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magbana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 08:09 AM
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Pictures of Torture Suffered by Pedro Magdiel Munoz Slavador . . .
very graphic. I posted this as a reply within another post but wanted to make sure people saw it, given the IACHR condemnation of Pedro's murder and the post today with Machetera's article about Billy Joya.

http://hondurasenlucha.blogspot.com/2009/07/honduras-fotos-del-cuerpo-del-joven.html
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Zorro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 08:46 AM
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1. IACHR was very careful NOT to blame the Honduran government directly
for this murder, probably because they are aware that they don't know who killed him or why.
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magbana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 09:06 AM
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2. No, Zorro. It's because there is no Honduran government in Tegu to
recognize, only a well-heeled nazi-thug frat party. But, in your effort to discredit a dead man, just know that Pedro will have far more impact on the situation than you. Would you like to take a jab at Isis Obed Murillo now? Silly of me, I'm sure you already have.
magbana

lunes 27 de julio de 2009

ACUERDO DE DUELO
El FRENTE NACIONAL CONTRA EL GOLPE DE ESTADO
por este medio expresa sus más profundas muestras de pesar y solidaridad con la familia de PEDRO MAGDIEL MUÑOZ SALVADOR, por el brutal asesinato de que fue objeto por los aparatos represores del régimen golpista el día 25 de julio de 2009.

Asimismo, manifestamos nuestra indignación por este y los otros crímenes perpetrados por los golpistas y reafirmamos que estos crímenes no quedarán impunes.

Declaramos a PEDRO MAGDIEL MUÑOZ SALVADOR “HÉROE DE LA RESISTENCIA POPULAR”.

Acordamos entregar este pronunciamiento a la familia de Pedro Magdiel Muñoz y reafirmamos que su sangre no fue derramada en vano y que su ejemplo alimentará el espíritu combativo, de dignidad y victoria del pueblo hondureño.


Tegucigalpa M.D.C 26 de Julio de 2009"
http://contraelgolpedeestadohn.blogspot.com/
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Zorro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 09:20 AM
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3. People get killed for a variety of reasons
as I mentioned in another thread. Perhaps he went to a soccer game.

This attempt to turn this dead guy into some martyr can very well be a Horst Wessel moment.

And I don't know why there is this obsession among the resident Chavistas to respond to my on-topic comments with a personal snark. You know that's not a wise course of action.
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magbana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 09:24 AM
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4. Maybe he went to a soccer game. Now that's SNARKY. I think the
main sports stadium in El Paraiso was filling up with detainees at the time that Pedro was killed. Zorro, you are a tough person and I'm sure you can more than handle whatever is thrown your way.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 11:54 AM
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7. If the last time you are seen alive, it is in the back of a police car,
then when your dead body is found should we suspect the police?

I think you picked up the wrong script.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 11:45 AM
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5. Jesus. I only saw the early photos of his smashed hands before this.Yeah, that was some soccer game.
He went to all the trouble to make that long trek to that border town to be there at the time Zelaya was expected to come across, to be part of the crowd of Hondurans turning out to support their elected President, but instead he veered off and went to a soccer game instead, contrary to what he told the people who knew him?

Thanks for posting the images. They only deepen indelibly perceptions of what has already been established. Score one gruesome, unworthy death, amid astounding spiritual loneliness and suffering for that young man who absorbed all that immoral excess by the right wing.

I'm certain they will use these images for unwholesome physical auto-erotic adventures. It's what makes life worth living for them. Maybe they'll sell the photos to other death-cult vampires and turn a hefty profit for themselves. You can be sure their follow-up is always to go where people are discussing these atrocities then make pompous, laughable denials.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 11:46 AM
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6. Rest in peace, Pedro Magdiel Munoz Salvador. n/t
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 03:45 PM
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8. Armed Police Infiltrate Funeral of Murdered Zelaya Supporter
Jul 25, 2009
Armed Police Infiltrate Funeral of Murdered Zelaya Supporter, Human Rights Abuses Mount in Desperate Attempt to Repress Popular Uprising

Honduras' military coup has murdered two demonstrators in the border area of Honduras, federal congressman Cesar Ham reported on Jul 25. The human rights organization, the Committee of Families of the Disappeared in Honduras (COFADEH) and other sources report that the body of Pedro Mandiel Muñoz was found with signs of torture following his arrest by coup security forces in Alauca, near the Nicaraguan border. Supporters of President Zelaya´s return are gathering there despite a military state of siege in the region. The organization notes that this brings the tally to six confirmed assassinations of Zelaya supporters.

As I am listening to the live transmission of the funeral over Radio Globo, the scene turns from somber to mayhem. The Radio Globo reporter at the funeral begins to run from the scene. The crowd has identified and captured armed police infiltrators, interrupting the burial. The fear in the voices is palpable. Radio Globo is calling for people to avoid violence despite the pain and rage, to deliver the police to justice. They report that a third police infiltrator has been captured. All you can hear is shouting as some seek to attack the infiltrators. Rafael Alegria exhorts to the crowd, "Our movement is peaceful... Do not attack them. We are going to remove them and deliver them to justice."

The police infiltrators have been taken into custody and disarmed. Alegria gives the names and says that the police are from the Direction of Criminal Investigations. "Who would send them into a burial when the people are already indignant..?", he says. "Our movement has proved that it is completely peaceful. We are protecting them so the people will not mistreat them even though we do not receive this treatment. This is a humane movement."

Alegria continues. "This is a direct provocation of the movement... We don't want any kind of confrontation."

Listening to the direct transmission, it is one of the most moving broadcasts I have heard. The reporters and interviewees are out of breath, and the calm voice of Rafael Alegria comes across, controlling the situation. Imagine the scene to get an idea of what this movement has accomplished at this very moment—in the burial service of a murdered countryman, they are forced to flee, leaving the coffin unburied, when armed police infiltrators are discovered. There is clear potential for a lynching. And it is controlled by experienced, committed, non-violent leaders that have the full respect of the people.

As Zelaya prepares to re-enter the country from Nicaragua, the entire zone is under 24-hour-a-day curfew and convoys of supporters have been blocked at over twenty checkpoints between Tegucigalpa and the border. AP reports,

"The Honduran armed forces, under orders from the de facto government, block the advance of Hondurans attempting to reach the border to meet Zelaya. The highways are infested with checkpoints and barricades. Some groups have evaded the checkpoints to reach their destination."

Many people, including Rep. Ham, have taken up the journey on foot. Radio Globo reports between three and five thousand supporters are gathered near the border.

Alegria himself was a victim of this repression just Saturday when the coup arrested him near Danli, despite cautionary measures issued for his safety by the Inter-American Court of Human Rights.M He was detained and then released due to pressure from the national and international community.

Desperation and Resistance
Alegria's arrest is emblematic of the attacks on movement leaders by a coup desperate to maintain power in the face of a popular uprising for a return to democracy. As a national leader and former International Secretary of Via Campesina, he coordinates growing global opposition to the coup and represents the determination to continue to oppose the military coup of thousands of Hondurans despite mounting risks. For the armed forces to detain a prominent national and international leader who was engaged in non-violent, unarmed protest and the exercise of freedom of expression and freedom of movement demonstrates the true face of the group of army and political leaders who simultaneously seek to convince the international community of the "legality" of their cause.

More:
http://americasmexico.blogspot.com/2009/07/armed-police-infiltrate-funeral-of.html
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 04:08 PM
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9. Yeah, you just can't be sure what the #### happened to this sojourner, can you?
####, no. Could have been drugs, yeah, that's it!

For people still living in the world where people respect the truth, from BoRev:

July 27, 2009
And You Thought Our Drug Laws Were Draconian

http://www.borev.net.nyud.net:8090/Crowd%20-%20Pedro%20Magdiel%20Munoz.jpg

By Revolter

Stop me if you've heard this story before:
1) Honduran coup government's security forces kill pro-Zelaya protester.

2) Honduran police anonymously admit to reporters that they or the military are responsible for the murders.

3) Micheletti and the gorillas tell police to STFU, officially deny any involvement, shamelessly blame own protesters for killing.

4) English language press somehow gives the coup regime the benefit of the doubt, even though they are proven pathological liars. They lightly report on the homicides, but bury part about how the coup government is responsible.

First it was Isis Obed Murillo. Despite the fact that the Honduran police blamed his shooting on the military, disgraced coup Minister Enrique Ortez and Otto Reich somehow managed to accuse his fellow protesters while maintaining straight faces. The English language press has still not called them out.

Pedro Madriel Muñoz avoided roadblocks to travel from Tegucigolpe and try to reach the border where Mel Zelaya is camped out. He didn't quite make it. On Friday, he and thousands of other Hondurans were stopped by police with tear gas and live bullets in El Paraiso, 7 miles from Nicaragua. Then Muñoz somehow showed up tortured and murdered on the side of a road (which also happens to be next to a military base) where the rest of the protesters could see his body. Central Americans know what this means. The US press thinks, "Gee maybe it wasn't the police/military. Let's wait for an investigation. Zelaya will be gone by then anyway. Muahahaha."

AFP's story in English: "Supporters of the ousted president accuse Honduran police of murdering the man."

AFP's story in Spanish (translated): "A Police official - who did not want to be identified - admitted to protesters and journalists in El Paraiso that the man was detained on Friday, but said it was for smoking marijuana, and maintained that he had been released afterwards."

The point? Fuck off AFP. And Reuters, AP, The NY Times, Miami Herald all of you, the end.

UPDATE: There are reports of a second murdered protester in El Paraiso, and another protester says that he was also tortured by the military.

UPDATE II: 200 activists, including 3 leaders of the resistance against the coup, have been detained by the military upon crossing the border from the Zelaya camp in Nicaragua back into Honduras.

Tags:
•Curfews
•Honduras
•Human Rights
•Murder

http://borev.net/
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 04:33 PM
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10. Take note they threw him out in the field next to the military base
as they WANTED him to serve as a message to others to run home as fast as possible, hide in the dark, trembling, and hope that ugly, slimy, smelly, portly, near-sighted soft little old man Goriletti doesn't send someone to kill them, too.
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