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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 11:21 PM
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Chavez orders money changer raids for currency crash
(Reuters) - Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez said on Friday authorities were set to raid money changers and close websites listing exchange rates, his latest bid to stop the crashing bolivar currency.

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Venezuela's foreign exchange market is already paralyzed after the government moved to end speculation and stem the fall of the bolivar with new rules some economists fear will cause economic turmoil.

Under a reform passed by legislators on Thursday, the central bank will oversee all transactions in the market where the bolivar is traded freely via securities.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64D6OR20100514

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 11:24 PM
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1. Sort of like Jesus. nt
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ChangoLoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:26 AM
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2. A double edged Jesus who at the same time provides the dollars that are being changed :)
Ask yourself: where do the cherished $$$ come from in Venezuela? Oil maybe?


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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:23 AM
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3. Don't be insulting.
Venezuelan money is created out of thin air, just like everywhere else except for the limited amount of coinage with some actual value that remains in circulation. (No, I'm not a gold bug, but I do realize that paper money has no intrinsic value and that governments actually can and do make as much as they want, or think they can get away with.)
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protocol rv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:54 AM
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4. Very interesting conversation but....
This paper money being created out of thin air is actually printed, it is used by real Venezuelans to buy real food and pay real medical bills and buy real bus tickets. And as inflation rages, the working class, the poor, are the ones who suffer the most. Real consumption has been dropping - meaning even though there is a lot more of this papar money but there is less being produced, so the prices go up and up and up.

In a country where the productive capacity is destroyed by nationalizations and energy shortages, this type of inflation is to be expected when the government pumps even more paper onto the streets, in an atempt to sustain its popularity as the elections approach. The excess paper money allows individuals who want to import goods to offer more Bolivars for the dollar denominated bonds the government offers in the parallel market. But the government has been reducing the amounts of bonds it puts on offer, because the dollars to back those bonds come from PDVSA earnings, and national cash reserves held in US dollars. As PDVSA's earnings drop (or maybe Chavez takes the money and sends it abroad to Cuba and other client states?), there's less ability to feed this bond market. And this means there are lots of Bolivars chasing the few bonds available. And this in turn drives the offer prices, which weaken the Bolivar and make Chavez mad, because a weaker Bolivar means even higher inflation, which they in turn stoke by printing more Bolivars.

Get it? It's an avalanche of bolivars raining on us, misallocated bolivars because they are aimed at their clients - and not everybody is a government flunky or gets their cash. So this leaves a lot of people in dire straits, there are the unemployed from the nationalized businesses, the little guy who can't make a living anymore because his business uses imported material, the worker in a factory which closed a shift because the power rationing mandated it, the old retired lady whose retirement check hasn't been changed even though inflation is running at over 30 % per year, and so on. And this is why the government's popularity is dropping among the working class, and the same poor they claim to be serving.

As for the middle class, it is under attack, the hostility and hatred expressed by the red-clad penguins surrounding Chavez is very evident. Even if they don't feel it, it's their dogma now to be marxist radicals, and to hate the most productive sectors of society. So the middle class is hunkering down, reducing its activity, afraid of doing anything which may be seen as "profitable" because this means the government will descend upon you like a vulture and steal your property.

And this is what is going on right now. And yet you wonder, why is Chavez losing popularity?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 09:17 AM
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5. You do seem to enjoy talking to yourself, belaboring the obvious, and being insulting, too. nt
Edited on Sat May-15-10 09:18 AM by bemildred
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protocol rv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 09:49 AM
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9. Ah, but I don't insult you guys
Let us set the protocol straight. I can insult third parties, politicians, news media, and famous actors. This is ok under the rules. I can't insult you. Unless you happen to be a red clad penguin living in Venezuela, I haven't insulted you, I just designated in a colorful way the nature of the people who surround our dear, honored president, who I am sure, if he realized the awful truth, would fire them and get honest people like me to help him :-)
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ChangoLoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 10:04 AM
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6. Why insulting? Dollars provided by oil exports aren't Venezuelan money
but the only way to receive merchandises from abroad for a country like us. When I write $$$ I mean US dollars, not Venezuelan bolivares. Your simplification could work at some level for the US economy which pays its imports in its own currency, not for Venezuela. The monetary system of an oil exporting country is highly atypical and galaxies away from what you can see in zeitgeist (for example). Plus.. we're talking about the parallel change market here, not about money creation.
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ChangoLoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 10:17 AM
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7. You do understand that the Venezuelan govt can't print US dollars don't you?
What money being created out of thin air are you actually talking about? We're talking about a parallel market for US dollars here.
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protocol rv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 09:46 AM
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8. I don't think she gets it due to cognitive dissonance
Can't gather and process information contrary to her deeply held beliefs. Many of us suffer from this condition.
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protocol rv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 11:23 PM
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10. Chavez saves the day
I hear they're going to have bands set up by the National Bank so we can trade bolivars in the black market at a decent price. Now all we need is for the national bank to issue lots of bonds paying 14 % interest so the market will work, and we need to convince Sean Penn and all those famous Hollywood actors who like the Chavez government to come here and invest their fortunes buying Venezuelan bonds. Anybody got Sean's email so I can show him how much it would help us?
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