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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:21 AM
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The complete list of ways progressives strengthened health reform legislation
The complete list of ways progressives strengthened health reform legislation
by: Chris Bowers
Sun Mar 07, 2010 at 23:50


Did progressive organizations and members of Congress get completely rolled in the health reform negotiations? Nope.

By comparing the current state of health reform legislation to the most conservative proposals that were passed out of Congressional committee, a healthy list of concessions progressives forced out of the right-wing of the party becomes visible. If there were no alterations from the most conservative health reform proposals that were passed out of Congressional committees in 2009, then the current state of health reform legislation would have:

1. $125 billion less for Medicaid, CHIP and exchange subsidies (total across all three programs);

2. Numerous exceptions to Medicaid eligibility even for people below 133% of the federal poverty level (FPL from here on out);

3. No minimum medical loss ratio for health insurance plans, instead of an 85% minimum medical loss ratio;

4. The Stupak amendment, instead of the Stupak state opt-out that is in the Senate bill;

5. No extra money for federally funded Community Health Centers, instead of increased funding to provide primary care to 16.2 million patients annually;

6. An excise tax on high end insurance plans would start in 2013 (giving most unions no time to renegotiate contracts), and a lower threshold (making it less progressive);

7. No 2.9% tax increase on unearned income, making the funding mechanism for the overall bill less progressive;

8. A stronger individual mandate and fewer responsibilities for employers;

9. No national exchange, instead of what appears to be both a state-based and a national exchange in the proposal form the White House.


Does this list of concessions mean that progressive health reform activists have won resounding victories up to this point? Certainly not--the current state of health reform legislation is far from ideal, and much closer to the right-wing proposals that passed Congressional committees in 2009 than the left-wing proposals that passed out of committee.

(Even the best proposals that passed out of committee are a far cry from what many progressives wanted. Then again, there are some conservative Democrats who want no reform at all. As such, I am only looking at proposals that passed committee, since those were the only viable proposals on either side.)

Still, it is an impressive list that should make any progressive activist who participated in the health reform fight proud, even if dissatisfied. You really did improve the bill, and have the opportunity to keep improving it.

more...

http://www.openleft.com/diary/17728/the-complete-list-of-ways-progressives-strengthened-health-reform-legislation
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:22 AM
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1. Kick for Truth.
:kick:
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:27 AM
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2. it looks like it will be up to the states to fix this
so Obama has indirectly led us to another Republican idea.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:37 AM
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3. We are on the verge of providing health care for over 30 million people...
... we should be dancing in the streets (or calling Congress so that we can have a REASON to dance in the streets.)
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DisgustedInMN Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:50 AM
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4. Wrong.
We aren't getting "health care reform," what we are getting is INSURANCE reform, SHITTY, mandated, almost worthless insurance reform.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 11:12 AM
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6. you dont think health insurance needs to be improved?
And in what way are our doctors and nurses not providing adequate care?

(puts down stick)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 11:37 AM
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DisgustedInMN Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:29 AM
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14. Did I say anything about doctors and nurses?
Or are you in the habit of expecting people to argue with you about things you just flat out make up? I don't play that fools game. But let me know if you ever care to have an honest discussion.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 11:01 AM
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5. care? I think NOT. Verging on MANDATING the PURCHASE of INSURANCE
Spin all you want -- CARE has NOTHING to do with this POS bill.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 11:15 AM
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7. i'll ask you too...
.... what are our health care providers not doing right?

Do you hate nurses?

(has been moved to Monday)



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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 11:22 AM
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8. Why are you right and many congresscritters and pundits and
people with pre-existing conditions and people who don't currently have health care wrong?

I'd love to know. I'll be the first to admit this isn't perfect, as would all the folks mentioned above, but I'm of the school that we have to start somewhere to build from.


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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 02:02 PM
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10. It might be time for you to tip your own sacred cow. (nt)
*Refers to Donnachaidh's profile.*
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 11:52 PM
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11. KR
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 11:55 PM
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12. You still can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ears
no matter how hard you try!
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:09 AM
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13. oh please
"take this opportunity to celebrate in this great victory you helped win!"
we've won nothing.
we've CODIFIED for-profit insurance companies into the system.
Regulations are easily changed and avoided. Have we learned NOTHING about that the past few years?
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