I AM ABOUT DONE WITH MR. KUCINICH (He is our Party's Ron Paul)

[Perky]

No other Congressman is holding a press conference to announce they are for or against the bill except for Stupak. What makes you so damn special that you think you command this sort of "whatever"

There is no upside to this grandstanding. He says he is going to vote no, the GOP touts it. He say he is going to vote for it and the GOP trots out his claim of UFO sighting and makes him exhibit one of the "Loony Left"

Just sit down Dennis,, you are going to wind up looking like our Party's Ron Paul.


The big question is will he have bigger stones if he flips and supports the bill or if he defies his party.

[Splinter Cell]

1. ....

"Just sit down Dennis,, you are going to wind up looking like our Party's Ron Paul."


Too late.

[winston61]

2. Dennis is the only one those sorry bastards that has the

stones to stand up and call a hill of shit a hill of shit. We should thank him for being the 0.1869% of congress that wants to do the right thing. I guess you could call having the courage of your convictions 'loony'. Think where we could be if Dennis was president instead of Obama.

[sharp_stick]

3. The stones?

I think love for camera-time is more like it.

[Perky]

5. He would be better off leading the government of Freedonia

[grantcart]

63. lol priceless although some younger DUers will miss the reference

[winston61]

73. And you sound like you'd like to live in Freedonia

[Splinter Cell]

8. Right...

In the real world, people understand that you can't get everything you want. You can bitch from the fringe but you'll never be taken seriously, which is why Kucinich snipes from his soap box.

He couldn't be elected President. He's just too far out there.

[elocs]

41. The truth is that DK is too far out there to be elected to a statewide office in Ohio.

He has risen as high in political life as he will ever go. He is the mouse that roared, he grandstands, makes noise, but actually accomplishes little of substance.

[LakeSamish706]

9. "Think where we could be if Dennis was president instead of Obama."

I guess one could only wish at this time... Bet we would be out of both Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Perky]

16. No we wouldn't

and it absurdrd to think so. He would be a one term president and anyone in the Senate who voted with such a policy would be in deep trouble their next election.


He would never get the votes to get such a thing done. And yes it does take money, Appropriations bills always have strings attached.

[LakeSamish706]

18. So says you as a Kucinich hater... But there are some of us here on DU that actually

love the guy, primarily because he has balls. Something that is lacking in many of our other Congress critters.

[Perky]

26. so you are agreeing with me?

[LakeSamish706]

28. Not to likely! n/t

[Perky]

31. You are not disputing the salient point?

That it simlpy is not tenable to bring the troops home immediately.

[LakeSamish706]

33. For all the good we are doing in either country (killing civilians) they could

and should be brought home immediately. I think if DK were president he would do everything in his power to accomplish just that.

[winston61]

72. The hell it's not-

Line the planes up on the tarmac, put the troops on them and bring them home. It's that simple. If the people in the middle east want to live in the 12th century, so what? Let them. Let the Iraqis drink their oil.

[mkultra]

36. so much for his stones

i guess they went the way of the emu

[suzie]

65. It's so frightening to even ponder where we would be if Dennis Kucinich were president.

Dealing with a Congress that would be trying to impeach him for doing whatever he pleased, without regard for the law or anyone else's opinion.

And fearing that when he didn't get his way, a President Kucinich would declare martial law.

[IndianaGreen]

4. and you prefer a man that has escalated our wars

and caused untold civilian casualties?

[Perky]

10. With Dennis as the alternative? "Ya Betcha"

[IndianaGreen]

19. At least Dennis is not a warmonger or a war criminal

Killing civilians is a war crime.

[Perky]

24. Only if it is intentional

Otherwise it is a tragic mistake

[IndianaGreen]

27. I've heard the same excuse when we drop 500 pound bomb on a village

If I were to drop a 500 pound bomb on the house next door to your house, you wouldn't survive the blast.

[mr715]

35. Probably,

But maybe if they have health care, they'd survive.

I do so home Mr. Kucinich votes for it, in case Spain drops a daisy cutter in my Washington Heights apartment.

[Ignis]

43. "Whoopsie! Sorry about that wedding!"

Smart bombs, dumb politicians.

