Guess Who Showed Up a Few Days Ago in Tegucigalpa -PEDRO CARMONA'S BROTHER, ROBERTO

[magbana]

Pedro Carmona was the de facto president of Venezuela during the 48 hours that Chavez was in jail during the 2002 coup.

cubadebate has an article today (spanish only) that says that a man by the name of Roberto Carmona checked into a Tegucigalpa hotel recently and signed in under the name of Armando Valladares. Valladares is a Cuban bad guy -- I won't go into details now -- and has recently been linked to the Human Rights Foundation. It could be that Valladares' name is on a credit card covering his room at the hotel and that's why Carmona signed in under that name. The article goes on to say that Roberto Carmona has been seen going in and out of the Honduran National Congress.

Looks like all roads lead to Tegucigalpa and all the coup plotters are headed in that direction.

Please go to cubadebate for the article (spanish only): www.cubadebate.cu

Stay tuned!

[EFerrari]

1. It's The NIght of the Living Dead @ssholes!

Armando Valladares -- former head of HRF in Bolivia, right? Money trail from him to assassins.

Holy cow. They really do have a network all over Latin America. I thought it was just my imagination. This is a war. :wow:

[magbana]

2. Ain't it the truth!! Its possible that its another Armando Valladares, but

either way, that name makes the Cubans, Venezuelans CRAZY!! This is a full court press. The people of Honduras do need help.

[EFerrari]

3. What is the resistance recommending we do?

Calling our reps is useless or mine, anyway. Pelosi couldn't care less what we think here.

Clinton is playing for the other team.

Who does that leave. I'm at a loss, really.

[Billy Burnett]

4. A coup.

Oh ... wait ... never mind.

[EFerrari]

5. One thing that in all of this that surprised me is the military.

I know there are right wing @ssholes at the top but you'd think there would be at least a few sane people or some in the ranks if nothing else. That's the real obstacle here. At least in Ven, the President's Guard remained loyal and eventually, enough generals turned. Poor Honduras.

/oops

[magbana]

8. The problem is that so many of these guys in the military are very

young and many come from families of little means. Being in the military is the best job that many of them have ever had. For these guys, rebelling isn't an option because they do not want to jeopardize their jobs. Since Zelaya is not in the country it makes it difficult for him to have much influence. The soldiers would be up the creek if they rebelled now and would be charged with treason/desertion and put before a firing squad. And we know there is no shortage of people who are happy to pull the trigger.

It's a very difficult problem.

[EFerrari]

9. It is difficult, and when you think about it, the military is one of the most

democratic institutions in the country. A young man of no means can move up the food chain.

There will be no movement without the military, as far as I can see. Hillary and Obama can talk until they're blue in the face and so can everyone else. The army is the key here and they don't seem to be moving.

[magbana]

6. i was talking to someone today and they said that various groups

including social organizations and indigenous groups are asking for people to come to Honduras -- delegations etc.

If you are on other lists such as this or a list serve, it would be good to send articles about what's going on.

Depending on how long this goes on, I'm thinking delegations going down may want to take to the people such things as clothing, medical supplies,etc. I'm sure there are people who came from rural areas to greet Zelaya and have not been able to get home because they are staying in Tegucigalpa to continue the resistance -- these people will probably need things if they continue to march in the streets.

Bottom line is that they need people to go there and if that is not possible, its a good idea to tell as many people about it as possible.

[EFerrari]

7. I'll spread it around. But most of us can't do that.

We need to consolidate our network as least as well as the vampires have so we can do some message managing of our own. We need infrastructure or the email equivalent of a phone tree. Something like that.

[Judi Lynn]

10. Valladares, a spectacular grifting liar, is a C.A.N.F. celebrity, and very big with right-wing

reactionaries here. They have used him obsessively, almost like a Cuban Sarah Palin.

If he's connected to this, it's a sure fire give-away the US mainstream right-wing political people are in this up to their gigantic snouts.

You recall how the country's most venomous, racist a-holes like Jesse Helms got deeply engrossed in Iran/Contra, Guatemala, etc. Rhey even brought their "religious" buddies, Pat Robertson, Jerry Fallwell.

