Harold Ford Jr. wants to run against the current Democrat Senator in NY State WHAT!!!!!!!

[bigdarryl]

According to Joe Madison.I haven't gotten a link on this yet can anyone verify this? Ford is a Blue dog Dem WTF!!!!

[ErinBerin84]

1. they have been asking him about it on Morning Joe all morning

and he is being coy and saying he "hasn't decided yet" and he's considering what "donors are telling him to do" or some bs. Like I said in another thread, now in addition to Morning Joe being promo vehicles for Joe and Mika's book, now they are going to really pump up Harold Ford JR for senate. Ugh.

[Pab Sungenis]

2. Harold Ford is beyond blue dog.

He's approaching magenta.

[alsame]

3. Chairman of the DLC. nt

[AzDar]

4. Fuck Harold Ford and the DLC.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

11. May I give that sentiment --

a hearty second? :hi:

[stray cat]

5. New York State will make the final decision

and only DUers who vote in NY will have any say in the matter. The same goes for any state including conservative states which is why DU is always unhappy with dems in conservative states - the people in the state get to vote instead of DUers

[Armstead]

12. Um, this is a disc ussion board. That means discussing political races.

[vaberella]

6. Hell no. n/t

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

7. Ford was good for us... from Tennessee.

He's not good for us at all from New York. We can do a lot better there.

[butterfly77]

18. Exactly,what I was thinking when..

I heard this..

[tnlefty]

22. Us? Strange, I always thought that we Tennesseans deserved

MUCH better than Ford.:shrug:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

23. Tennesseans weren't getting any better than Ford.

Unless you can prove me wrong and show me a true progressive that's won the state since Al Gore ran for the Senate (and I'm not entirely sure he would've qualified under that tag back then either).

[tnlefty]

40. You're correct, because every member of the TN delegation,

except Stephan Cohen, is a damned Blue Dog, who only lends to the ideology of the repukes. I said we deserve better, and we do. When do I get the privilege of being heavily involved in elections in your state? Do I get to determine that some Blue Dog a$$hole who will sell out your state is the best choice for you?

I distinctly stated that Tennesseans DESERVED better than Harold Ford, Jr.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

46. I never said I had any "privilege".

But the fact of the matter is that only Blue Dogs seem electable in Tennessee and I'd rather have Ford as Senator than Lamar Alexander - I'd certainly hope you'd agree on that. Once you prove that you can elect a progressive, that's when you deserve better than Harold Ford, and not one second sooner, frankly.

[BeyondGeography]

8. Yeah, it's insane...here's a link

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/06/nyregion/06ford.html?hp

Fuck off, Harold.

[LiberalFighter]

9. There must be other more qualified than Ford in NY.

[freddie mertz]

10. Very much to the right of the already too-far-right Dem centrist's club.

He was also a frequent guest on Don Imus' race-baiting pre-Morning Joe show.

A vey bad match for NY.

[RepublicanElephant]

13. i trust newyorkers will not allow this travesty. nt

[Sebastian Doyle]

29. Well, they let a DLC carpetbagger take that senate seat before.

so who knows? I hope not.

[burning rain]

14. He may as well run.

Only legislation pleasing to conservative Democrats comes out of the Senate anyway, so what's another?

[themaguffin]

15. on Joe he said "Dems shouldn't be afraid to go center" Fuck you Herald.

Just fuck off, how fucking stupid do you think we are? The Democrats are already on the fucking center.

What the hell.

[bigdarryl]

16. Yeah Herold how did that going to the CENTER shit work for you in Tennessee

they went racist on your ass so you wouldn't win. CENTER my ass your color played a more important roll in that race

[LiberalAndProud]

20. No kidding. Afraid to go center?

We'd have to move the the left to get to the center. That message is dead. DEAD. dead. I am sick and tired of moving closer to Republican policies because why? Because the populist message just wasn't effective?

Harold should switch parties before he runs, thanks very much.

[SharonAnn]

32. Harold isn't in the Center. He's on the right. He's CONSERVATIVE not Moderate.

[Jamastiene]

36. Exactly

[butterfly77]

17. WTF!!

This republicon is in their to obstruct or the put another CON in there. Get the fuck out of here FORD!!!

[JVS]

19. Attack of the DLC douchebags!

[TheKentuckian]

21. Gillibrand is too liberal for the DLC

as I tried to advise folks that flipped their wigs over her because she supports 2nd amendment rights.

They'll be trying to stack up centrist all over the place while the left fights over issues that have nothing to do with the corporate pincher move that we're being squeezed with from all directions.

FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!!

[jenmito]

24. Gillibrand will be getting MY vote as well as the vote of the majority of NY voters.

[michaz]

39. And mine too! n/t

[w4rma]

25. In the primary?? Good! Now lets get a good progressive in the primary, too. (nt)

[jenmito]

28. Gillibrand IS a good progressive. n/t

[w4rma]

42. Is she a member of the DLC, a member of the blue dogs, or is she a "good progessive"? Which one? nt

[whistler162]

45. She's a Democrat!

If you don't like her don't vote for her..... OH WAIT you can't.

[Umbral]

26. If Tennessee won't buy his conservative bullshit what makes him think it will sell in New York?

Good luck Capt Delusion.

[tledford]

27. Do you mean *Democratic* Senator?

There is no such thing as a "Democrat Senator."

[stevenleser]

31. Good catch. Very interesting. Worth looking into.

Could be a typo or rushing error...

[Cha]

30. If this is true ..I'd say, "stay off the whatever

you're on, harold".

[davidpdx]

44. No doubt

Gerald Ford is dead and could still get more votes then Harold Ford.

[IndianaGreen]

33. Kirsten Gillibrand supports marriage equality for LGBTs. Ford is a homophobe!

I almost expect Ford to travel to Uganda to watch gays being executed.

[mstinamotorcity]

34. Harold Ford couldn't take it

If he can't make it there in old New York what will he do? He got his ass tore up in Tennessee.And contrary to his light skin it was not light enough for the political scheme of things down yonder.So he politely moved himself where he would be among st the melting pot of society to get elected.Harold Ford is trying to capitalize on the center right issue so he can give the illusion that he is able to work across party lines.As of late no Democratic member has been able to achieve that.And New Yorkers are not that stupid.It just gets me that they just keep throwing s--t on the wall waiting to see if it will stick.Haven't they realized that its all over their fingers with that one.

[Jamastiene]

35. I remember reading about neocons when I first got online.

It said many Blue Dog Democrats were neocons too. I thought it was a conspiracy theory...back then.

In the article, it said Blue Dogs would eventually get so much power in Congress, that they would start taking over normally liberal strongholds. I thought that was a conspiracy theory too...back then.

I don't think it was a conspiracy theory now. It's looking more and more true as time goes on. I wish I could find the link. It was from way back in 1997 or 1998.

[thatsrightimirish]

37. Gillibrand is against discrimination

Ford can't stand that

[IndianaGreen]

38. Ford has fantasies of gays being executed in Uganda

He is a major POS.

[tnlefty]

41. Yes, he is. As a party loyalist I actually worked for him.

Captain 5'4" won anyway, but I still worry about the Karma.

edit: I won't make that mistake for 'the party' again

[annabanana]

43. Harold Ford?. . . in New York?

I don't think so.

I don't think he's up to the job. NY is a complicated place.