--a Stupak follower--told reporters that the dozen is probably down to about six. And that may not be enough to force leadership's hand.

"We think we have the votes regardless, and we're going to be moving forward," Schakowsky said. "Yes. We do think we have the votes without him."

A huge development, if true.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/pelos-no-separate-vote-for-stupak.php

[DCBob]

1. Very good news..

No deal with Stupak.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. Wow...definitely huge if true.

How I'm hoping.

:applause:

[Jennicut]

3. Well, if we don't need those votes then he can shove it.

[SoFlaJet]

4. Let's face it

this guy has just got be fucking stupid-plain and simple. The Hyde amendment covers his concerns, why can't he just understand that nothing will change, there IS no federal funding for abortion in the bill. He just likes having his face all over cable television-he reminds me of Mike Pence, good looking, but fucking stupid.

[jenmito]

5. WHEW! I went to bed last night worrying about Stupak possibly getting a deal where he'd

get a vote on his amendment. I'm SO glad it's not gonna happen!

[mzmolly]

6. I wonder when FDL will blast this news on their front page?

Great info JD! :toast:

[Ozymanithrax]

7. The Fire Dog Lake/Stupak marriage may be on the rocks.

But FDL still has the tea party to keep it warm at night.

[PopSixSquish]

8. What Madam Speaker Really Said is Probably Not Repeatable in Polite Company

Though it could be along the lines of "take your legislative agenda and shove it up your ass" (TM West Wing)



:bounce:

[WhiteTara]

9. yippee skippee!

don't like abortions? Don't have one, Bart! Oh right, you can't. What a putz. Switch parties and join the Family!

[ladywnch]

10. so what are Stupak and his minions going to do when they are

declared 'persona non grata' within their own party after HCR passes?.....join the rethugs on a repeal plan?....or just cower and hope for forgiveness?

[DCBob]

11. So how does this affect the count?? Will Stupak and his gang now vote no?

I assume Pelosi has enough votes without the Stupakers or she would have had to work a deal.

[aaaaaa5a]

12. For the first time in my life, the Dems are finally growing some b*lls! NT

[4lbs]

13. Something tells me she's quite confident she has the necessary votes, without him and his

anti-abortion allies.

[bvar22]

14. NOW that the HCR Bill is exactly what the Corporate Overlords want,

and almost everything "Democratic" has been eliminated, it WILL be passed.
And the Democratic Party will declare MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

(I wonder if Bush is still using that old banner?)

[jefferson_dem]

17. Do you even realize how silly you sound?

You mean these "Corporate Overlords"?

--> http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-03-19/business-groups-press-lawmakers-to-oppose-health-care-measure.html

Drats! Kucinich and Bernie Sanders are at it again! Taking it to the little guy - represented by the US Chamber of Commerce and fellow industry groups...

[bvar22]

19. Dennis is NOT happy with this bill,

and calls it a victory for the Corporations.
Bernie too.
I am not bound by the constraints of Party Politics, and am free to Call it Like it is.

The truth is, The Democrat Party Leadership, in submission to their Corporate Sponsors, have totally wasted a Once in a Generation Opportunity to produce REAL "Change".
Instead, they have merely added a few potted palms to the deck chair arrangement on the Titanic.

Health Insurance Corporations ARE the PROBLEM,
NOT the Solution....and THAT is what will be cemented in place once this bill passes.

The Democratic Party has insisted that America will simply have to Settle for Far LESS than the rest of the civilized World takes For Granted.
Maybe my problem is that I have traveled, and KNOW what is not just possible, but routine in civilized countries.

[jefferson_dem]

15. The latest alternative being talked about: Executive order clarifying the Hyde application.

Latest Abortion Idea -- An Executive Order?
26 minutes ago

Brian Beutler reports from Capitol Hill that Democrats are floating an idea of getting President Obama to issue an executive order on abortion upon signing the health care legislation.

We don't have many details yet, but Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) sounded supportive.

"I think it's clear enough that there no federal funding. If an executive order underscores that, satisfies some people, that's fine," Waxman said.

We've asked the White House if there is any chance this would happen. Stay tuned.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/live/countdown-to-reform-wire/#325482

[jefferson_dem]

18. DeGette, head of dem pro-choice caucus, told me she would consider exec order, pending details #hcr

http://twitter.com/jcohntnr/statuses/10782678809

[cally]

16. YESSSSSS!!!!! Who is in the pro-choice caucus?

Thank you Madame Speaker and the Pro choice caucus. Does anyone have a list of the pro-choice caucus so we can thank them individually?

[Hutzpa]

20. Damn straight

too much grand stranding.

This is what happens when we stuck our shelves with blue mess.

Thank you m'am.