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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 10:25 AM
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"President Obama took the Senate health care bill and stripped special deals "

Senate Bill Used As Framework Of White House Health Care Plan

Christina Bellantoni

President Obama took the Senate health care bill and stripped special deals and added his preferred compromise for taxing high-end insurance plans, detailing for the first time his preferred approach for finishing the long battle for reform.

The White House just released the Obama plan in advance of Thursday's health care summit, framing it as an improvement to the Senate bill and an ultimate compromise.

The administration is signaling they are prepared to push the plan through reconciliation, talking about the need for an "up or down" vote, and wants the American people to see the negotiations play out on television among Democrats and Republicans.

Obama aides described what they are posting today at WhiteHouse.gov as the president's "take" on bridging the differences between the House and Senate bills passed last year. It's largely been crafted based on negotiations Democratic leaders had with Obama in the Cabinet room before the Jan. 19 election in Massachusetts.

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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 10:28 AM
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1. Well, delaying the tax works for five years works for ME...
(I'll be leaving the country when I retire in 6 years)

...but it's a lousy "solution".
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 10:33 AM
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3. I may have to stay a few years longer.
But Canada is looking better and better every day to me.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 06:26 PM
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21. If the rest of the plan works and holds down costs,
it might be that it would not hit you anyway.
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 10:33 AM
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2. No public option. Shocker.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 10:40 AM
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4. OK where did it go?
If there is no Public Option I am going on strike!
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 10:49 AM
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5. No PO no deal. PERIOD
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:33 PM
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10. PO is a feeble, weak, piece of shit when compared to real price control regulations.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:41 PM
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12. Not if the PO = Medicare for all NOW
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:47 PM
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13. Oh excuse me, I thought we were having a discussion within the confines of reality.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:50 PM
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14. We create out own reality. If the Death cult crew could we can too
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:22 PM
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18. You can't create an unblockable single payer measure in the senate with today's members..
Thats reality
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 04:37 PM
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19. What do you hope to create with YOUR reality?
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 11:32 AM
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6. So what? The Senate bill was shit to begin with. It's still shit now.
I see no true public option so I don't see what there is to celebrate.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:46 PM
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7. Did he strip the abortion "compromise" special deal?
The one that was made for one vote. Didn't think so.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:24 PM
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8. I think ProSense posted a thread that says that Stupak's little bitchfest
didn't make it into Obama's version of the bill.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:30 PM
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9. No the Senate abortion language is in the Obama bill
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:51 PM
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15. And that's a GOOD thing.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:12 PM
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16. I don't support the Hyde amendment which is in the bill
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:17 PM
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17. Too bad. The Hyde amendment was the status quo and like Obama said, "This
is not an abortion bill." That was in his opposition of the Stupak amendment and in favor of keeping the Hyde amendment. I'm glad we won to not take away any rights like Stupak would've done.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 06:00 PM
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20. The Hyde amendment was not an abortion bill either.
It was attached to a budget bill. If it is never confronted it will always be the "status quo" and we will never be rid of it. Why run for president if you just want maintain the status quo and take the easy route every time?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 06:42 PM
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22. Abortion rights are not taken away in this bill. This was what everyone on our side said
they wanted-to keep the Hyde amendment. We got that.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:42 PM
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27. This is a renewal and re-ratification of anti-abortion Hyde amendment
You did get that and I hope you are happy with this re-affirmation of the oppression of women.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 09:39 PM
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28. Again-this is NOT an abortion bill. This was not supposed to change the status quo
Edited on Mon Feb-22-10 09:40 PM by jenmito
re: how they cover abortions and it didn't. Mission accomplished. The Stupak amendment would've taken our rights away. That didn't survive the final cut. I would've been angry if it did.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:38 PM
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11. there will be public exchanges, similar to the exchanges that Congress uses. No?
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:06 PM
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23. He stripped the special deals out? Really?
I mean, really really?

Like, for example: did he strip out the special agreement with Big Pharma?

Oh, not that special deal. I see. Well then.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:08 PM
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24. Well thanks for letting me know that
I hated the Senate Bill without the special deals, the special deals just made it more nauseating.

Now it's just a shitty bill without bribes.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:36 PM
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25. Is that pharma deal gone then? nt
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