Pawlenty : First Conservative Principle: 'God is in Charge'

[grantcart]

It is now official.

From a biblical, theological, political and a US history perspective -

Tim Pawlenty is an idiot.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/19/pawlentys-principles-gods-in-charge/

Pawlenty’s Principles: ‘God’s in Charge’
By ADAM NAGOURNEY
The Conservative Political Action Conference heard from another likely presidential candidate for 2012 on Friday – Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota. Mr. Pawlenty offered a series of what he called principles for the conservative movement that have become familiar here: Reducing the size of government, opposing President Obama’s health care plan, denouncing Mr. Obama’s handling of terrorist.

But at a conference where there has not been a lot of talk about social issues, Mr. Pawlenty raised one as he laid out the principles conservatives should follow.

The first one is this: God’s in charge,” he said. “God is in charge.” Mr. Pawlenty’s remarks drew a wave of applause. “There are some people who say, “Oh, you know, Pawlenty, don’t bring that up. You know, it’s politically incorrect.”

“Hogwash,” Mr. Pawlenty said. “These are enshrined in the founding documents and perspective of our country. In the Declaration of Independence, it says we are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights. It doesn’t say we’re endowed by Washington, D.C., or endowed by the bureaucrats or endowed by state government; it’s by our creator that we are given these rights..”

This is exactly the same first principle of Al Queda and the Taliban.

And now you know how a secular Muslim feels when people ask them why the hell they didn't stop the Taliban and Al Queda when they first started expressing their bullshit.

And of course if you believed Pawlenty's tripe you would believe that God wanted President Obama elected, because after all he's in charge, (he was just taking a sabatical during the Holacaust).

[begin_within]

1. If God is in charge then the Republicans can all quit.

[roguevalley]

21. Pawlenty is so daft, he jumped off a cliff with this. He's officially

unelectable.

[Cha]

2. I f there is a god ..why would he make

so-called "conservatives" such hypocritical, lying assholes?

[dflprincess]

3. He's getting crazier by the minute

Check out this thread where he (metaphorically) advoctes violence against the government (and keep in mind yesterday's kamikaze pilot)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=160x38435

[livetohike]

4. Pandering to the conservative crowd. Getting ready for a

Pawlenty/Palin 2012 bumpersticker next. God is only in charge if things turn out the way they (conservatives)like it to turn out. :eyes: Otherwise, I guess God made a mistake :shrug:.

[lyonn]

11. Interesting that they don't mention George W's disaster

Was god not guiding George, according to George. So, god hates Iraq and loves corporations. Do the right wing believers ever question anything?

[Sebastian Doyle]

26. I'll bet Tim didn't mention his own disaster either

[BeyondGeography]

5. I thought the corporations were in charge

[Ozymanithrax]

6. God is neither a natural born nor a naturalized citizen of the United States...

Therefore, God can not be in charge.

[boppers]

22. Have you seen God's birth certificate?

How would *you* know if he wasn't a natural born nor a naturalized citizen, if you haven't personally seen the birth certificate?

:evilgrin:

[lyonn]

7. My creator was my mother and father

They were young and foolish. So, here I am.

Didn't many move to the U.S. due to religious persecution? I wasn't a very good student but that sticks in my mind. We are suppose to be accepting of all religions here in the U.S. and that includes those of us that don't believe in a higher power.

People that think they have all the right answers are frightening. Those teabaggers believe they know what is right for the masses. Don't ask them any hard questions because they don't have answers. They are god inspired and blessed, no need for deep thoughts.

[polichick]

8. This is what Republican voters crave - some strong big-daddio looking out for them. nt

[rurallib]

9. He been breathing too close to Bachmann?

is her idiocy spreading

[DrToast]

10. So, Big government = bad. Supreme being ruling over all things = good?

:shrug:

[louis-t]

12. Fundie excuse for failure.

"It wasn't me."

[JaneQPublic]

13. Second Conservative Principal: God is on the side of the GOP (nt)

[MadMaddie]

29. Sounds like Al Queda and the Taliban! No difference.

[JaneQPublic]

36. True on many levels. (nt)

[jwirr]

14. Pawlenty is an ass. If he knew anything about his religion he would

know that God expects His good works to be accomplished by humans for one another. And I mean GOOD works not wars and the idiocy of the repug party.

[Zoeisright]

37. Not to mention that Pawlenty violates Jesus' principles every single second.

He constantly hurts the poor, women, and children with his cruel and short-sighted policies.

I wish he would drop dead.

[jwirr]

40. So agree. I always wonder what Bible they are reading.

[Phx_Dem]

15. Oh dear God. No pun intended.

What a fucking loser.

