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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 08:25 PM
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CNN is trying to say there's a poll out saying the people want to drop this health care bill
I say B/S it all depends how you ask the question.Nancy Pelosi isn't having it she said we must reform the system.She will be interviewed tomorrow on CNN
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 08:26 PM
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1. Link to the poll?
Edited on Sat Feb-27-10 08:26 PM by Swede
nt
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 08:28 PM
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2. I'd like to drop this health care bill myself
and implement a single payer, government administered program.

So, am I helping their poll?
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 08:36 PM
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5. Me too. If it's not single-payer or has no public option, flush it down the shitter.
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:18 PM
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20. The first health care bill in Saskatchewan covered only hospital visits. You had to pay out
Edited on Sat Feb-27-10 11:23 PM by Monk06
of pocket for a doctor vis tit. Everything besides
catastrophic care was cash and carry.

It took 15+ years for Canada to get Nation Wide
Single Payer.

Grab this bill and build on it.

Why do you think the Repugs are fighting it?
They know if HCR passes and the insurers are
finally regulated that single payer is the
next step. Single payer can be added as a
future amendment to the present bill.

But as Slaughter and others said you have to
have a bill or the insurance company will
continue the way they always have; as a hidden
form of corporate taxation on the American public
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:55 AM
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24. +9999999999999
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Fruittree Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 06:40 AM
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27. I agree pass the bill as a first step
I agree with you Monk06 100%. I don't understand how people can take an 'all or nothing right now' mindset. There are good things in the bill. For me, being able to keep my son who graduates college soon on my insurance is really important. Money for community clinics is important. We have a free clinic in our community and I'd love to see it expand. Making it easier for my 81 year old mother to pay for her medications is important. Knowing that people with pre-conditions won't be denied care is important. Making the first steps of bringing insurance companies abuses into the public eye and under some kind of government scrutiny is very, very important. I view this as a first step towards single payer not an end step. Those who want 'all or nothing right now' in my opinion play right into the hands of those who want no change at all because you both want essentially the same thing which is to defeat this bill and I honestly don't think there's a better one on the way anythime soon.
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:53 AM
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23. If we can't have it ALL we want NOTHING
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:53 PM
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21. I am with you 100%
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 05:38 AM
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26. Me too nt
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 08:30 PM
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3. They should do it even if 99% of the US voters were against it. It's just right.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 08:37 PM
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6. Right if you're an HMO or Big Pharma executive.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 12:08 PM
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29. Or a person without insurance and no prospects of getting it. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 08:31 PM
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4. cnn has a lot of mediawhore polls.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 08:43 PM
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7. I would ask CNN for a link ...
... to a survey they didn't conduct among Darwin Award recipients.

... to quotes from actual citizens, NOT the Best Political Team on TV. :sarcasm:

... to a poll that didn't ask: "Do you support a HCR bill that means raising your taxes 10,000%, giving private hospital rooms to self-identified Welfare Queens, and would result in an economic meltdown across the nation?"

Yep, it's all in how you phrase the question - and we've all seen how CNN does just that.
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 09:06 PM
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10. Exactly. There was a poll, but the wording was slanted to their favor.
There was another poll that specific provisions of the HCR and it was overwhelmingly favored by citizens of US.
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 08:43 PM
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8. If they didn't
poll you then they have not polled any of the Americans I know.They have never polled me.Nor have they ever polled any of my friends and family all over America.I wonder what demographics they use.I would not put any credibility to many polls. The only polls that I usually take are the ones we link into to kill the repug cycle of lies.And they are always going to be angry at Nancy Pelosi,because they don't want women who can think in charge of them they want a Michele Bachmann who will utter their talking points and look cute and stupid.It was last year at cpac when they said in their agenda plan that women working has detroyed the fabric of the American family.I am paraphrasing.But you get it.They still want to be the womb police.They still want to have a substantial margin in the pay scale when it comes to women,they believe that women haave a place.And they think that Nancy Pelosi is out of hers.
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angelicwoman Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 08:54 PM
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9. Can you be specific? Which poll? n/t
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 09:26 PM
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11. Some polls:
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 09:29 PM
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12. CNN is so committed to staying in the middle that they can't see anything else
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 09:47 PM
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13. They may be looking at the middle....but they are standing on the right.
Edited on Sat Feb-27-10 09:48 PM by FrenchieCat
Candy Crowley looked like she was mad as hell at Nancy Pelosy.
Can't help it Candy if Nancy is at the top of her field,
and you are gaining weight again. So sorry! But Americans
need health care even if Candy doesn't want it for them.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 10:02 PM
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14. CNN has changed to look more and more like Fox "News". nt
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:54 PM
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22. Cnn is prolly envious of Faux ratings eom
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 07:47 AM
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28. All the evidence
I see indicates CNN wants to promote the Reich Wing view.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 12:13 PM
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31. I'm not sure about that. This morning Candy Crowley was practically begging...
Mitch McConnell to tell her a way the Republicans will defeat the bill. It was really quite astounding how she came across as wanting him to guarantee her that they could stop the bill. It was a strange moment.

She was clearly advocating for the defeat of the bill and not acting as a journalist in any capacity at that moment.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 10:28 PM
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15. I believe the poll. The people want single payer, not a watered down giveaway to the drug...
companies and health insurance companies.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 10:38 PM
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16. CNN is so trying to be more like Fox they mess their breeches
with every broadcast.
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VPStoltz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 10:38 PM
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17. There again is how the poll is reported.
Indeed, many - most - people want this bill dumper BECAUSE IS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PUBLIC OPTION.
It's kind of like the 2nd amendment - only part is seen as relevant in order to make a point that supports an agenda.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:05 PM
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18. CNN
fox lyte.
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cheapdate Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:11 PM
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19. Pass this damn healthcare bill now!
I've got a wife and a child with preexisting conditions and my employment picture has been getting shakier by the day and I want congress and the president to pass this goddamn bill! Now!
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 05:37 AM
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25. I don't doubt it
that's the way I would answer that poll and so would most people that I know.
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 12:11 PM
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30. Honesly
some days I would like to shove polling data directly up "news" orgs asses.

Often polls are used to shape public opinion not report it. They inspire sheep to bandwagon and/or question their convictions.
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:19 PM
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32. And there is probably a poll out there regarding a recent Elvis sighting.
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