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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 06:56 PM
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Chavez asks Colombia to withdraw its consul in Maracaibo
November 30, 2008

Chavez asks Colombia to withdraw its consul in Maracaibo

Caracas, Nov 30, 2008 (EFE via COMTEX) --
President Hugo Chavez on Sunday here
asked Colombia to immediate withdraw its consul in Maracaibo, Carlos
Galvis Fajardo, after accusing him of being involved in plans to
destabilize the Venezuelan government.

"The only way that I won't expel that consul general is if the
Colombian government withdraws him right away, otherwise I'll expel
him from the country. I hope the Colombian government will make
those decisions," said Chavez at an official ceremony broadcast live
on national radio and television.

Chavez cited an alleged telephone call to Galvis Fajardo from
Jose Obdulio, a supposed advisor to Colombian President Alvaro
Uribe, that the Venezuelan government had monitored.

In that conversation, Galvis Fajardo hailed the recent opposition
election victories in several regions of Venezuela and spoke of
contacting the new state governors who oppose Chavez's government
and activating "some plans," the Venezuelan leader said.

Venezuelan Foreign Minister Nicolas Maduro said that immediately
after Chavez's public claim, he received a phone call from his
Colombian counterpart, Jaime Bermudez, who assured him that Bogota
would withdraw Galvis Fajardo.

More:
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2008/11/30/3822203.htm

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 02:38 AM
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1. One advantage of that 2002 coup is that the Venezuelan government, its intelligence
service, its police and military, and Chavez himself remain alert, catch things quickly and respond quickly to any further such threat. There is no question in my mind that the Bushwhacks have had a war plan in preparation for about a year, and it most certainly involves the oil-rich state of Zulia on the Caribbean. Bushwhacks have oil on the brain. That's where they would strike. And it's a sitting duck, but for the alertness, intelligence (smarts), planning and swiftness of action of the Chavez government, and the loyalty of Venezuelans. Planning, among other things, has involved the invitation to the Russians for naval maneuvers in the Caribbean, as a warning off to the Bushwhacks, during this transition period between regimes in the U.S.

The Bushwhacks haven't armed Colombia to the teeth ($6 BILLION in military aid) for no reason. (And their reason is certainly not to stop cocaine traffic--which they haven't even dented--what do they care about that? They care nothing. The "war on drugs" is BULLSHIT.) Zulia is adjacent to Colombia. And there have been high level meetings in Colombia about Zulia and its oil and its potential for secession. Also, the Bushwhacks have been spending the year testing out US/Colombia military coordination systems, which appear to be run out of the US embassy "war room" in Bogota. These have included a plan to embarass/discredit Chavez in late 2007, by inviting him to negotiate hostage releases with the FARC, then bombing the hostages on their way out (pure treachery), a bombing/raid on Ecuador using US "smart bombs" and probably Donald Rumsfeld's "Office of Special Plans in Exile" (to trump up the infamous "miracle laptopS" and all the psyops/propaganda associated with them), the staged 'rescue' of Ingrid Betancourt (who would have been released much earlier, in Ecuador, if the US/Colombia hadn't bombed the FARC hostage negotiators, killing them all in their sleep), and, lately, the testing out of a fascist secession scheme in Bolivia. (I wonder if the white separatists who rioted in Bolivia know that they were just guinea pigs, to the US. Maybe that's why they rioted?!). There have also been US spying flyovers of Venezuelan territory near the Zulian coast, and of course the reconstitution of the US 4th Fleet in the Caribbean, apropos of nothing--a move that even Lula da Silva, president of Brazil, considers threatening (especially of the Brazil's oil reserves on the Atlantic coast).

And--the most interesting event of all--the supposedly retired Donald Rumsfeld and his weirdly timed op-ed in the Washingon Post--the very weekend that Uribe (president of the rich, drug trafficking elite in Colombia) pulled his dirty trick on Chavez of bombing the hostages that he had asked Chavez to get released. "The Smart Way To Defeat Tyrants Like Chavez," Rumsfeld wrote. Included in his op-ed was this: He urged "swift action" by the US in support of "friends and allies" in South America. Whoever did he mean? The US has no "friends and allies" in South America, except for the brutes running Colombia, the corrupt 'free tradists' running Peru, and the traitorous fascist groups, like the white separatists in Bolivia, and the cabal of gangsters in Zulia, and one other such group, in the oil rich northern province of Ecuador (Chuyaquil), planning fascist coups to get control of the oil?

My guess: Rumsfeld is the strategist. And that means trouble--likely sooner rather than later, although Rumsfeld does have US taxpayer-created mercenary armies like Blackwater (which is active in Colombia), and billions stolen from us in Iraq, with which to instigate a private civil war if Obama decides not to cooperate. (This is one of the reasons why Hillary Clinton as SoS is so worrisome. She is on the wrong side in South America, as was her husband. Will she play along with Rumsfeld and Exxon Mobil et al?)

In any case, neither Donald Rumsfeld, nor the neoliberal clique now ensconced in the White House, can defeat real democracy, which they have in Venezuela and South America generally, and we don't have here. They will have to bludgeon our people into another oil war--or trick them into it (more likely). But the South Americans have won true freedom only recently, after long hard work on democratic institutions. They are passionate about keeping it. And they have impressive solidarity among most of the national leaders. They will fight back, in unison, this time, as they were never able to before. This sobering reality--if it ever dawns on Obama--may be a deterrent to a hot war (or, if the Bushwhacks present him with such a disaster, may prompt him to end it quickly), and thence likely to a period of "softening up"--somewhat as Bill Clinton softened up Iraq for the Bushwhacks. It might have a nicer face, but it will be "divide and conquer," bribery, "free trade" for the rich, lots of Peace Corp volunteers and other efforts to make corpo/fascism look good again. Obama will then be Diebolded out of office in 2012, and a new Puke Tyrant will arrive, to finish regaining global corporate predator control control of South Americans' oil, by any means necessary.

Those of the most probable scenarios--Oil War II now, Oil War II later. Our assholes won't tolerate the people of South America controlling and benefiting from their own oil, or running their own affairs in any important ($$$) respect. And neither will South America ever again tolerate US domination, for they know well what it means: ruination and death.

I am not happy about our side of it. It is tragic. We should be welcoming democracy in South America. But I am heartened by the fact that Chavez and his many friends and allies are onto it. The 2002 coup in Venezuela taught them all a big lesson. The people of Venezuela turning back that US-supported coup was THE most important event in modern South American history, in addition to their achievement of transparent vote counting.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 12:57 PM
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2. So, is the voluntary withdrawal an admission of guilt? n/t
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:12 AM
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3. spying!!!
"Chavez cited an alleged telephone call to Galvis Fajardo from
Jose Obdulio, a supposed advisor to Colombian President Alvaro
Uribe, that the Venezuelan government had monitored."
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