Pedro Carmona is one lucky man Chavez is not vindictive. Carmona walked away from their attempted theft of the elected, POPULAR Presidency, and implacement of a true dictatorship completely unscathed, as if nothing had ever happened.

Looks as if there's a right-wing international tyrants' club at work every day scheming to steal control of a Latin America which has slowly been climbing out of the hell the fascists had them in in the first place.

[magbana]

11. BIG MEA CULPA- I SCREWED UP, It's not Carmona's Brother, but close enough

I got the initial report about this in a phone call from a friend. She told me it was Pedro Carmona's brother. It isn't, it's even better. The guy who showed up in Tegucigalpa is Robert Carmona Borjas, who is an attorney who specializes in military law and was an associate of Pedro Carmona, the illegal coup president in Venezuela. When the military went looking for Pedro Carmona to arrest him after Chavez returned, he was holed up in a vacant house with Carmona Borjas. Carmona-Borjas is vice-president of Arcadia Foundation.

Here's a little background on Carmona Borjas.

From Nicolas Kozloff's article, "Did the Infamous Otto Reich Have Anything to Do with the Coup in Honduras?"

Excerpt from article relating to Carmona Borjas:


The Mysterious Case of Arcadia and Robert-Carmona Borjas

Building up the case against Hondutel and Chimirri was none other than the Arcadia Foundation, a non-profit and anti-corruption watchdog that promotes "good governance and democratic institutions." For an organization that purportedly stands for transparency, the group doesn't provide much information about itself on its Web site. The two founders include Betty Bigombe, a Ugandan peace mediator and World Bank researcher, and Robert-Carmona Borjas, a Venezuelan expert in military affairs, national security, corruption, and governance. The Web site does not list any other staff members at its D.C. branch. Outside of the U.S., the organization has outlets in Spain, Mexico, Dominican Republic, Chile, Argentina, and Guatemala.

In his columns published in the conservative Venezuelan newspaper El Universal, Borjas has gone on the attack against Chávez. In recent months, he had expressed skepticism about Obama's foreign policy openness, particularly if it meant dealing with "totalitarian" figures such as the Venezuelan President. According to his bio, Borjas left Venezuela after the 2002 coup against Chávez and sought political asylum in the U.S.

Interested in knowing where Arcadia's funding comes from? You won't get any pointers from the Web site. Click on "In The Media" however and you get an endless list of Borjas' articles and links to news pieces related to Hondutel (and I mean endless: I saw about 70 articles before I got tired and stopped counting). There's no other published research on Arcadia's site, leading one to wonder whether the organization's sole purpose is to pursue the Hondutel case. There's no evidence that Borjas knows Reich, though given their common interest (or should I say obsession) in the Hondutel affair it seems at least possible that the two might have crossed paths.

In recent months, Borjas had driven his anti-Zelaya campaign into overdrive. As Weinberg has written, "The Honduran newspapers El Heraldo (Tegucigalpa) and La Prensa (San Pedro Sula) noted June 11 that Carmona-Borjas had brought legal charges against Zelaya and other figures in his administration for defying a court ruling that barred preparations for the constitutional referendum scheduled for the day Zelaya would be ousted. A YouTube video dated July 3 shows footage from Honduras' Channel 8 TV of Carmona-Borjas addressing an anti-Zelaya rally in Tegucigalpa's Plaza la Democracia to enthusiastic applause. In his comments, he accuses Zelaya of collaboration with narco-traffickers."

So, there you have it: the International Republican Institute, an enigmatic Washington, D.C.-based organization intent on driving back Hugo Chávez, an inflammatory former policymaker with business connections and a high profile effort to discredit Zelaya and the Honduran state telecommunications company. What does it all amount to? There's no smoking gun here proving U.S. involvement in the coup, but taken together, these stories smell to high hell and should warrant further investigation. Perhaps if the mainstream media can drag itself away from the likes of Michael Jackson and Sarah Palin, we can get a more thorough picture of the political tensions between Washington and the Zelaya regime in recent months."
http://blog.buzzflash.com/contributors/2011

[EFerrari]

12. No worries, magbana. There is a lot going on right now.

:loveya:

[magbana]

14. Thanks, EFerrari.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

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