I am amazed at all we have accomplished with what we have had to fight against....seriously

[Peacetrain]

The republicans have been using the filibuster as a club to keep bills from coming up to vote even when they agree with them.. the gridlock of republicans is just legendary. This is not the first nor will it be the last time we deal with those bedbugs.

But putting that aside, we have accomplished so much with so little help. Really stunning what we have gotten done in this climate


This is just one..but a big one :
http://green.tmcnet.com/topics/green/articles/50701-analysis-president-obamas-new-green-stimulus-law.htm

* $4.5 billion for the repair of federal buildings to increase energy efficiency using green technology

* $11 billion for smart-grid related activities, including work to modernize the electric grid and smart grid grants

* $6.3 billion for energy efficiency and conservation grants

* $5 billion for the Weatherization Assistance Program

* $2.5 billion for energy efficiency and renewable energy research

* $2 billion in grant funding for the manufacturing of advanced battery systems and components and vehicle batteries produced in the U.S.

* $6 billion for new loan guarantees aimed at standard renewable projects such as wind or solar projects and for electricity transmission projects

* $1 billion for energy efficiency programs including alternative fuel trucks and buses, transportation charging infrastructure, and smart and energy efficient appliances

* $8.4 billion for public transportation

* $9.3 billion for investments in rail transportation, including Amtrak and high-speed rail

* $4 billion to the public housing capital fund to enable local public housing agencies to address a $32 billion backlog in capital needs, especially those improving energy efficiency

* $6 billion to cleaning up former weapon production and energy research sites

* $1.38 billion to support $3.8 billion in loans and grants for needed water and waste disposal facilities in rural areas

“This is a historic and unprecedented investment in clean energy, green jobs and green infrastructure,” is how Melinda Pierce, Sierra Club’s lead advocate for the bill and Deputy Director of National Campaigns reacted to the bill. “This monumental bill revolutionizes our government’s approach to clean energy and will finally transform our economy into something that works for the 21st century. With these investments and incentives in clean energy, efficiency and smarter infrastructure, we will be able to literally rebuild the American economy in a way that not only creates jobs but sets us on the path to a clean energy future.”

[Peacetrain]

1. Bedbugs are up early this morning

You guys kill me.. :rofl:.. how much coffee do you go through to stay up all night to get a jump start on the buttons..

[goclark]

29. Isn't it amazing ~ great post

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[Peacetrain]

3. you are wrong.. dead wrong.. end of story

everything done that needs to be done..no..but this meme that the administration has not been fighting the good fight,,,is just dead wrong..

[ChairmanAgnostic]

4. I would love for you to be right. But my lying eyes must be deceiving me

I suspect that the majority of those saying Obama does NOT deserve a second term do so because there is of leadership from the White House.

[Peacetrain]

7. Bullhockey..

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[ChairmanAgnostic]

36. amazing.

is truth so hard to take?

Is Al Franken a racist for saying the same thing?
Is Caucus in Congress, (last time I check, made up of african americans), racist for complaining about the same thing?

Obama can easily succeed. But he has to get out there and fight, and not let the GOP and big insurance define his agenda for him. He has shown no inclination for doing that yet.

[tibbiit]

6. I agree with what you say

but the down side is the democrats have been abysmal in making people aware of what has been accomplished. You would think they learned nothing from the clinton years of how the pukes would behave. When Obama picked rahm I thought good... he was there for the clinton years and must remember they have to use the microphone to broadcast the good things done, and take no prisoners! I thought he would remember they must be hard on pukes from the get go to get the upper hand because the puke behavior is the same for every democrat. I thought they would do things smart like their campaign style.
I was wrong. THey have sucked at this. They have not done a single thing to help themselves against the enemy pukies.
I blame rahm and the admin for not seeing this would happen and put a stop to repug obstruction and bomb throwning! It didnt have to be this way.
tib

[goclark]

30. Right again

[asdjrocky]

5. I would love you to come to my neighborhood and say that.

You would be laughed out of town.

[Peacetrain]

9. You come to my neighborhood, and we are fighting .. but not giving in

With your attitude, my neighbors would not be too kind... I suggest you stay where you are.