[zulchzulu]

16. Tim, God just told me you're going to get your ass kicked, assturd n/t

[CBGLuthier]

17. My creator was my parents

My rights came from their citizenship.

Who needs god?

[Odin2005]

18. I am SOOO sick of this idiot being my governor.

[Hansel]

24. I'll 2nd that.

Love how he vetoes the health care extension for the poor from CPAC. He must have been so proud.

[Lifelong Protester]

19. What a pandering 'moran'

too bad I still get my "local" news from the Twin Cities. I have to mute the TV when he is on.

[imnKOgnito]

20. Funny how they cherry pick

and miscontsrue. Those rights he speaks of are endowed to each by 'their' own creator, not by an 'our' collective creator. He also neglects that Republicans are hell bent on interfering with and in some cases eliminating the specific inalienable rights mentioned, those being "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." I'd also go one step further and say that given the topics of some of the speakers and the explicit identification of liberals, progressives, and socialist democrats as 'enemies', quoting the Declaration of Independence in this case rather than the Constitution itself could be heard as a dog whistle for fomenting revolution. These groups are definitely reaching the level of being a physical threat to the well being of this nation and those of us on the 'enemies' list would do well to be prepared.

[polichick]

23. Oh goodie, the first official American Taliban candidate. nt

[Hansel]

25. Does anyone else from MN remember Timmy so openly mentioning God?

I don't think I can remember him campaigning on religion. Seem to adopted that rather quickly or I haven't been paying close enough attention.

Doesn't he usually try to play a moderate on TV during campaigns, and then rule like a corportistic dictator?

[Odin2005]

28. Yep, this is very much out of character for him.

Then again running for president is different than running to be the governor of a liberal state. Despite Bachmann, the extreme loonies are uncommon here, and even our evangelical types submit to the principles of "Minnesota Nice".

[MadMaddie]

30. He probably signed the Taliban Christian Manifesto to uphold

whatever rules they must abide by. I would put up a sarcasm smilie but I am very serious.

[Zoeisright]

38. No, he didn't.

He's a little weasel of the first order. He's ruined this state by refusing to raise income taxes no matter what, which has decimated our infrastructure (see 35W bridge disaster and unbelievably poor roads AND slower snow plowing), cut funding for domestic abuse prevention programs, health care for the poor, AND we have lots of air quality warnings now.

I hate his fucking guts and wish he would drop dead. NOW.

[Duke Newcombe]

27. Did that include November, 2008, Timmeh?

What a punk.

[Hekate]

31. So Pawlenty's god is a warmonger who doesn't want people to have health care?

And "Rev." Pat Roberts' god is a demonic homophobe into drowning or flattening whole cities to make a point? I'm only going by the descriptions given by RW believers.

It just doesn't seem like the same god as this one, does it:

Jesus said, "Not all who say, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he who doeth the will of my Father who is in heaven" (Matt. 7:21).

But now abideth faith, hope, love, these three; and the greatest of these is love. (1 Cor. 13:13)

'For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me. ... I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.’ (Matt. 25:35-40)

Hekate

[smalll]

32. Remember the good old days when God was just a "co-pilot"???

Now he's "in CHARGE!"

[justgamma]

33. Of course God is in charge!

Why else would God give the Dems 60 Senators? They didn't listen to Him. He obviously didn't want the pukes in power any more. He is not happy, you heathen hypocrits!

[IndianaGreen]

34. Isn't that the same thing that Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei says?

This means that now we must begin murdering each other in order to put our preferred Deity truly in charge.

[Kyril Enko]

35. Ali Akbar!

And may Allah continue to bless the United States of America!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Crunchy Frog]

39. Is God in charge of letting bridges disintegrate and collapse?

[DRoseDARs]

41. Er, no. God was pretty clear on this...

"λεγουσιν καισαρος τοτε λεγει αυτοις αποδοτε ουν τα καισαρος καισαρι και τα του θεου τω θεω." (ΚΑΤΑ ΜΑΤΘΑΙΟΝ 22:21)

[Hawaii Hiker]

42. Well, that confirms it, Tim Pawlenty is mentally unstable

Next he'll talk about burning witches & non-believers...

Tim Pawlenty, party like it's the year 1607....

Just further proves, that even if you're disappointed in President Obama, any republican alternative is FAR FAR worse, and downright dangerous...

[bullwinkle428]

43. JESUS! This mofo makes Bush look like the President of Mensa!

:nuke: :nuke:

[hatrack]

44. Well if that's the case, then why is everything so fucked up?

Oh, yeah, I forgot - he's "testing us" - Talking Point #3 from the Magical Shifting Goalposts Handbook.