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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:22 PM
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Cuba Gives Citizens 2 Months to Register Guns
Source: FOX

HAVANA — Cuba has declared a two-month amnesty for citizens to register unlicensed guns, and says those passing aptitude and psychological tests will be allowed to keep their weapons.

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Starting Feb. 12, Cubans will have the "exceptional and one-time only" chance to register their guns with police, and will be allowed to keep them provided they are over 18 and have passed the proper tests administered at police stations.

There was no explanation for why the drive to legalize unlicensed weapons is coming now, though the state-run news agency Prensa Latina said the move grew out of a November 2008 law regulating possession of guns and ammunition.

According to a weekend bulletin carried by state news media, gun owners must "maintain conduct consistent with the appropriate norms of social behavior, meet security and protection conditions for the firearms and pay established taxes."


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,584480,00.html



WHAT!!!111!!!???

The contingent of DU's Cuba "experts"* tell us that Castro banned guns and took them all.



experts* - who have never set foot on the island, but have the urge to post anti Cuba propaganda and BS.






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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:33 PM
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1. Don't be ignorant.
Edited on Mon Feb-08-10 04:37 PM by OneTenthofOnePercent
Castro did ban guns. He even encouraged registration his first few years in power. Eventually, registration was closed and only registered guns were legal. It was cute 'n' all... until Cuba decided to go around door--to-door confiscating the guns that people had so eagerly registered. Now, the the overwhelming majority of LEGAL guns in cuba are held by officers or state officials and must be secured at the stations/armories when on leave or vacation. This registration is designed to register all of the illegal and imported weapons from the last 40+ years that have turned up or been improvised.

How soon we forget.
Castro did ban guns and they did have gun confiscations thereafter.
It's called history - it's not an opinion.
Don;t be ignorant.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:36 PM
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2. Ignorant? .1%, I've lived in Cuba.
Edited on Mon Feb-08-10 04:38 PM by Mika
You?

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8925886

There was no explanation for why the drive to legalize unlicensed weapons is coming now, though the state-run news agency Prensa Latina said the move grew out of a November 2008 law regulating possession of guns and ammunition.

According to a weekend bulletin carried by state news media, gun owners must "maintain conduct consistent with the appropriate norms of social behavior, meet security and protection conditions for the firearms and pay established taxes."

While Cuba is among the safest countries in the hemisphere, it is not unusual to find firearms in Cuban homes













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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:42 PM
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5. And you owned firearms?
Were legal firearms outside of the police common?
It is historical fact that the Cuba governemnt used such registry lists were used to "persuade" people into turning firearms.

"While Cuba is among the safest countries in the hemisphere, it is not unusual to find firearms in Cuban homes, though most are weapons improvised from household materials or guns that were smuggled into the country and bought on the black market."
-Miami Herald

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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:46 PM
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7. Cuba has one of the largest /capita Citizen Defense operations. Citizens keep the small caliber ...
Citizens keep the small caliber weapons at home. Seen it w/my own eyes.

The Miami Hairball (or the AP) isn't really a good source of accurate info when it comes to Cuba.





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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:50 PM
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8. Do you have references to cite for this?
I'm interested in reading more about this (and other) cuban gun laws/programs/history.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:01 PM
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14. I'm not at my home computer, I'll try to dig some up later.
Although Cuba does perform annual island-wide Civilian Militia training, where they do break out the small and large weapons for training. There's usually a variety of web stories every year on this topic.


:hi:









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DissedByBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 09:41 PM
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29. Then I find it interesting that you felt it necessary
To cut off a Miami Herald quote to change the meaning from opposite of your statement to supporting it.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 05:20 PM
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31. Huh?
Are you replying to me? :shrug:













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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:59 PM
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11. So SAD! I was wanting to tell him/her you've been back and forth, have worked there, have loved ones
there now.

How damned sad!

How do people think Cubans beat back the invasion, anyway, for chrissakes. The CITIZENS made a stand and defended their country because they DIDN'T WANT to be invaded by the US, or by the same guys they had already overthrown. They did it with guns, too.

Maybe some of them were frightened away by the stilt walkers.

http://www.stockphotopro.com.nyud.net:8090/photo-thumbs-2/A4CRGA.jpg http://lh5.ggpht.com.nyud.net:8090/_jEIY5jVlKKo/RjXlnqP19yI/AAAAAAAAARo/eI-gOzb5ccc/42-16721087.jpg http://www.london-se1.co.uk.nyud.net:8090/news/imageuploads/1184364979_62.49.27.213.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com.nyud.net:8090/3048/2601585130_655e82eb8f.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com.nyud.net:8090/207/522361600_c356ed5caf.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com.nyud.net:8090/2335/1579973665_43a36d3198.jpg
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:13 PM
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17. Well Judi, I am ignorant of the Playa Giron stilt walkers.
;) ;)



:hi:












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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:51 PM
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23. this poster is ignorant of Cuban history
For the 50th anniversary of Moncada, I personally interviewed a Colonel in the Cuban army, he participated in numerous battles and strikes during the Revolution in the city of Havana, he still lives in Miramar and he keeps his handgun and he is not afraid to admit it. Of course, he was tortured under Batista, and he was always on the side of the Revolution.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:39 PM
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3. Cuba has no respect for the Constitution! n/t
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:52 PM
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9. Nor does idiots who own guns!
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:01 PM
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13. Who's Constitution? Do they have gun ownership rights?
Just asking, I always assumed they didn't.
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:39 PM
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4. This has been discussed to death in the gunegon.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:43 PM
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6. Looks like it veered off to an NRA discussion.
Interesting that the contingent of DU's Cuba haters have been telling us that Castro rounded up all the guns.