[Moochy]

52. A Tragic and predictable but necessary and altogether expedient mistake!

Why with all those words you fucking practically forget that we are talking about raining exploding fireballs on children who are subsequently burned alive and or crushed to death!

USA USA USA!!!

[Perky]

23. oops wrong sub thread

[damonm]

44. Escalated our wars?

If that were singular, you'd be kind of right. Were you still laboring under the misapprehension that all 30,000 troops going to Afghanistan were combat units?

As to Iraq: "CRS estimates that average troop strength in Iraq will decline to 135,600 in
FY2009, 88,300 in FY2010, 42,800 in FY2011, and 4,100 in FY2012."
From http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R40682.pdf

That doesn't seem like "escalation"...

[Lord Helmet]

6. Dennis is a beautiful and unique snowflake.

[mzmolly]

11. Or just a .... flake.

;)

[Forkboy]

15. Nice to see you joining in with the shallowness.

[mzmolly]

17. "Dino" is so much

less shallow.

[mzmolly]

30. You know what?

I apologize FB. I don't want to be an ass because I disagree with someone. My joke was in poor taste.

Kucinich supporters are some of my favorite people here.

Peace

[KoKo]

7. Oh...another Bash Kucinich Post with no Backup...Hoping your

"peeps" will boost you to the DU "Greatest Page?" Why else would you have bothered.

[Moochy]

55. notice how it wont go negative?

funny that.

[Forkboy]

12. Who needs the GOP to trot anything out? You just do it for them.

You're playing the GOP cards for them. Well done! :eyes:

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[NorthCarolina]

13. Personally, I look forward to hearing what Kucinich has to say.

I find it funny that you mention "I am about done with Mr. Kucinich", as my suspicion is that you are a conservaDem who was never "with" him in the first place, and only here to slander his name now. Just to satisfy my curiosity, could you please provide a link to at least one pro-Kucinich post of yours here on DU? You know...from before the time when you were "about done" with him?

[mkultra]

38. i know exatcly what hes going to say...

ill give you teh summary

Im dennis and i take a principled stand against.
Im dennis and i get attention
Im dennis and i take a principled stand for.

[flvegan]

14. Someone on the internets is cross with Kucinich! Used all caps!

OH NOEZ!!!!

I'm sure he's just weeping at the thought.

[nemo137]

61. I think this comic is more than relevant

(Penny Arcade, featuring the always-sharp satire of one Mr. Tycho Brahe).

[jody]

20. "our Party's Ron Paul"! are you sure, Paul is one of the saner voices in the GOP on several issues.

[LakeSamish706]

22. Yep, and one of the things that I agree with Paul on is getting the hell out of these wars. n/t

[jody]

25. Agree. n/t

[ecstatic]

40. Kucinich seems to think so too

Maybe you should read a bit more about Ron Paul... I think you'll find that save for his stance on the Iraq war, he's about as right wing as it gets.

[rpannier]

62. Rush is a border-line Communist compared to Ron Paul on many issues nt

[damonm]

45. And that may just be the single scariest thing I've seen today...

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

46. It's not surprising if you're familiar with that person.

[damonm]

47. I only say that because if RP makes the GOP look sane...

:scared:

[jody]

48. I said "one of the saner voices" not "makes the GOP look sane" as you misquote in #47. n/t

[damonm]

49. Ah. Misread - my bad.

[mzmolly]

29. As I think about this, he may have changed his mind.

This would be worthy of an explanation to his supporters IMHO.

[Perky]

32. Right and in so doing validating the gadlfy image

and pissing off his devotees. Like I said... there is nod outcome from this presser.

[valerief]

34. Yeah, teevee s/b talking about Massa non-stop instead. nt

[Highway61]

37. "Our Party?"

Not "my" party, my dear. Time to go night night. Next thing you will be talking about is his "flip flopping" while you're wearing a band aid on your face. See ya. You're on the wrong website.

[IndianaGreen]

39. The OP is channeling poor Joe Stalin

Uncle Joe really, really believed in party discipline.

[Perky]

42. I wil;l put my Party Bonfides up against anyone on this site.

Been here since 2002 and I am going nowhere.