[asdjrocky]

10. I'm staying where I am and fighting locally.

We are getting no help here from the White House or Congress.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

11. you said it.

It is not just us, saying it. IT IS DEM SENATORS SAYING THE SAME THING.

If Obama is half as smart as rumors go, he should be showing facial bruises from the proverbial 2x4 that he's gotten of late. AND he should be making changes. To his staff. The longer he waits, the tougher it is.

The GOP has measured this president and found him wanting. He will never go out on a limb. He will never stand up to pure obstruction. He may give a speech, then go back to the White House. They have his number.

On the other side, the Dems are frustrated (as am I). Every time they go to bat for him, they get hung out to dry. There has been no support, no push, no nothing.

Just look back to HCR last summer. Obama's sole move was to give a speech, demanding action before August break. And then he did nothing. He did absolutely nothing. Not even an outline. Not a line in the sand, no suggestion of what he demands in a bill. That gave Big Insurance the ball, with our defense still on the bench. Obama easily could have put all those lies down like a rabid dog. BUT HE DIDN'T! He didn't even try.

[proudohioan]

12. Probably my neighborhood as well...

it just seems too tired, depressed and beaten down right now to even have any fight left.......

And I love my neighborhood; wouldn't leave it for the world.

t.:hi:

[asdjrocky]

13. You have to wonder if anyone has knocked on their doors to ask for food.

For a lot here if they don't see it, then it doesn't' exist.

I love my hood and the people in it, they will carry me out. I would rather sit on my porch on a hot summer night with a dozen poor people than have a night on the town with one millionaire.

You have to get into the world, talk to the people before you start telling me how great everything is.

Peace at ya! :hi:

[Peacetrain]

14. Bullhockey..

All of us are working hard.. I know I do not live in a privileged neighborhood.. and I am taking you at your word, you do not either..

I am not going to roll over and play dead for anyone.. even other Democrats.. and no one around me is either.

I am in for the fight

[asdjrocky]

18. Yeah, I get the talking points.

Not once did I say I'm rolling over and playing dead. Do you even read the stuff you reply to?

I have no choice but to fight, with my poor brothers and sisters by my side. They are the only help we have because I repeat, once again, there is no help coming.

As for taking me at my word, I'm secure with my reputation for honesty here at DU.

[proudohioan]

22. Peace back at ya!

You know, that's precisely why I love my neighborhood; the ability to sit in my front yard on a hot summer night, say "hello" to the passers by (and there are a lot of them) and watch the fireflies. I live in an incredibly diverse neighborhood (my roommate has stated that Euclid would be MLK's dream come true) and I truly love every minute of it. Most of us here are probably in a similar financial boat, and no one really judges anyone else; we're neighbors, we're fellow human beings, and that seems to be good enough for most everybody around here.

As far as your subject line, however, I have seriously considered asking some of my neighbors whether THEY might need some food. Haven't done so yet, but the thought has occurred to me, especially with all the snow we've been having and it might be hard for the elderly to get out. I will put my money where my mouth is; thank you for brining it back to my attention!

t.

[asdjrocky]

23. Here's what you do, here's how you say it-

"My roomie bought too much stuff for the freezer and I have no room for it..." Let them know you guys got a good deal, ask them if they can use it, you know, neighbor to neighbor.

If you've got a car, and your going to the store, ask them if they need anything. If they try to give you money tell them it's easier if you just put it on your atm and they can catch you later.

Grow vegetables and herbs and fruits if you can and then give them to people until they tell you to stop, they almost never do tell you to stop.

Ask the old folks that have been there forever to tell you about the neighborhood, how it was then. They love to do that, they're proud of their time there.

I do all of these things and I've been amazed at the good, the real honest good, that comes out of me and the people in my neighborhood.

Love your hood.

Peace

[proudohioan]

26. Thank you, asdjrocky!

As far as the grocery store runs, I will do just that.

As far as a garden? Well, not so much....disappointing in some ways; we have some really huge Oak and Buckeye trees in our yard, great for shade, not so great for a garden. My youngest son was kind of disappointed, but what can you do? Cut down the probably 100 year old trees?

Again, thank you for your suggestions as well as your posts.


