**** Health Care Summit: Thread #7 ****

[Clio the Leo]

Continued from....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=198371&mesg_id=198371

AND THE SMACK DOWN CONTINUES!!!!

[LSK]

1. thanks, they are in overtime with Dodd speaking now

[LatteLibertine]

2. Love this sort of thing

It's great for exposing who's trying to get something done and who's parroting corporate talking points.

[Change Happens]

8. +1

[goclark]

16. That's probably why Obama wanted to do the TV coverage

To let us see what he is dealing with daily.

[tallahasseedem]

3. Dodd up...

making a lot of sense unlike those on the other side of the damn isle.

[MUAD_DIB]

6. 14 thousand Americans lose their coverage every day...

[dmr]

4. Viewer's Guide to Republican Ideas (got this from Maddow)

http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/ViewersGuide3.pdf

[SeattleGirl]

5. Thanks!

[NYC_SKP]

17. PDF file warning on that. Thanks, tho.

For some with older computers, slow connections, a blind link that opens a pdf can be unfortunate.

I don't mind, just wanted to warn others.

I try to always mention it in a reply if I link to one.

:P

[LatteLibertine]

7. Love Think Progress :)

[krkaufman]

180. Any particular trigger for this particular rhetorical hug? n/t

[dmr]

9. Too bad they don't mention the clinics MSNBC viewers paid for

working Americans with so much need, yet have no access to health care.

[LatteLibertine]

13. Good point

I was impressed by KO's efforts and those that donated time and money.

[Change Happens]

10. Has this kind of session ever been done? By any other President?

[dmr]

15. Nope, this is a first. Cool, huh?

[Change Happens]

28. Way cool and President Obama making history AGAIN!

[dmr]

44. He's going to be a tough act to follow in 2016

[Jennicut]

11. My Senator, Sen. Dodd, making sense. Health care needs to be dealt with "holistically"

[SeattleGirl]

12. That was great, and he is so correct on this.

[quiet.american]

18. Dodd made excellent points. I feel better about the second half than I did the first. nt

[krkaufman]

188. Dems really had some good moments down the stretch...

Dodd, Durbin, Waxman and Dingell, even Pelosi -- especially in contrast to what seemed Republican recitation of talking points.

[Clio the Leo]

14. lol, Rep Barton jokingly asked the President to be the moderator of any future conference committee.

... on the HCR bill. (Thanking him for doing such a good job moderating the summit.)

He's a Republican by the way .... Rep. Barton that is ... not the President. :)

[LSK]

19. do these people not understand the whole concept of insurance???

How would putting all the high risk people in a pool benefit them?

[liberal N proud]

25. If it doesn't benefit the corporation it doesn't interest them.

[gkhouston]

34. They assume they won't be the ones in the high risk pool. Somebody Else's Problem. n/t

[SeattleGirl]

37. Yeah, that's their mind set.

"We got ours, so fuck you."

[Blaukraut]

20. The Repubs' free market worship is short-sighted and tiring n/t

[gkhouston]

56. Somehow, they never welcome the "competition" of a public option.

Can't figure that one out... :freak:

[SeattleGirl]

21. This guy is starting to sound like a fly buzzing in my ear.

[tallahasseedem]

23. Did he just say that

defensive medicine stuff will save $150 billion a year? WTF?

[annabanana]

22. Barton banging the tort reform drum... STILL! I guess he wasn't

paying attention before.

[flpoljunkie]

84. Medical malpractice premiums may be down 27%, but Texas has higher rate of uninsured in U.S.!

And, I don't think the cost of health care insurance has gone down, either.

[SeattleGirl]

96. The Repubs just conveniently leave those facts out.

[SeattleGirl]

24. The issue isn't the health care system we have; we do have a

good one. What we DON'T have is good ACCESS to health care!

[Jennicut]

26. Our system is not the best in the world! We are like 31st.

[LatteLibertine]

27. Repubs don't worship capitalism or the "free market"

It's pointless rhetoric used to defend the most wealthy elite, the rigged system and their monopolies. Due to crony capitalism and corporatism they do not currently exist.

[dmr]

30. You said it!

[Arkana]

29. Oh God, Wyden's voice.

[quiet.american]

32. Hey, he's one of my faves! :) nt

[tallahasseedem]

33. Yeah but he's

finally getting to the downfall of incrementalism which is like porn for me. LOL!

