What can the Democrats do now about HCR?

[FVZA_Colonel]

I know that there's been talk about things like reconcilliation or having an immediate vote on the Senate version, but with Even Bayh already running for the hills (http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/01/bayh-dems-are-in-denial-about-massachusetts-senate-race.php?ref=fpblg), and I'm betting more "Blue Dog" pricks to follow, what would be the best strategy for getting HCR passed?

[here_is_to_hope]

1. Same thing they have been doing, giving away the store.

Nothing changes really.

[Moondog]

3. It's over.

Circling the bowl ....

[PolNewf]

2. It is dead

I'd say 5% chance they ping pong it in the next few days, 5% they pass the senate bill, 5% chance they convince snow after they give up the farm and a 85% chance Repugs will block everything from here on no matter what and then paint the Dems as do-nothings.

Look at how Repug obstructionism has paid off so far. You have people bitching about Obama not doing anything on a Democratic message board FFS. People here should know better but I see frequent posts ignoring senate realities. It plays even better with the less informed electorate. Better again when you have the "true progressives" teaming up with the Repugs.

[FVZA_Colonel]

5. I know it's a small chance, but God I hope Reid fucking grows a spine and doesn't seat Brown

until the deadline on the 29th or passes it through reconciliation.

Of course, he's never done so before, but it's at least something.

[WeDidIt]

4. It's dead

Massachusetts killed Health Care tonight.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

6. Right here. It's fairly easy:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7505855

[PolNewf]

7. That is what they should do but I doubt the House will go along

The House will go into survival mode now after tonight, ensuring their demise.