Turns out to be (always was) not true, and Cubans can and do own guns. {Been there. Seen it.}









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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:56 PM
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10. as usual...
thanks for setting us straight.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:59 PM
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12. Someone is not telling the truth here, from the NRA
Edited on Mon Feb-08-10 05:03 PM by doc03
propaganda I have heard over the last 45 years all guns were confiscated when Castro took over. Now we hear they want to register guns, something doesn't add up. If they were all confiscated and it was illegal to buy, sell or own guns how is it they have guns to register now? I could say the same for Iraq, I was under the impression Saddam confiscated all the guns in Iraq years ago yet it seems every Abdul and his Uncle has a gun and IEDs in his pantry.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:05 PM
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16. Cuba is NOTHING like the dark & oppressive place US propaganda depicts.
Edited on Mon Feb-08-10 05:06 PM by Mika
Nothing.

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I guess the Cubahaters think that Castro forces good health care and good education on an unwilling populace. :rofl:










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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:16 PM
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18. I remember the day when Russia was our bitter enemy,
we were even led to believe all their women looked like Earnest Borgnine in drag, now we have Anna Kournikova. Same with China, the Chinese all wanted to invade the USA with human wave attacks until we ran out of ammunition to defend ourselves. All of that changed when Wall Street decided they wanted a cheap labor force to break the Unions.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:31 PM
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21. In Cuba every vocation and profession is represented by unions. n/t
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:19 PM
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19. I think the only reason we backed Castro in the first place
was to get Cuba out of the gambling resort business so the mob could make money in Las Vegas.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:31 PM
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22. No doubt everything they made there was tax-free, since Fulgencio Batista
used Cuba's money to cover half the expense of building their hotels/casinos, and his brother-in-law made the rounds nightly to pick up their "skim".

Putting it all back in the US would bring in a huge amound of revenue for the US government, even if they continued skimming, as they did, for a long time.

Hadn't thought of that before, no doubt you're right.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:02 PM
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15. Well here any Fox news watching pickle-head with less education than Jethro Bodine can own a gun
and decide for themselves the best use for for that weapon...I trust that they'll always make the wise intelligent enlightened decision.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:28 PM
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20. Well, I own several guns, never watch Fox, and I am educated at least
as much as Mr. Bodine.
I also deny being a "pickle head".

I make what uses I will of my various weapons every day-I carry one of my several handguns concealed on my person.

Do I make wise intelligent use of them?

Trust me-I'm a Liberal.

I wish you and yours a very fine day.

mark
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:57 PM
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24. get fucking real
this is cuba, a country that has thrown people in reeducation camps for daring to criticize the govt, that has controlled tight access to musical instruments (music being "counter revolutionary) at times, that has imprisoned gays, and people merely for possessing AMERICAN DOLLARS (oh noes).

i love the "aptitude" and "psychological" tests. what do you possibly think they will ask on these "tests" in a country where dissent can get you thrown in the clink as a mental defective?

seriously

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:12 PM
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25. You've pulled out a charge we've never even heard before. Cool!
Controlled access to musical instruments? Cuba? The same place FAMOUS for music from one end to the other, non-stop, a place where visitors live to tell of walking down the streets and hearing music in the streets, coming from apartments, houses, corner groups, front steps, etc., etc., etc.?

A place with its own hip hop people, male and FEMALE hip hop groups? Music of ALL styles? Fabulous dancers? World famous native-born musicians? Where do you get your material? It's priceless.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:28 PM
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27. Castro forces Cubans to play Son...
.. and forces them to smile while they play and dance.











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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:15 PM
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26. Got some links for me to get fucking real with?
Seriously. (Please don't post CANF, the real cuba dot com or IRI funded Cubanet sources. BTW, AI, HRW, Dw/oB use Cubanet as their primary source. Thanks.)










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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 09:32 PM
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28. hey dude, we've got over a million political prisoners right here in the US.
something about living in glass houses...
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 09:48 PM
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30. Who'da thunk it? Cuba has more rational gun laws than the US?
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 05:31 PM
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32. Seems like most Cubans in Cuba have a different definition of freedom than Americans in America.
That being: Cubans expect of their freedom a participatory and representational gov't, and they work hard to make it so.

Seems like most Americans think freedom is represented by unregulated commerce,
and they are working hard to make it so.











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