[Moochy]

54. Where are the full page scans of your Bona Fides?

[depakid]

50. I'm about done with cowardly sell out excuses for Democrats

In many respects they're worse than Republicans- and here's news:

there are millions of others just like me.

If so called "mainstream" Democrats think they can keep panderng to the corporate right- giving big money quid pro quo's to such popular groups as health insurers, the hospital lobby . PhARMA- and coming up next, the myriad Wall Street interests, while tossing out a bone here and there to ordinary Americans- and not suffer the consequences at the polls down the line they're living in a fantasy land.

[Bryn]

51. Remember Sir William Wallace? Pinocchio and Jiminy Cricket?

Dennis Kucinich is the Sir William Wallace of Democrats. Even Scottish Nobles betrayed Wallace for their own gain, bribed by English nobles. Many of our democrats accept money from corportions, insurance companies & big pharma. My own Democratic Senator Lincoln Blanche is one of the biggest corportion whores, the one of the worst. Why aren't we attacking her?

Many of our own Democrats in the Whitehouse are like Pinocchio. They keep changing stories. Broken promises. Lies. Even Obama promised the public option if I understand correctly. Dennis is there as their Jiminy Cricket. He is their conscience. He is there to remind them of their promises. He is there to stand for us The People. He doesn't want HCR Bill to pass without the public option. I do not blame him one bit.

Why would a good democrat want to get rid of him, primary him like KOS is threatening...??? We need someone like him in our party.

Of course I do want to see this HCR passed, but I would never kick Dennis like that.

[Moochy]

53. Yawn

He's through with you Dennis, did you hear that? Perky is DONE! take that!

[Perky]

56. Yeah that't show him haha.

[Clio the Leo]

57. I want him to SHOUT from the Capitol Dome that he's voting "YES!! YES!!! YES!!!"

.... shout it like he was trying out for an Herbal Essences commercial!!

And I want all three cable networks and all three broadcast networks to carry it LIVE!!!

I want EVERYONE on board with this bill .... yes, even Jane Hamsher.

I could give a flip about what the GOP has to say on the matter.

[ShortnFiery]

58. Enjoy it because this will be the last reason to celebrate.

Our party is going to get TRASHED in the mid-terms.

Was it worth it? I DON'T THINK SO. :(

[Clio the Leo]

60. Because?

Why are we going to be trashed?

[ShortnFiery]

64. President Obama has used us up. He c ampaigned on the PO then abandoned us

with "closed door" deals with the Insurance Cartel and Big Pharma.

To quote the famous social scientists, Great White, "Once Bitten, Twice Shy."

You can continue to HOPE, I'm cutting my losses.

[Clio the Leo]

66. Did Mitch McConnell type that out for you?

Did you copy and paste? Did he just give you a rough outline?

How did that work?

[ShortnFiery]

67. Oh stop. If you ever look deeply at the fall out from all the decisions this Administration

has made ... and TRULY EMBRACED THE DAMAGE, then it's going to be a long depression you must face before you find your way up to normal. Oh, better yet, stay in this "special place" of willful delusion. :(

[NorthCarolina]

59. It;s funny that here on DU that someone like DK is vilified, yet someone like Nelson gets a pass.

:wtf:

Oh wait...I almost forgot, Nelson is a ConservaDem so no need to serial post attacks against him since he doesn't spout populist speak.

[akbacchus_BC]

68. Kuch in my point of view is an asshole, the Health Reform Bill is better

than ever and he is opposing it, why? He should give his up and see how it feels to be without health care, the asshole with a goodlooking wife! What has he done for Americans except being a clown with his opposing this Bill. It is a fucking start. President Clinton tried and the fuckers beat him down, now President Obama is trying and the same tire ass arguments from Democrats. Hey Democrats, give up your fucking access to health care and go live on the streets for a day. Bunch a fucks!

[Forkboy]

69. Should probably put down the bottle.

[MuseRider]

70. Maybe you should educate yourself

about his life. I think he knows what he is talking about. How about you?

[boppers]

71. Did Kucinich graduate from Med school?

He has what, an MA?

[mmonk]

74. No, that is not the big question.

Being forced into this position, being treated differently than Blanche Lincoln or Joe Lieberman by the administration is the big question and issue. That is what reeks of hypocrisy.