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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:39 PM
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Would you lie and say you were a Republican to get a job you wanted?
http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/

Goodling Defends Testimony

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In the face of Justice Department criticism, former Justice Department official Monica Goodling on Friday defended her testimony before Congress, insisting she had been informed it was appropriate to use political considerations in hiring certain career employees.

Goodling admitted to the House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday that in some cases she "crossed the line" in asking inappropriate political questions of applicants, but that she had been advised that in considering appointments of immigration judges it was acceptable to use "other factors," such as political background, in making hiring decisions.

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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:41 PM
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1. NO
I won't be able to keep the farce long enough to make it through any probation periods!:evilgrin:
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:46 PM
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6. I wouldn't make it through the first day.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:48 PM
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10. Yeah, I'd lose it during coffee break
When they turned Rush up full blast and brought in the cigars and meat slabs.
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Les Ismore Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 06:48 PM
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20. People who Hate America will be trolling here on Monday
Go here http://dudratreview.blogspot.com/2007/05/everyone-is-welcome.html
The people who run the Circle Jerk of Hate, the Dude Rat Review are coming to DU to troll up comments to post on their blog. You gotta see the crap these people write. Go leave some love...
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 07:40 PM
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29. Did any of these guys actually ever post and get banned here at DU?
Or are they using extra-posterior communication methods as usual?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 07:46 PM
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30. Oh really?
Well, golly gosh.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:41 PM
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2. Hard to say, because I would never want any job that required that.
That "requirement" alone would tell me that I really didn't want
to work there.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:46 PM
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7. UNLESS you wanted to expose their sleaze. In which case, you bet I would.nt
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 08:12 PM
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34. Well, if we're talking "undercover work", then lying is pretty much a given.
So, in that case, then of course I would.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:42 PM
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3. lying leads to more lies to cover the original lie and so forth.
My memory isn't that great so for me lying is something i'm very bad it.
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:44 PM
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4. I`m not that good a liar!
:)
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:45 PM
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5. If I were willing to lie to get a job with Republicans, I'd probably BE a Republican.
:evilgrin:
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:46 PM
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8. Har!
There it is...
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:47 PM
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9. Life is too short to work around a bunch of shit ass republicans
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:51 PM
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11. This sounds like Iraq where one had to claim they were Baath party members
to get a decent job.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:56 PM
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14. I think that's lost in the question ...
Having lived in the United States under all of the previous administrations our collective experience allows us to believe "no I would never" ... however, if our very ability to survive (provide a life for our families), as it was in Iraq, was to claim allegience to a party, the truth probably isn't so easy
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 06:27 PM
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17. Yup. I would claim to be a GOPer in a New York minute
if that was what it took to keep food on the table.

This Homeland Security having to okay everyone before a person can be hired sounds to me as the first step in a one party state.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:53 PM
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12. I'd throw up on their shoes if I tried to....
:rofl:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:53 PM
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13. Years ago,
if a person wanted a job with this county, they had be a registered republican. That included the guys who bid on the wood lots on the county land every summer. The county was run like a feudal state. It is obvious that Monica & friends believe in this type of system.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 07:12 PM
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23. I know where your coming from H2O Man
I am a project manager in construction in the south.

And everyone knows where I stand!
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:57 PM
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15. Sure, if that is ALL it took...
But probably the environment would be such that loyalty would be tested frequently. So, it would be difficult to keep the job. On the other hand, if may employees lied to get the job, perhaps I could find a lot of underground buddies working there :)
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 06:02 PM
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16.  Absolutely no , I worked 12 years around repubs
I was not aware at the time because politics was not the topic at the time , not until the last two years and I was fired for my point of view , I would rather open a vein than go through that ever again .
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 06:29 PM
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18. This is an oxymoron. Why would I want a job in which I had to be a Republican?
Seriously.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 06:44 PM
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19. Well, right now you cannot work for the government unless you are one
which is what the investigations of Goodling/Doan has revealed. And now anyone seeking a job in all other industries has to be approved by Chertoff in Homeland Security. Who is to say that Homeland Security doesn't start weeding out the non-GOPers when they hand out their approval slips.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 07:29 PM
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28. still some jobs left in local gov.
in the blue states
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 07:06 PM
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21. No. I'd rather say I had a sister working in a whorehouse.
GOP member? Noooooo way.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 07:09 PM
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22. I do what I have to do to support my family.
That being said, too much rhetoric and I might lose it and get fired.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 07:15 PM
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24. No, the very perceived need to do so would prove the job one they could
take and shove.

This adminstration is soaked in that kind of corruption. And the repuke Congress handed them so much power. Their arrogance in little, daily things that don't make the news is profound. They do whatever they want, immune from "judicial review" which means the law only contains buzzwords and labels they slap onto the situation to do as they please.

It is a cancer that spreads from the top down; for instance, as a lawyer, I've seen doctors and other ordinary citizens ignore subpoenas. Why not? They see it happening to people at the top and there's no penalty.

We are becoming a nation of men and not of laws. It's sad so few people understand even the concept of the law. They take the rule of men as a given.

They believe a lawyer is just an influence peddlar in all this. You're just a "connection." Do you know the judge? That's more important than knowing the law.

Which is a shame, because the law is so much more reasonable a thing that the likes and dislikes of individuals.
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 07:18 PM
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25. If I were infiltrating the 'Cons, yes
But I couldn't stay undercover long after the Roast Puppies were served.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 07:26 PM
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26. I'd know that probably wasn't the place to work
Yes, I have interviewed at places where I had strong suspicions that the owner/president/other person or people in charge were Republicans. In one case, the autographed picture of Bush tipped me off. In those cases and in any case, I try to avoid bringing up politics during the interview or assuming that it would be hell for me to work there. If it was something that they asked directly and would only hire if I said that I was Republican or go along with any conservative ideology that I could not live with, I would not be willing to take the job anyway.
At my current position, I don't think politics has anything to do with the job. Just by looking at the bumper stickers in the parking lot, one can tell we are a mixed group politically. I don't know my employers politics accept that he is a devout Catholic. Regardless, I don't think that my politics nor anyone else's matter to him.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 07:26 PM
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27. Not a chance, someone like Goodling would keep on you
...endlessly until you'd crack and fess up, or they would simply drop you if they even suspected you lied
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 07:47 PM
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31. If I EVER had to lie about religion or politics to get a job
You can be sure it's a job I would eventually sabotage.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 07:50 PM
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32. No...If I have to stoop to lying to get a job, the job isn't worth
Edited on Sun May-27-07 07:53 PM by rasputin1952
it.

Besides, I wouldn't last 30 seconds after I heard the first RW talking point...
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DawgHouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 08:10 PM
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33. I wouldn't lie but I hope they wouldn't ask.
What business is it of theirs? Although I did recently interview a lady who made some ill comments about HRC during her interview and kept rolling her eyes. Something about how the country will be screwed if she gets elected. She didn't get the job for other reasons but I thought she was pretty stupid to assume the political leanings of the person who interviewed her.
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