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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 12:24 PM
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"Being a woman shouldn't be a pre-existing condition."
Wow. This was the part of Pelosi's press conference that really woke me, simply because I'm a 34 year-old woman, healthy, with no children yet who has not needed to test this aspect of my insurance policy.

So if I get a C-section that's a pre-existing condition?

If I suffer injuries due to spousal abuse, that can be a pre-existing condition?

And most importantly - and I did not know this before - being a woman is a pre-existing condition that translates into higher premiums than my husband???

Wow. If there's not a better reason to pass this bill, then this is it.

Pass the bill. For women.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 12:26 PM
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1. Yes it should. But, pre-existing conditions should not be reasons to deny healthcare.
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RT Atlanta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 12:27 PM
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2. K&R for my wife and daughters
Nancy's comments really bring the gravity of the situation home.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 12:28 PM
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3. Women pay more for LOTS of things - haircuts, dry cleaning,
and of course medical insurance. It's the way the good ol' boys have ALWAYS done bidness.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 12:29 PM
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4. It can depending on where you live
Minnesota does not permit differences in premiums based on gender.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 12:39 PM
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7. The vast majority of states don't have such laws.
State laws as of 10/2009:

Ban using gender as a rating factor in any insurance policy: Montana

Ban using gender to set premiums in small-group markets: California, Colorado, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New York, Oregon, Washington

Limit how much gender can influence premiums: Delaware, New Jersey, Vermont

No gender protections: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming


http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/2009/10/26/gvsb1026.htm?WT.rss_ev=a%26WT.rss_f=Women+pay+more+for+health+care%26WT.rss_a=Women+pay+more+for+health+care
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 12:31 PM
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5. You've heard about this NOW?! A yeast infection is considered a pre-existing condition.
That means every female on earth has a pre-existing condition.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 12:32 PM
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6. Too bad they don't declare stupidity a pre-existing condition.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 12:48 PM
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8. Stupak being a fine example
Doesn't the pre-existing conditions ban not start until 2014?
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 12:54 PM
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9. well, it is actually a pre-existing condition...
the point is that pre-existing conditions should not come into play in the quality of ones health care.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 01:10 PM
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10. What--having babies is a pre-existing condition?
We need help from males to do that, you know. And we're contributing to our country by producing the next generation of doctors and scientists and artists and caregivers. They should pay us.

So screw that. We are NOT a pre-existing condition. Check your prostate.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 01:38 PM
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11. it is a not meant to be inflamitory
Edited on Thu Mar-18-10 01:43 PM by tk2kewl
being male is also a pre-existing condition. my point is that there are all sorts of things that pre-exist and one's gender or any other "condition" into which one is born should be entirely beside the point.



edit for grammar
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Rage Inc. Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 04:29 PM
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12. Amen
Kicked and rec'd
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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 04:35 PM
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13. Gotta give credit to these Companies in figuring out every combination and permutation to making $$
Edited on Thu Mar-18-10 04:37 PM by denimgirly
Yes indeed, being a woman is indeed a pre-existing condition.
When you think about it Insurers are not the bad guys...they are doing what they are legally bound to do...make money by any means necessary (assuming its legal). So considering women as some kind of disease has been long accepted and profited from by the entire industry and backed by the U.S. government (composed of both men and women).

What is strange is that it took this long before government realized this....or at least got over the dangling cash from these insurance lobbyists.

C-section is a pre-existing condition....stay classy U.S. Health care system!
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