:yourock:

[Fire1]

27. You and the people in your 'hood' are going to have to

re-invent yourselves if you ever want to work again. It's just that simple. The manual labor jobs of this past century are NO MORE!
THE END, DONE AND FINISHED!! When you people WAKE UP TO THAT FACT, you'll be alot better off and start MOVING FORWARD instead of living in the PAST!

That sorry meme about this being a depression has totally played out and NOBODY is listening! Right, especially not the WH, Congress, the media and ANYBODY ELSE you want to name.

[asdjrocky]

33. But you'll listen.

That's all that matters to me. :hi:

[Fire1]

42. Ok. You got me. But on a serious note. Start urging people

to take advantage of the loans and scholarships available to go back to school. Even getting on the No Worker Left Behind list. Neighbors bitching to one another isn't going to put food on the table no matter who is in the WH.;-)

[asdjrocky]

43. Finally got two guys going to school for sheet metal work.

It's a Union job if they can find one when they get out. We've got small wins all the time, good days and bad days.

I make noise, so people don't forget we're here, that's all.

You're points are all well taken.

[Fire1]

44. Good for you AND them!! How about those jobs for the

new nuclear reactor plants? Will they require sheet metal work? I'm not a contractor, so I wouldn't know.

[Clio the Leo]

8. looks good to me! NT

[Peacetrain]

17. Catch you later Clio..

[freddie mertz]

15. The failure of HCR and other issues will end up overshadowing all of this.

Some of the things you list are very important to the nation and to me personally.

But what voters are going to remember are the bailouts, healthcare, jobs, and war.

And right now, that is what seems to be killing us.

[Peacetrain]

16. Okay Freddie, are we going to let the Republicans roll us are we going to fight

I am in for the fight.. and reminding people how far we have come to keep them ginned up for the hard work ahead.

We are not getting any breaks, it is all on us and our Democrats. The Bedbugs are not going to give an inch.

Off to work.. catch you later

[freddie mertz]

19. I've been fighting all along. First fighting FOR the president, and lately, too often,

Fighting AGAINST the administration's sell-outs and inconsistencies in policy.

HCR was a disaster. And the "messaging" re the financial system and jibs has been confusing and weak.

The Democrats in the Senate, especially, seem to have failed us.

All I see there is disunity and weakness, surrender and confusion.

The WH has not been much better.

I can keep fighting, but my expectations are very much diminished as of late.

[Clio the Leo]

20. Fighting FOR the President? .....

.... seriously?

[asdjrocky]

24. It's his job to fight for us.

[Clio the Leo]

28. While we sit on our collective behinds?

Surely that's not what you're implying.

His JOB is to enact the legislation Congress passes. (Need me to quote the Constitution?)

We're on this train together and Congress wont do it "if the American people dont want it." Who's calling Congress more? Us or the teabaggers? Who's fighting to get our respective party elected? Us or the teabaggers?

He NEVER said "ok now that we've won, yall just hang out while I do everything."

[asdjrocky]

31. And we called.

And we wrote. And we called again. We watched the speeches, lived through the deadlock. And we called again. And we wrote again. I would venture to say most Duers are on a first name basis with at least one staffer for all of their Congressional reps. I know I am.

That sit on our behind crap is getting really, really old, and it's insulting to people that have spent years being active for causes they believe in.

No public option, forget about single payer.
DADT, when they get around to it, I guess.
Financial reform? No way that will ever happen, the WTO doesn't want it.
Jobs? Anything? Anything?

Tell me, is there anything President Obama has done wrong in your opinion? Or is everything someone else's fault?

[Clio the Leo]

34. ... and we fought with one another....

.... while the teabaggers marched on the Capitol. ..... twice.

The President dropped the ball on handling the message.

And WE (inclusive pronoun) fell into a collective stupor from which we occasionally awoke from long enough to argue with one another and then went back to sleep. I have no doubt that YOU called your respective elected officials, but with any movement, you need collective pressure. WE dropped the ball and let the Teabaggers (with their corporate help) steal the momentum.

But the game is not over.

