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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:18 AM
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NY-01: New SUSA Poll Shows a Dogfight, But Almost No Young Voters in Sample
SurveyUSA for Firedoglake (1/16-18, likely voters):

Tim Bishop (D-inc): 47
Randy Altschuler (R): 45
Undecided: 8
(MoE: ±4.1%)

First of all, there is a pretty glaring peculiarity from this poll: it contains almost no young voters in its sample. Voters between the ages of 18-34 make up exactly 1% of its sample. Look: I wouldn't be surprised if the youth vote is severely depressed in November, but that seems a little extreme. (Similarly, SUSA's AR-02 poll had a 5% sample of young voters, and 3% in OH-01.)

I have no interest in discussing the healthcare portions of this poll (and neither should you), but the top lines are still worth having a look at. Critics of a poll like this might point to an Altschuler internal poll from mid-November that had Bishop ahead by 46-26. However, I think you can defensibly argue that the environment has gotten weaker for Democrats in the interim. Remember, this is not a deep blue district -- Obama only won Bishop's CD by 52-48. Moreover, this is one of the few races that have actually been engaged: Altschuler went on the air in late December with blistering ads hitting Bishop on his TARP votes. Still, the lack of young voters here seems like a pretty glaring weakness of SUSA's likely voter screen. I would suspect that a more realistic model would give a few extra points to Bishop, but that still wouldn't be enough to say that he's out of the woods.

http://www.swingstateproject.com/diary/6249/ny01-new-susa-poll-shows-a-dogfight-but-almost-no-young-voters-in-sample
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:00 AM
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1. Could their sample be "Likely Voters".
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Irish_shark Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:12 AM
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2. You predicted Coakley would beat Brown by 4%
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 07:13 AM by Irish_shark
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:30 AM
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3. Um I'm not a pollster I just made a guess.
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 07:47 AM by ccharles000
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:30 AM
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4. failpost
let's see your track record, Einstein.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:34 AM
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5. Looks like SurveyUSA wants to make waves in the MSM today...
by intentionally undersampling the younger votes....its a smart strategy for this company to do for the sake of more exposure....as for integrity...not so much.
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