[Clio the Leo]

31. the question is now not will obama pass HCR in his presidency...

.... but will this SUMMIT end during his presidency?

but I'm havin fun!

(gotta stretch my legs though! lol)

[dmr]

36. lol, is the kitty still snoring?

[Clio the Leo]

82. lol, I moved him a long time ago...

... and he graciously complied ... the kitten, however, long ago, parked himself on the footrest of this chair and is party to blame for my foot being asleep

[LatteLibertine]

41. LMAO

C-SPAN will rerun it tonight in prime time. I'm glad I haven't had to deal with a single commercial and Gawd forbid, those pimping prescription only drugs. Online streams ftw.

OMFG not polls and "We know the American people..." yaddah yaddah.

[gkhouston]

89. He should invite them back to continue this discussion tomorrow.

If HE has nothing more important to take care of, how can THEY?

Seriously, he should. They've had their day of speechifying. Now it's time to get down to brass tacks.

[krkaufman]

194. HA!!

Even funnier in the 40th minute of Obama's closing soliloquy.

[LiberalFighter]

35. What was the study Joe Barton mentioned in California study

that their premiums would go down 50% if they bought insurance in Nevada or Oregon?

I can't find it online.

[gkhouston]

63. Try checking the internet in alternate universe. Hook on a sturdy lifeline before

stepping through the bullshit portal. Godspeed.

[SeattleGirl]

38. The Repubs sure are hung up on how many pages the HCR bill is.

[quiet.american]

39. Mitch the Chin does not know how I feel. This bastard does not speak for me. nt

[tallahasseedem]

40. Someone gave the turtle

some stats on the median income of those with HSAs...whatever.

[DireStrike]

46. No no it was MEDIUM income

Pretty sure he "corrected" himself to that, after first saying median.

[LSK]

42. wow the bill grew, now its 2700 pages!!!

[Skidmore]

43. THe only "American people, the Rs listen to are the teabaggers.

Why do they get away with this?

SPoke too soon. The President is addressing it now!

[tallahasseedem]

45. Oh lord...

BACK to reconciliation.

[polichick]

47. Oh here it goes again - NO BILL & NO RECONCILIATION. Same ol' same ol'.

[Blaukraut]

48. Here it is from the chinless wonder: 'Start over' n/t

[LatteLibertine]

49. LMAO another polly who's a cracker

Raaaaawk, spout those corporate talking points! Let's see how far we can kick the can down the road!

[liberal N proud]

50. What poll is McConnell referring to?

People don't want health care?

:wtf:

[SeattleGirl]

52. It's the "Pulled it from my ass" poll.

[tallahasseedem]

55. Love it!

LOL!

[rasputin1952]

54. The one in his dreams, the one he dances on...

:evilgrin:

[rasputin1952]

51. McConnell is a piece of work isn't he...

That corner looks like a bunch of punks that have been handed a beating...Kyl is a slug, and Boehner is is looking near dead.

The R's just plain suck...all talking points...zip for substance...same dumb shit, start from scratch and polling #'s...assholes...x(

[MorningGlow]

57. So much for compromise...

WTG, repukes. :eyes:

[rasputin1952]

60. They never wanted compromise...

the want dath to HCR...nothing less...they suck...:hi:

[harun]

154. I've never heard McConnell tell one truth. He is all BS all the time.

How do they elect trash like that?

[dmr]

53. Sometimes I think McConnell wears make-up (poorly)

[rasputin1952]

58. He has too...just to make it look like he has a jaw...

;)

[Change Happens]

59. He does his make up much better at night.

[LatteLibertine]

62. Guy looks like a creepy child molestor to me

[gkhouston]

66. The embalmers don't like to rush especially challenging jobs so they got an early start. n/t

[dmr]

74. OMG! That was too funny

[MadBadger]

61. That Last answer about the polls...I've been screaming that answer for the last 6 hours

The American people still support a public option, but when you phrase it, "The Health Care bill" they dont support it. All you have to do is explain the health care bill and they support it.

[LSK]

64. I bet most Seniors didnt know it plugged the donut hole

[dmr]

65. Right - there is a difference

[LSK]

67. Tom Tort Reform Coburn up now

[LSK]

73. the Govt is not running it you fuckhead, there is no public option

:banghead:

[liberal N proud]

68. Reconnect payment with purchase?

[annabanana]

"reconnect payment with purchase" - Coburn.. THIS is the

most important focus for this tool? THIS??