This is not about ME .... this is not about YOU .... it's not about our (another inclusive pronoun) petty and trifling internet squabbling that wastes everyone's time and energy and accomplishes nothing but to further divide us and thus strengthen the GOP.

This is about US and how we intend to move forward.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/health-care-action-center/

[asdjrocky]

35. You didn't even bother to try to speak to one of my questions.

No matter, I expected as much.

You are walking through life, tone deaf to the pain that so many feel.

You'll never reach the people unless you at least pretend to feel their pain, hell even Bill Clinton knew that.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

37. that's telling it like it is. Thank you.

Perhaps someone in the WH is reading this. I sure hope so.

It is not too late. But it could be soon.

[polichick]

32. LOL - while he does EVERYTHING? You mean while he looks out for...

...big pharma, the insurance companies and Wall Street.

Looks like dutiful volunteers have finally caught on to the scam.

[freddie mertz]

40. Let's face it, the president had an army of supporters ready to fight for his policies.

But he and his idiot "political team" pissed it away from August onward.

We were rallying for him, trying to put pressure on those who opposed what we THOUGHT was his HCR plan.

Then the WH turned on US, called the efforts of many of us "retarded," etc.

They drove us away by betraying their own promises and calling us out for believing in them in the first place.

The president even denied his support for a public option.

It is the single worst political operation I have ever witnessed in my 40 plus years of activism.

[polichick]

41. I absolutely agree - and after 30+ years of activism I'm done working...

...for the party and won't contribute another dime - but always vote, and will be stuck with Dems until there is a viable new progressive party.

[Cha]

47. Yeah, that's what they do best..oh and complain that

it's not enough..not fast enough..not pure enough, etc etc etc.

[freddie mertz]

39. Yep. I was out there at the Town Halls in PA, in the ones that made the news.

Arlen was catching hell and came to State College, and we got a thousand or more people out there to support him and the HCR effort.

Freedomworks showed up with it truck and everything.

It was a great effort.

Doubt we could all these people out for the effort now.

[Armstead]

21. yeah winning the WH and having solid majorities in Congress is a real hardship.

[zipplewrath]

38. I understand, but

Really, you have to contrast and compare such lists with what would have been done by "anybody". Much of what you list is as much "aid to local/state governments" as it is any actual coordinated effort to move forward in and sort of "green infrastructure" environment. There's no small amount of corporate welfare buried in there as well. It's not all bad, but as I say, the question really is how much of this could any administration have claimed? The contrast and compare that with the "investment" in things like clean coal and new oil drilling.

[PurityOfEssence]

45. Yeah, and imagine what we could have done if we'd actually fought

We should have proposed direct governmental employment in a WPA kind of way. We should have proposed National Health and maybe bargained down to some ugliness with a SERIOUS Public Option.

And on and on and on.

[Cha]

46. It is absolutely Incredible!

Bravo to the Democratic Administration under President Obama and VP Biden:patriot::patriot:

[Number23]

48. A "green" web site gives the President kudos for a job well done, and folks on this board

STILL whine and complain that he hasn't done enough. What precisely is the point in doing that??

Why not protest to the (obviously stupid and idiotic) people who wrote the piece -- who appear to be backed by the Sierra Club -- and inform them that they don't know what they're talking about and don't they know that everything Obama and this administration does is either inadequate or terrible???

"This is a historic and unprecedented investment in clean energy, green jobs and green infrastructure,” is how Melinda Pierce, Sierra Club’s lead advocate for the bill and Deputy Director of National Campaigns reacted to the bill. “This monumental bill revolutionizes our government’s approach to clean energy and will finally transform our economy into something that works for the 21st century. With these investments and incentives in clean energy, efficiency and smarter infrastructure, we will be able to literally rebuild the American economy in a way that not only creates jobs but sets us on the path to a clean energy future.”

Clearly, Melinda you don't know what the HELL you are talking about despite your title, perceived education on the subject and obvious passion for what you do.

[opihimoimoi]

49. An Admirable List...K n R :o)

The GOPers sour the stew that is America...

They chose the Wrong POLARITY which means they are wrong going out the Gate...how they win is by Fooling Peeps

Bait and Switch Politicing...

Obama Rocks

[Bobbie Jo]

50. K&R

:kick: