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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:25 PM
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White House: Let's Let 'Dust Settle' On Health Care
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 02:25 PM by jefferson_dem
Ruh Roh -- :hide:

White House: Let's Let 'Dust Settle' On Health Care
Rachel Slajda | January 21, 2010, 2:11PM

The White House will move health care reform to the back burner, in order to "let the dust settle" after Democrats lost their Senate super-majority.

Asked today if health care was on the back burner, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said, "The president believes it is the exact right thing to do by giving this some time, by letting the dust settle, if you will, and looking for the best path forward."

He said the administration wanted to give Congress time to figure out their next move. He also noted that President Obama "has a very full plate" with financial reform, the economy, the wars and other matters.

"As the majority leader and speaker continue to look to the best way forward, the president has a very full plate," Gibbs said. "There's plenty of work for the president to do in the meantime."

"The president obviously knew from the beginning of this that finding a solution to a very complex problem would be a challenge," he said.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/01/white-house-lets-let-dust-settle-on-health-care.php
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:26 PM
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1. wow...jus....wow....FUCK!!!
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:27 PM
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2. Congressional Dems just handed the GOP a huge victory because they
can't or won't ease their 'lines in the sand' and work together.

I hate them all.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:28 PM
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4. I hate them all is right.
once they put this down, they will never come back to it. frauds and failures.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:47 PM
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17. I think they're going to do what Pelosi did after 2006's house victory and ask for more...
In 2007, even though the Congress could have tied Bush up in knots in Iraq, they did EVERYTHING that he wanted (that I can remember) and saying they can't do ANYTHING with a veto proof majority...

I think they've learned from Massachusetts is that this bill is NOT a vote getter, nor does it show Democrats as being very effective.

Seriously, as far as passing a bill goes, could it be any WORSE? At the very, very best, the good things marginally outweigh the bad things, and that's only if you're one of the 1/10th who would benefit from the bill.

That's not saying much.

I think they want to stretch it out for another election cycle and make us pay for it (again).

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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:27 PM
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3. goddammit
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:28 PM
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5. I don't think that is a terrible idea, actually.
Let Nancy Pelosi decide if they want to split up the legislation and send it back to the House.
Anyway, I thought lots of people around here wanted the bill to die so Obama can "start over". Health care reform may die a slow death. RIP health care reform, 2010.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:37 PM
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9. Right. the Kill the Billers had better be happy with this!
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:38 PM
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11. And they will SO take it up again in an election year!
Isn't that great?
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:06 PM
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23. Though I never firmly moved into that camp, for the record I must say:
None of the so called "Kill the Billers" on the left have been happy for a moment about how this has all come down. Virtually every (sincere) one of them has been heart broken to even think about having to oppose a Democratic sponsored health care reform initiative. Almost all were willing to compromise, and compromise again, and again after that, while people like Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson dug in their heels and said my way or the highway.

This is not a happy day for anyone who cares about health care in America, but "reform" is simply a word, using it does not make everything labeled with it acceptable. The Republicans have lots of "reforms" that they want to sell America on. Privatizing Social Security was billed as a reform also.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:30 PM
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29. Yeah, they have shit to say about this.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:22 PM
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36. I do
Breaking up the good parts of the legislation and having them passed as separate bills if possible would be a good idea. Considering the millstone that bill was going to be around our necks in November, aside from all of the structural implications it has which I won't get into again now, moving it to the back burner and letting people focus on other matters for the time being is a good call.

Also, considering today's Supreme Court decision, I am even *more* against subsidies to private insurers now than before. No sense letting them buy elections with our taxpayer money. Make them earn those bribes themselves!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:40 PM
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13. She said it will be done "this year."
I am sooo mad right now, but I guess there weren't enough strong Dems. in the House to pass the Senate bill with a "patch" to fix things they really didn't like.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:45 PM
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15. That is what they should have done. But House liberals are against passing
the Senate bill as are House centrists for different reasons. So they should split it up in pieces....or do nothing, which looks like total failure.
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:30 PM
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6. Sounds the smartest move leave it to 2011 then folks may have the incentive to ...
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 02:31 PM by ProgressOnTheMove
a least give us 2 seats up and take Lieberman out of contention.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:36 PM
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7. Unfortunately, the dust is settling
on Barak Obama's presidency. It's time to brush the dust off and start punching.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:37 PM
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8. We may never get a health bill. Every time
we hear about it they have dropped something in it to appease Republicans or those hyenas known as Blue Dogs. We would have ended up I suppose with a health bill about 20 words long that said Folks you are on your own. . .
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:38 PM
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10. Is the settling dust that powder we were keeping dry earlier?
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:39 PM
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12. ...................
But he looks good in a bathing suit !!!!!!!!!!!!!


:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:44 PM
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14. ...and on the coffins. n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:47 PM
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16. I JUST watched Gibbs answering the "back burner" question. He said it does NOT mean HCR is on
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 02:53 PM by jenmito
the back burner. Bad reporting. They left out these words in Gibbs' quote when answering if this means the President is putting healthcare on the back burner: "No. No, again, I repeat simply that the president believes it is the exact right thing to do by giving this some time, by letting the dust settle, if you will, and looking for the best path forward."
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:55 PM
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18. I think it means they don't know which way they will go yet.
Jen, I still hope they find some way to pass something related to healthcare. At the very least regarding pre-existing conditions since I have one.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:58 PM
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20. I agree. Gibbs also said we've come too far to not pass anything.
And so do I-hope they find some way to pass something as I have a pre-existing condition, too.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:39 PM
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30. And last night on the Ed Show,
Gibbs insisted that Obama never campaigned on the public option, either. I think I'll take anything Gibbs says with a big old salt lick at this point.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:06 PM
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22. Thank you jenmito!
Facts are an awesome thing to have!

I didn't think this sounded right.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:10 PM
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26. No problem. The article completely misrepresented what Gibbs actually said by leaving out
a few "little" words.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:10 PM
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27. FUCK THE M$M!!!!!
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:57 PM
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19. Translation:
Eventhough we are in power, we will assume the rethug position instead of lead. We are weak, we are pathetic..we are democrats!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:02 PM
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21. I wonder why the writer of the article said the opposite of what Gibbs said...
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 03:04 PM by jenmito
Gibbs said, in response to if this means healthcare is on the back burner, "No. No, again, I repeat simply that the president believes it is the exact right thing to do by giving this some time, by letting the dust settle, if you will, and looking for the best path forward." Why did she leave out the part I put in bold print? The article's first line is, "The White House will move health care reform to the back burner, in order to "let the dust settle" after Democrats lost their Senate super-majority."
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:09 PM
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24. More on this from Schumer via TPM...
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 03:10 PM by flpoljunkie
Schumer: We'll Make No Reform Before Its Time. And Time Is Running Out

Evan McMorris-Santoro | January 21, 2010, 1:18PM

Speaking to reporters this afternoon, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said Senate leadership is still considering what to do about health care legislation in the wake of the Massachusetts Senate election. But he said that whatever plan is agreed on, Democrats want health care off the table by March.

Speaking to reporters this afternoon, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said Senate leadership is still considering what to do about health care legislation in the wake of the Massachusetts Senate election. But he said that whatever plan is agreed on, Democrats want health care off the table by March.

"I don't think we want this to go on for three more months," he said. "You have to make a decision." Schumer said that Democrats are making sure to rush a plan on reform and said that "it will take a few days" for the caucus to come up with plan to pass health care reform without their supermajority.

Reconciliation is one of a few options under discussion, Schumer said. But he said that "concerns about the political climate" make that plan less than appealing to some Democrats. "It's one of the considerations," he said when asked if Democrats worry voters will react badly to a health care bill passed with through reconciliation.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/01/schumer-well-make-no-reform-before-its-time-and-time-is-running-out.php?ref=fpa
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:23 PM
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28.  Schumer: We'll Make No Reform Before Its Time. And Time Is Running Out
THAT'S good to hear. Thanks.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:09 PM
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25. because they have an agenda
always do. How many articles have you seen reporting the end of the Health Care Bill... over the last 6 months
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:24 PM
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37. What do you suppose TPM's agenda is?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:08 PM
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33. The 'author' of this dribble is a "TPM News writer", in other words...
a blogger giving a deliberately misleading interpretation of what was said with NO affiliation to anything but TPM.

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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:48 PM
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31. At some point you have to look at the possibility that any piece of paper that says health care
is not reform and isn't progress, not even incrementally.

At best the Senate bill spreads the agony and allows more to be inflicted while protecting the upper middle class and the rich from medical liability. The worst will sound like hyperbole to many so I'll leave it alone for now.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:56 PM
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32. Well I've been pressing for the White House to get involved
and now I wish they hadn't. :wtf: :banghead:

:grr:
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:40 PM
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34. They must think we are stupid. And can you blame them? nt
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:40 PM
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35. So I guess the new tactic is to allow more people to go bankrupt
and die in the hope the wingnuts will come around and realize they've been had by big insurance and big pharma. It's funny how fast people get the single-payer religion once their own family is affected.
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