[MadBadger]

69. WTF did Tom COburn just say about the Key Goal?

The Key Goal is to make health care available and affordable to all Americans.

[annabanana]

75. Stunning, isn't it?

just astounding..

[tallahasseedem]

70. Don't you love how they just...

introduced Coburn as "Dr. Coburn" to try and emphasize that he's a doctor? Whatever.

[marlakay]

71. thats the problem our goal is different than theirs

their goal is to take about money and profit margins, ours is to get people health care.

[SeattleGirl]

72. You do NOT want the same thing we do, idiot!

[Change Happens]

76. Pukes made a MAJOR MAJOR mistake not coming in with actual proposals offsetting the Pres. plan

They would have done much better had they brought in actual specific ideas (including process):

Things like we can cover more people this way blah blah blah, we think we can cut cost by this much if we do blah blah...etc.

I think they just wanted to show up, attack as much and as often as they can, and DEMAND everybody just stop everything, and start over.

[CTyankee]

217. They CAN'T do what you propose! They can ONLY obstruct.

Because they're screwed and they know it. They don't have a plan and under their philosphy, never will have one. So they have to retreat into obstructionism. Death throes of a dying era...

[LatteLibertine]

77. Coburn wants to do it again?

Sounds like they want more time to undermine public opinion with BS and to simply put it off.

[BeyondGeography]

78. For fuck's sake, Coburn, the patient will never be in charge

as long as they are up against private insurance co. shareholder demands.

[gateley]

79. Coburn Key: $$$ -- Murray Key: nobody's mom dies again because of no health

insurance.

Therein lies the difference.

[SeattleGirl]

81. Spot on!

[annabanana]

88. +1

[LiberalFighter]

80. If Bush was using his hands the way Obama is at the summit

he would definitely look like a monkey.

[SeattleGirl]

85. I thought you were going to say he'd poke himself in the eye.

:rofl:

[tallahasseedem]

91. I'm guilty of the same thing...

if someone tied my hands together I doubt I could talk.

[dmr]

83. Reconnect goal of purchase & payment - well, let's get rid of the corporate middleman then!

[POAS]

92. They just want poor people to pay more so

insurance companies pay less.

[quiet.american]

86. Thank you, Rangel, for bringing up that a few red state senators DON'T represent ALL AMERICANS.

[rufus dog]

90. that was good

[BeyondGeography]

105. A lovely moment; he has more people in his backyard than many of these Senators do in their states

[Arkana]

87. Chaaaaahhhhhhlie Rangel is goin' to the show

[Clio the Leo]

93. Rangle: "Let's stop knocking each other on who's the smartest or who's the most patriotic." NT

[Clio the Leo]

94. Last one: John Dingle....

... "God Bless you Mr. President! The nation needs you and needs health care reform!"

[Jennicut]

99. Poor old John Dingle has wanted to see health care reform happen forever.

[tridim]

95. Dingell speaking, CNN on a commercial break.

:eyes:

[NYC_SKP]

97. Thank goodness for the online streams. CNN has to have ads, talking heads.... n/t

[NYC_SKP]

100. Dingell was elected two years before I was born, and I'm 52 years old. Holy Cow! n/t

[dmr]

102. Same here. We were just babies.

[dmr]

108. I read your post wrong. I was born in 52! (Don't tell anybody)

[BReisen]

103. Me too! I agree - wow!! n/t

[LatteLibertine]

98. Internet streams ftw :)

Don't miss the prescription only drug commercials or the pundits telling me what I'm hearing.

Sure, I'll watch Rachel and KO later for their opinion and I don't need the event filtered at the time it occurs.

[liberal N proud]

101. HSA's are great - IF you have money to put in them.

[NYC_SKP]

113. I think they suck. I had a Section 125, managed by a private corp. Had to anticipate annual costs.

(Now I know HSAs are not the same as Section 125s)

Section 125: Had to keep and submit receipts at the end of the year in order to enjoy the tax break.

How are you supposed to know what your cost will ahead of time???

So I put away like $50/month, held by the private third party.

Do you know what happens to YOUR money if you don't submit the paperwork for the amount withheld?

They KEEP IT!

Fuck that shit.

Just make all medical expenses deductible.

[MiniMe]

140. They are wonderful, but they aren't insurance

[liberal N proud]

208. Exactly

and the pukes all want to push them off as such.

