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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:23 AM
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yet more stupidity from Chavez: "Radical group 'La Piedrita' is infiltrated by the CIA"

La Piedrita are his supporters in case you didn't know.

http://english.eluniversal.com/2009/02/11/en_pol_esp_chavez:-radical-gro_11A2222079.shtml

Chávez: "Radical group 'La Piedrita' is infiltrated by the CIA"
The Venezuelan ruler conceded that the revolution may be overturned if he is not in power

Hugo Chávez accused the opposition of devising a plan B called "Check the King" (Photo: ABN)

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Venezuela's President Hugo Chávez said on Tuesday that radical group La Piedrita has links with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) of the Unites States. "I have no doubts that the group has been infiltrated by the CIA. There are some people acting wrongly. They are acting in good faith but they have been used," warned Chávez in a TV broadcast from the Palace of Miraflores, the seat of the Venezuelan government, where the Venezuelan leader was presiding over the Cabinet of Ministers.

He is certain that "this radical group has been funded by the extreme right. We must neutralize it. We cannot tolerate machineries of war or terrorism that are also using the sacred name of the revolution."

The Venezuelan head of state seized the opportunity to hold the "leaders of the worn opposition responsible for promoting a sort of religious media war." He also warned that the opposition is devising a plan called "Check the King."

The ruler justified once again the need to run for a third time in 2013, recalling his former Cuban counterpart Fidel Castro who warned him "if they kill you, Chávez, or you have to leave your job, the revolution can be stopped because it would not have the strength to consolidate without you." Chávez said that "he was convinced that it was true, to a certain point. After that term, I want no more."


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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:42 PM
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1. in latin america is well known that extremist groups are infiltrated
used to take down popular movements
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:57 AM
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2. Chavez is a lot of things. Stupid is not one of them! He survived te Bush coup attempt!
Why are you on the attack?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 03:35 AM
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3. Now you're upset that Valentin Santana has been detained and Chavez is criticizing La Piedrita?
Not so long ago, you were upset that La Piedrita had been brawling with Banda Roja and was apparently involved in an tear gas attack on Vatican properties

But when La Piedrita's leader Valentin Santana is detained, and Chavez criticizes violence in general -- and La Piedrita in particular -- this upsets you even more?

You don't seem to be making sense, dude/dudette

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Bacchus39 Tue Jan-20-09 02:10 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=405&topic_id=11096

Venezuela detains 11 for attack on synagogue
www.chinaview.cn
2009-02-09 13:20:01
CARACAS, Feb. 8 (Xinhua) -- Venezuela has detained 11 people, among them seven police officers, for attacking a synagogue in the capital Caracas last month, authorities said ... Chavez ordered the Prosecutor's Office to detain Valentin Santana, leader of the pro-Chavez group La Piedrita, who was blamed for conspiring in the attacks on the synagogue and the Apostolic Nunciature in Venezuela ... http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-02/09/content_10787519.htm
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 09:01 AM
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4. you completely missed it I see. read the baseless accusation in the title
and yes there are many criminals among the Chavistas.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 03:05 PM
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5. Documents Show C.I.A. Knew of a Coup Plot in Venezuela (NYT / 2004)
By JUAN FORERO
Published: December 3, 2004

BOGOTÁ, Colombia, Dec. 2 - The Central Intelligence Agency was aware that dissident military officers and opposition figures in Venezuela were planning a coup against President Hugo Chávez in 2002, newly declassified intelligence documents show. But immediately after the overthrow, the Bush administration blamed Mr. Chávez, a left-leaning populist, for his own downfall and denied knowing about the threats ... http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/03/international/americas/03venezuela.html?_r=1
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 03:10 PM
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6. CIA Venezuela Destabilization Memo Surfaces (2007)
November 28th 2007, by James Petras

On November 26, 2007 the Venezuelan government broadcast and circulated a confidential memo from the US embassy to the CIA ...

The memo sent by an embassy official, Michael Middleton Steere, was addressed to the Director of Central Intelligence, Michael Hayden. The memo was entitled 'Advancing to the Last Phase of Operation Pincer' and updates the activity by a CIA unit with the acronym 'HUMINT' (Human Intelligence) which is engaged in clandestine action to destabilize the forth-coming referendum and coordinate the civil military overthrow of the elected Chavez government ...

The US operatives emphasized their capacity to recruit former Chavez supporters ...

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/2911
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 03:20 PM
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7. You disbelieve that the US is engaged in covert operations against Chavez? Or you
disbelieve that groups of "Chavez supporters" could be infiltrated?

You obviously have some strong opinion here, though it's not clear to me exactly what that opinion is
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