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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:20 PM
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Brazil confirms Lula will visit Bolivia and Venezuela next week
Brazil confirms Lula will visit Bolivia and Venezuela next week
Lula will meet with Morales next Thursday in the Bolivian city of Puerto Suárez and on the same day he will travel to Caracas
CARACAS, Friday January 09, 2009

Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva will visit Bolivia and Venezuela on January 15 and January 16 to announce integration projects and meet with Presidents Evo Morales and Hugo Chávez, confirmed the Brazilian Foreign Ministry.

Lula will meet with Morales next Thursday in the Bolivian city of Puerto Suárez and on the same day he will travel to Caracas, where he will hold his traditional quarterly meeting with President Chávez, reported EFE.

In Caracas, Lula and Chávez will meet again following their meeting last September in the Brazilian city of Manaus, where both governments announced seven agreements, including one to build a steel plant and other to build a binational refinery.

http://english.eluniversal.com/2009/01/09/en_pol_esp_brazil-confirms-lula_09A2187203.shtml
Opposition newspaper

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 05:26 PM
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1. The Chavez-da Silva alliance is a very interesting one.
Both have lower middle class backgrounds. Chavez was educated and acquired his leftist political philosophy in the military. Da Silva was a steel worker. From there they diverge on some things--Chavez is out to bust corporate power, especially that of the multinationals, and has successfully battled entities like Exxon Mobil, and has utter contempt for the Bushites. Da Silva is more likely to make deals with corporate powers, and even with Bushites. But they do seem to have some solid common ground, and a close friendship as well.

Their common ground is

1. Belief in unified political and economic action to promote the sovereignty of Latin American countries, and social justice goals. They both promote cooperation and integration.

2. Devotion to democracy.

3. Devotion to the common good.

Thus, you have da Silva countering the lie that Chavez is some sort of "dictator." ("They can invent all sorts of reasons to criticize Chavez--but not on democracy!" --Lula da Silva.) He has gone out of his way to defend Chavez on many occasions.

You have them acting in concert to fend off Bushite plots--such as the Bushite-instigated coup plot against Evo Morales in Bolivia, recently. You have them acting together not only to support Bolivia's democracy but also to help Morales out in other ways--for instance, their proposal to build a road across the continent, from Brazil's Atlantic coast, to the Pacific, through Bolivia, which will make Bolivia a major trade route.

You have their shared perception that the U.S. poses a threat to South America--for instance, da Silva recently said the the U.S. reconstitution of the 4th Fleet in the Caribbean is a threat to Brazil's oil reserves in the Altanltic. (It is clearly a threat to Venezuela, whose major reserves border the Caribbean, and to the Chavez government.)

You have their mutual desire for a common South American military defense--an idea proposed by Brazil and da Silva in the context of the new South American "common market"--UNASUR.

And you have any number of joint economic projects, which their regular meetings with each other are mostly about.

This cooperative spirit is wonderful to behold in South America. It's what should have happened more than a century ago, when Chavez's hero, Simon Bolivar, led the revolution against colonial Spain. U.S. domination, bloody interference and "divide and conquer" tactics, in collusion with local rich/fascist elites, prevented it, all this time. I wasn't sure about Lula da Silva, prior to circa 2006. Was he playing off Chavez vs. Bush, to benefit Brazil and his own fortunes? Would he betray Chavez, and help the evildoers undermine him and destroy democracy in Venezuela? Wwas he primarily interested in personal power, as the president of the biggest economy in South America? Etc. But I've come to the conclusion that he is a genuine friend and ally of Chavez and the other Bolivarians, and has heartfelt social justice goals.

South America's problem for so long has been "every country for itself." Divided, they are weak, exploitable and victim to corruption and fascist horrors. Together they are strong, and only together can social justice be achieved. Also, paradoxically, only together can they achieve sovereignty--the assertion of national interests and the will of the people in each country, versus powerful multinationals and the U.S. They need collective clout to deal with those who would exploit their people and their resources, and install bad governments. They have all certainly demonstrated collective clout lately, with Lula da Silva a major player in those efforts. He, too, has a vicious rightwing nipping at his heels, and I think it has taken some courage for him to see beyond Brazil's borders, and risk his own political fortunes, for the good of all--which, ultimately, is Brazil's good as well.

South America is blest with many such visionary leaders right now. It is a major turning point in history for them. Some of our people must be just plain mystified by news items like this--if they ever hear about it, by chance--of warm, friendly, productive relations between Lula da Silva and that "tyrant-dictator-terrorist-anti-Christ" Chavez, "friend of Fidel Castro." They have been completely disinformed and brainwashed by our corpo/fascist media.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 07:00 AM
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2. Just read your comments on Chavez/Lula da Silva. Really good.
He has done too many things in support of Chavez to not believe his sincerity, and loyalty to his friends, for sure. I am hoping and praying, like you, that the remnants of that fascist Brazilian oligarchy which kept the country living in terror during the evil years of the right-wing military dictatorship, approximately 1964 through 1985 will not be able to significantly rebuild and take over again.

It's not that long ago, all things considered, and not that long ago in the hearts and minds of the people of that country who lost relatives and other loved ones to torture, murder, madness.

Unity will save South America this time, if there is ever to be any justice in this world. The pain of the past is too close still, and I'll bet there's no way in hell they will want to see it happening all over again, as it did when the U.S. backed the worst criminals among them, and installed them, and supported them as their leaders while they beat down all resistance to the point it seemed to disappear. It didn't disappear, people just became too afraid to speak out any longer. The feelings remain the same. No fascist monster government can force people to love it, only the sickest ones among us would, the ones who are all too happy to live in luxury at the expense, and through the suffering of others.

Good people around the world will be rooting for the progress and solidarity of South America.
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