The only thing they are great about is helping with cost not covered by insurance

[Clio the Leo]

104. Dingle: "If there's something wrong with deciding something by 51 votes..."

"I wish someone would tell me why."

[DevonRex]

109. That was fantastic!!!!!

He rocks!

[SeattleGirl]

106. "...high handed abuse by the insurance companies."

Love that line!

[liberal N proud]

107. Dingle is great

Talking about people losing health care and not understanding how anyone can defend the insurance companies.

[Clio the Leo]

110. POTUS: "John Boehner, do you want to say anything in closing?"

John: "No."

[DevonRex]

117. Ha ha. Too much vodka in the water glass?

[rufus dog]

118. I missed that

Did he really bail again?

WTF is the District in OH electing this guy for?

[gateley]

125. Boehner: "burp" He's still smarting because he was chastised and called on

his BS. Plus, he's probably exhausted from carrying in all those 2400+ page socialist plans as PROOF the American people don't want it.

[SeattleGirl]

111. Jeez, Grassley is staring daggers at Pelosi!

[MorningGlow]

115. He looks like an angry toad n/t

[krkaufman]

205. I think the angry squint-eyed look is Grassley's normal state. n/t

[LatteLibertine]

112. Is Speaker Pelosi going to fight for the Public Option?

Go girl!!

[gateley]

116. Whoa -- ! nt

[LSK]

114. Nancy bringing up the public option

[LSK]

126. Shes calling out some of them on lies

Boner on funding abortion

Camp on medicare cuts for Seniors

[MorningGlow]

119. Pelosi smacks Boner

NO public funding of abortion in the bill.

Niiiice. :D

[NYC_SKP]

129. OUCH!

:P

[KathieG]

131. That sounds wrong in so many ways lol.

:D

[MorningGlow]

133. ...

;)

[Clio the Leo]

120. Pelosi: "Mr. Boehner, there is NO public funding for abortion in these bills."

PERIOD!

[SeattleGirl]

121. Bwahahaha! The look on Boner's face after Nancy called him out!

:rofl:

[rufus dog]

128. that was cool

it looks like he woke up and realized he got hit.

[annabanana]

130. "Huh? Wha?". . .it was pretty funny

[krkaufman]

220. Did the orange tint briefly fluctuate to red? n/t

[tallahasseedem]

122. Nancy going off...

on douche talking points. Boner can't stand it.

[Change Happens]

136. I love it when she does that......nt

[NYC_SKP]

123. Nancy P. Setting record straight. Reps slack jawed. n/t

[jenmito]

134. I'm so glad she didn't let those lies go unanswered!

[NYC_SKP]

159. I missed some of it, was it Cantor and Boehner? What were the specific points.

I know she named names, and I know abortion was one of the corrections.

Did you catch the rest?

[dmr]

170. Boner on no fed money for abortions, Camp on not screwing up Medicare funding

[NYC_SKP]

218. Thank you! n/t

[BeyondGeography]

124. Very solid, Madame Speaker

[CherokeeDem]

127. Nancy is kicking some Republican Ass....

Go Nancy!!!!

[polichick]

132. Yes, she is - kudos to her!!!

[gateley]

135. Man, Pelosi tells it like it is! VERY impressive!! nt

[SeattleGirl]

138. Yes, she was! I loved how she called them out on their lies!

[gateley]

143. By name, no less! Point by point! Wow! nt

[dmr]

the look on Boner's face was: Who me?

[gateley]

174. Boehner's taken his share of slaps today. Well deserved, of course. nt

[Clio the Leo]

137. POTUS closing remarks.....NT

[Clio the Leo]

139. we agree there needs to be regulation, just not on how much. NT

[Change Happens]

147. Man, our President is sooooo smart and I am sure there is a teleprompter

noone can see with the naked eye!

:sarcasm:

[SeattleGirl]

150. You mean he didn't write his talking points on his hands?

:rofl:

[Clio the Leo]

158. purchasing across state lines is discussed in the house and senate bills. NT

[Clio the Leo]

167. "GOP somehow was not able to reform health care ...."

"when they had control of the WH, House and Senate."

[Clio the Leo]

169. "Rep Barton, I couldn't quite follow your math, not sure you could either..." NT

[Clio the Leo]

173. "The GOP liked the idea of an exchange until I embraced it and then suddenly ..."

"it became less of a good idea."

