When the Repubs. claim they want to "start over," why doesn't anybody ask them

[jenmito]

why they rejected all bills that WERE concocted from the bi-partisan groups (like the Finance Committee which included Enzi, Grassley, and Snowe)? Why should anybody believe that THIS time they WOULDN'T reject the very ideas they themselves came up with?

[Turbineguy]

1. By starting over

they start a new round of delays.

[jenmito]

3. I know. The ONLY reason they claim they want to start over is so they could kill it

and it can be Obama's "Waterloo."

[CrispyQ]

2. Same reason no one asked Dick Cheney if he conducts his personal finances

based on the philosophy of "deficits don't matter."

The media never calls repubs out on their hypocrisy. NEVER.

[jenmito]

5. That's true. n/t

[Bitwit1234]

6. Hey I should have added -

on further thought write "go F**K yourself" on that sheet of paper. Tell them you are taking this sheet of paper out of Cheney's book.

[Bitwit1234]

4. Since they all want to start with a blank sheet of paper

lets send them one.

[ellenfl]

7. they've had a whole YEAR! i wish some talking head would

make that point. :eyes:

ellen fl

[jenmito]

9. Exactly. And when they claim they were "shut out" of the process, the media should

name names of the Repubs. who WERE involved (and later turned against it all).

[archiemo]

18. They've had 30+ years...anyone know if an R has ever proposed

health care legislation to improve the situation?

[grilled onions]

8. It's All Stall Tactics

Where are THEIR ideas?? If they think the dems ideas are all wrong then they should be able to offer the citizens of this country their own health care plan. Of course most of us assume they have no plan because they would rather sweep the entire plan under the rugs and get onto more important issues like giving themselves raises,giving more perks to the top 1% etc but this way they can be exposed for having little in the way of ideas but hot air.

[jenmito]

10. Yup...

especially since this bill already INCLUDES many of their ideas.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

11. starting over, wiping slate clean step by step means going completely privatized

meaning no government control of healthcare period. All run by companies. No medicare, medicaid, VA.

[Ozymanithrax]

12. Because everyone knows "start over" means "kill any bill"

[jenmito]

14. I know. That's why I wish they'd be questioned when they claim they really DO want

to get HCR passed.

[OHdem10]

13. Starting over is code for Kill the Bill.

[rufus dog]

15. Starting over means

Tort Reform, high risk pools for pre existing, and selling insurance across State lines with ZERO regulation. If you go to the Repub posted plan that is it! Tort reform is a 5% reduction based upon estimates that most favor repubs. Selling insurance across state lines has its obvious flaws. IMO the Dems should be pushing the lack of a good solution from the repubs for pre existing conditions. So we currently have high unemployment, of the employed we have a huge pool of temp and contract workers. So all of these people may be denied coverage based upon pre existing condition and are those employed have health insurance through company's that can lay them off at any time, thus leaving another large group as potentially uninsurable. The high risk pools, by definition would come with high costs. So the question is; do your trust your current employer and Insurance company to provide health care coverage when you inevitably become high risk?

Again the Repubs are maximizing short term gain for Corporations over long term growth and security. A staple of repub plans for the past century and a half.

[applegrove]

16. The last time the HCR bill was negotiated the dems gave up the public option. Repukes

would love to renegotiate starting with the bill as it stands now...which is a compromize. They don't stand for anything but undoing any meaningful reform.

[Vinca]

17. Starting over means drag it out until it's dead.

[Warren Stupidity]

19. they have been asked repeatedly to present a plan

they won't.

[PurityOfEssence]

20. ...how they can "start over" when they never started in the first place?

Collectively, they have NO desire to do a damned thing about health care.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

22. the party of zero, nada, no and clean slates

[LatteLibertine]

21. IMO we should ignore them

they're disingenuous. They want stop the bill, mostly because if it passes it will be a perceived "win" for President Obama.

[jenmito]

23. Why should they go unchallenged? Ignoring them would make them sound genuine. I hope Obama

uses their talking points against them when he tells us his "way forward" tomorrow or Wednesday by saying something like, "A year ago, Repubs. and Dems. took a clean sheet of paper and came up with bipartisan health care bills. Many ideas were taken from Repubs. such as Enzi, Grassley, McCain, etc..." Let everyone know that we started fresh a year ago and they voted against everything they requested.

[BlueIdaho]

24. Why doesn't anyone ask them

Why they didn't even try to fix health care when they controlled the House, the Senate, and the White House for eight fricken years?