"Stupak: 15-20 Dems withholding support for White House health plan."

[Clio the Leo]

(I think) related to...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=195772&mesg_id=195772

And expounding on what I said...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=195772&mesg_id=196470

Stupak: 15-20 Dems withholding support for White House health plan

By Jordan Fabian - 02/24/10 02:41 PM ET
There are 15-20 House Democrats who are withholding their support for President Barack Obama's healthcare proposal, Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) said Wednesday.

Stupak led a broad coalition of anti-abortion Democrats in November, demanding that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) include tough abortion restrictions in the lower chamber's legislation lest she lose a chance of passing the bill.

The Michigan Democrat has voiced unhappiness with the president's plan because it upholds the Senate's abortion language, which he says is too loose and could allow federal dollars to pay for abortion procedures.
But Stupak said that the group of 15-20 Democrats oppose it not just because of the abortion provisions.

Asked on Fox News if he thinks the president's fixes will pass the House, Stupak said, "Despite the abortion language, no, there are other problems with this bill...(I have spoken to) probably about 15 or 20 of them in the last 24 hours; they've said there are other problems with this bill."

Stupak's remarks come after House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) Wednesday morning predicted that Democrats would fall 14 votes short of passing the bill.

The House passed its bill in November by a count of 220-215 and even a 15-vote defection would prevent Pelosi from passing the president's plan.

Until Stupak spoke, no Democrat had handicapped the exact vote count on the president's plan. The White House currently wants the House to pass the Senate's original healthcare bill then for both chambers to pass its fixes, with the Senate using the budget reconciliation process.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/83461-stupak-15-20-dems-withholding-support-for-white-house-health-plan

I FEAR that Boehner may just SURPRISE us with a sudden flurry of bipartisanship tomorrow ... not that he's willing to work with US ... but that he's found 20 Dems in the House who are willing to work WITH HIM!!!!

[bluestateguy]

1. I don't find that convincing

Sounds like chest thumping to me.

[Clio the Leo]

2. Hopefully by this time tomorrow I'll agree with you.

But I have a bad feeling about this.

[dkf]

3. Didn't kucinich vote no?

[Clio the Leo]

4. And is still planning to...

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/02/24/2211376.aspx

[FrenchieCat]

6. 31 Million uninsured people can go to hell, I assume!

Thanks Stupak and Kucinich! :hi:

Where would we be without youse?

Closer to a bill, that's for sure!

[BlueIdaho]

5. Stupak's pissed cuz he's not at the table tomorrow.

Now, if he decides to let Boner lead him in the room by his nose we'll know exactly what's wrong with the President's bill.

Its obviously too effective.