[SeattleGirl]

175. I loved it that he said that!

[Clio the Leo]

176. "baby steps dont get you to the place you want to go" NT

[gateley]

141. Who's the guy sitting on Wyden's left -- anybody know? nt

[LSK]

152. Roskam n/t

[MorningGlow]

157. Was that the dweeby stuffed shirt?

Mr. Etch-a-Sketch?

[gateley]

172. Thanks - he's looked so unhappy and bitter all day long. nt

[quiet.american]

210. Now hereafter known as "Etch-A-Sketch Guy." nt

[SeattleGirl]

142. Yes sir, Mr. President! My husband and I had to file bankruptcy

because of medical bills.

[dmr]

144. My sister did too

[SeattleGirl]

149. It sucks!

[crazylikafox]

145. Ha ha. Obama asks PUBS to give him a list of the reforms they don't think the American people need

[annabanana]

151. pretty good. . . THAT'S a list that'll be a long time coming.

[Born_A_Truman]

153. That was putting in the perfect light ...

...and he might have added, or your family doesn't need either.

[polichick]

146. The Prez did a nice job with this event - hopefully viewers will see...

...who wants to help and who doesn't.

[Skidmore]

148. And the President gives the Rs a lesson in markets...

lol!

[BeyondGeography]

156. Lo and behold...

[SeattleGirl]

155. "What we don't want is a race to the bottom."

[tallahasseedem]

160. Who the fuck just

interrupted our President AGAIN?

[LSK]

164. I think it was Alexander but not sure

[rufus dog]

165. It may have been Alexander

It wasn't the Douchebag.

[SeattleGirl]

166. Republicans are so fucking rude!

[dmr]

161. They should have a "Congress trade insurance plans for a year" with Americans

and then see what they think about it

[Born_A_Truman]

162. If this bill only covered ONLY Congress and their families...

how would it be written?

[Change Happens]

163. Is Hardball on right now?

[LatteLibertine]

168. No Olympic BS. MSNBC has had that since 2pm est I think

[MadBadger]

183. In fairness to them. They've had Olympics on the schedule for a lot longer than this Summit

They've probably had Olympics on the schedule for months and months, while this Summit came about within the month

[hisownpetard]

171. "Obie-gynies' - hahaha. Never heard that before.

[Clio the Leo]

177. yeah, he always calls them that. funny nT

[MiniMe]

196. Bet he got that from Michelle

[krkaufman]

202. I don't know where he got it ...

... but he needs to return it if he can find the receipt.

[krkaufman]

178. I thought Obama missed one hell of an opportunity ...

... after one of John McCain's fits, when McCain misleadingly lectured Obama on the Gang of 14 compromise to avoid the so-called "nuclear option."

Obama should have challenged McCain *right then* to agree to the same compromise as the Gang of 14 deal -- the Democrats would agree to not exercise the so-called "nuclear option", changing the Senate rules to eliminate or limit the filibuster, if the Republicans would agree to a simple up-or-down democratic vote on health care reform.

(comment re: Obama's general effectiveness omitted)

[Skidmore]

181. No, he shouldn't have. The focus today needs to be on

the healthcare package and not on a pissing contest for the press to salivate over.

[dmr]

184. No, he mentioned more than once not to focus on process. Americans don't care about that.

[krkaufman]

214. Americans care about results and effectiveness ....

... and after a year we're yet to see the results. As for effectiveness, the fact that we're 13 months in and still diddling around on health care pretty much ends that debate. We're in crisis on several fronts and Obama seems to be continually in a state of analysis paralysis.

Obama could have politely framed the response to McCain as...

"John, here's a good example of where we can find agreement. I agree with you that the spirit of that compromise, the so-called 'Gang of 14 compromise', to avoid the 'nuclear option' should be heeded in this debate, and think I can speak for my Democratic colleagues in committing to the maintenance of existing Senate rules and in welcoming your commitment to a simple up-or-down democratic vote on the health reform package."

As Obama left it, he allowed McCain's mischaracterization of the 'Gang of 14' compromise to go unchallenged. Weak.

[hlthe2b]

209. No... that is up to Pelosi and Harry Reid

It is not his place to decide congressional strategy in this public forum over Reid and Pelosi. He, of course will be influential with both from the sidelines, but there is a separation of powers.

[krkaufman]

216. Yes, of course he couldn't get an *actual* agreement ...

... but he could have effectively forced one, or at least cemented the image of hypocritical Republicans.

Simply suggesting that Harry Reid would likely welcome John McCain's commitment to extending the 'Gang of 14' compromise to the health care reform vote, committing to a democratic up-or-down vote on the legislation precluding any modifications to Senate rules.

[LatteLibertine]

179. You can tell by their faces

they have no intention of voting for HCR regardless of what President Obama says or does.

We already knew that though.

[dmr]

182. True. POTUS is talking to America now, I think

[LatteLibertine]

189. Yep

one point of the exercise is to continue to expose them as disingenuous.

I'm hoping he goes for reconciliation not longer after this. Time to get it done.

[MorningGlow]

190. He knows it

Once again he's just showing the American public who the obstructionists are--not by saying so, but by letting them reveal themselves. Pretty damned smart.

[LatteLibertine]

198. Yeppers President Obama is simply

more shrewd than they are and politically astute.

[Clio the Leo]

185. HYPOCRITE!!!

Your 10 mins, Mr. President have gone 18!!!

... (but keep going, we're loving it!)

[gateley]

191. I'm sure McConnell is keeping track of the minutes, too. nt

[MiniMe]

186. I just realized, where is his teleprompter?

:rofl: Sorry, had to put that in there.

[Clio the Leo]

187. lol, President ALMOST just said, "Democrat votes..."

as opposed to "Democratic."

[gateley]

197. I heard that - glad he caught himself. nt

[Clio the Leo]

192. I spy Pete Souza!

Taking some more awesome photos for us!

[gateley]

193. They must be exhausted - I know I am and all I've been doing is laying on the

sofa. I even dozed for a bit!

[SeattleGirl]

195. Aw, come on Mr. President! Let's have another one of these!

Watching you smack the Pubs around is a thing of beauty!

[dmr]

199. So does Boner feel like he was set up?

[MorningGlow]

200. ROFL!

I love how low-key his threats are! "Can't figure something out in the next few months, your constituents are going to bounce you out on your ass in November. So be it...!"
:rofl:

[LatteLibertine]

201. Ok time for a serious break

my ass is asleep :P

Thanks for all the thoughts and comments guys. Been entertaining.

[tallahasseedem]

204. I just told my husband that mine is too...

LOL! I need to go to they gym now.

[Clio the Leo]

203. and....... ~ scene ~ NT

[liberal N proud]

206. Proud to have President Obama on our side

[Schema Thing]

207. Lip readers needed!!

[MrsCorleone]

211. That was riveting! Too bad the majority of Americans did not have access

to the entire summit because of our not-so-free press.

Please flood your local cable/satellite providers with letters and calls demanding that C-Span channels 1, 2, & 3 be made available in their basic packages.

The press (MSNBC, CNN, Fox) did all that they could to hide, spin, and pervert today's event. F**ckin' tragic.

[quiet.american]

212. I was freaking out at the start of this, but I feel Dems came away with a good result.

They spent the afternoon forcefully taking on GOP misinformation and they did a great job of it. Especially framing GOP resistance as endorsing discrimination and segregation. Very powerful.

Another frame I liked was, why is it great, Repubs, when you have government-funded healthcare, but socialism when anyone else does?

Obama was actually more candid in his closing remarks than I expected. Very strong, very honest closing.

I'm impressed. I freak out when I think Democrats are letting Republicans define them, so please excuse all my yelling earlier. :)

[dmr]

213. Don't worry about it. We all get antsy sometimes.

:)

[quiet.american]

221. Thanks for that!

:hi:

[elleng]

215. U.S. vs. Canadian Women Hockey shortly!!!!

Good to be with y'all today!

:toast:

[Phx_Dem]

223. USA! USA! USA! Can't wait.

[krkaufman]

219. Dear lord... CNN's post-summit coverage is horrific

I've only been watching a few minutes and, so far, I've seen Wolf Blitzer summarize the minutes allotted to each party and the President, and was just subjected to nonsensical suggestions submitted by Internet idiots.

c.n.n...i.s...f.u.l.l...o.f...m.o.r.o.n.s.

[Political_Junkie]

222. Thanks to all who kept this going.

I just got home from work wondering what happened today and here you all have summed it up so nicely. Round of applause for all of you.
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
:yourock:

[dmr]

224. They're replaying it on CSpan 1 or 2 tonight. Try to catch it if you can

or from their website. It was interesting.