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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 01:59 PM
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Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee on HBO tonight
9.00pm. They're showing excerpts now. I don't plan to miss this tonight.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 02:00 PM
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1. Darn, I wish I had HBO.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 02:04 PM
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2. Everyone should see this
Iraq verion 1.0. I treasure that Dee Brown book.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 02:21 PM
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5. I treasure it too
If I was a History teacher, it would be a must read for my class.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 02:24 PM
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6. So much of this planet's tragic history has been buried
with the establishment's version of history. I'm emailing all my nieces and nephews to watch this tonight.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 02:12 PM
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3. Thanks for the reminder. n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 02:20 PM
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4. One of my favorite books ever
Read it in high school when I was still innocent. It opened my eyes. My dad was a US History teacher and I confronted him with this book. I was stunned that I had been lied to and my own father was part of the team of educators who had lied to us.

We had great conversations about politics after that. Even though my dad was part of the establishment, I believe he respected me and my skepticism. He knew I would always look at the other side of any issue, I was no longer an innocent believer.

I will never stop loving this book. It led me to seek out more information about Native Americans and how they were mistreated by the US govt. The first time I went to South Dakota, I went to see the Wounded Knee monument and cried. Most people want to see Mount Rushmore, I went to Wounded Knee first.

Can't wait to watch this show tonight.
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cmkramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 07:56 PM
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12. I read it in high school too
It was one of those books you would see kids reading or carrying around all the time. It was an assigned book for at least one history class, but most of us just read it on our own.

I'll be watching the movie on HBO tonight. Maybe I'll re-read the book too.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 02:40 PM
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7. From what I hear they ruined the book.
The history tied together with a fictional character involved in a love story. And they skip the beginning of the Plains Indian Wars especially what started it all - The Sand Creek Massacre.

No thanks. Make a documentary series of Dee Brown's important book.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 03:12 PM
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9. Yep they omit critical sections of
the book. I'll still watch.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 09:01 PM
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15. I don't know what character you're referring to, but the doctor is not fictional
though I suppose they may not stick to the facts regarding him.


http://www.startribune.com/357/story/1208183.html

Dakota doctor's dreams for his culture died at Wounded Knee Indian doctor's voice might finally be heard by America
By Nick Coleman, Star Tribune

Last update: May 26, 2007 – 5:54 PM

HBO's take on one of the most notorious massacres in American history, the 1890 slaughter by the 7th Cavalry of 300 Lakota Indians on a snow-covered South Dakota knoll above a creek known as Wounded Knee, begins airing at 8 Sunday night. The film is called "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee." The title comes from the late Dee Brown's 1970 polemic about centuries of genocide against American Indians. One of the film's main characters is a fascinating Minnesotan, a college-educated Indian physician and influential native author named Charles Eastman. His life was lived in a turbulent effort to mediate the conflict between Indian tribes and a white government determined to either take Indian lands and pressure the tribes into adopting white culture, or to take the lands and destroy the Indians.
A lot of government officials believed the second plan was easier.

Eastman was a Dakota (eastern bands of the "Sioux" spoke Dakota, western bands spoke a variant known as Lakota) who was born near present-day Redwood Falls in 1858, the year Minnesota became a state. He was just a child when his family fled to Canada after the 1862 Dakota war on the Minnesota frontier, barely escaping a punitive military expedition. Eastman's boyhood Dakota name, Ohiyesa, meant "the winner." His father, a warrior named Many Lightnings, was imprisoned for several years after the 1862 war. When he was released, he changed his name to Jacob Eastman and decided that young Ohiyesa should become Charles Eastman. He arranged for his bright young son to get a good education.

Eastman's life spanned the decades-long war between the government and the Sioux, from its bloody origins here to its gruesome conclusion at Wounded Knee, where Eastman was serving as the reservation doctor. It wasn't just the members of Chief Big Foot's band who died in the bloody snow at Wounded Knee. It was the dream of people like Eastman that the long war between the government and the Indians could end without Indian culture being brutally crushed.

Educated at Dartmouth and trained as a doctor at Boston University, Eastman was unable to get a medical practice off the ground in St. Paul. White people, he discovered, didn't want an Indian doctor. He was practicing on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation at the time of Wounded Knee, when the Army paid back the Sioux (so the Indians believed) for their victory 14 years earlier over Gen. George Armstrong Custer at the Little Big Horn.
After the massacre, Eastman helped search for the wounded and recover the slain - who included women and children. It was an event that traumatized him for the rest of his life, and affected his teaching and writing, including the books "Indian Boyhood,"The Soul of The Indian" and "From the Deep Woods to Civilization."



P.S. For those not familiar with Nick Coleman who wrote this column, he is NOT related to that weasel Norm Coleman
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 09:35 PM
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16. OK not "fictional" but "fictionalized"
"Historians may quibble over whether this Hollywood-ization of "Wounded Knee" is ultimately helpful as a teaching tool. They agree that the hero of the film, the real-life Charles Eastman né Ohiyesa (played by Adam Beach), has been given a fictionalized life story to place him, Zelig-like, in key places at key moments. Eastman, the shining example of Indian assimilation into white culture, was part Sioux and educated at boarding schools, becoming a doctor at Boston University. In the film, Eastman was present at Little Bighorn; in reality he was a kid in grade school in Nebraska at the time."

http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_5971150

But how did you like it? I don't subscribe to HBO.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 10:21 PM
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17. I don't have HBO either and I really would like to see it.
I've already put it on my NetFlix list though I suppose it will take ages for it to be released to DVD.

It's too bad they felt the need to fictionalize the Eastman's life. From the column in the Minneapolis paper, I would think his real story would have been compelling enough. I wonder if they at least mention that Eastman, at the end of his life, while accepting the old life was gone, was not entirely comfortable with assimilation especially the way the native languages and religions had been outlawed. Per Coleman's column, he felt both Indians and non-Indians had lost a lot.

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 03:11 PM
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8. I'm planning
to watch it. The previews looked interesting.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 03:18 PM
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10. I am so looking forward to seeing this. The book is still one of my all time favorites. eom
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 06:20 PM
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11. Kick n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 07:58 PM
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13. Starting now n/t
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 08:07 PM
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14. It already looks good. Time to close the laptop and chill.... -nt
Edited on Sun May-27-07 08:08 PM by MazeRat7
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pookieblue Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 10:27 PM
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18. watched it
I remember reading the book several times growing up. And remember my mother explaining Wounded Knee to me as well.

While like all movies, they tend to play up some characters more so than others, The Movie was still very good and shined some light on the truth.


BTW, every time I see Adam Beach in a role (be it Wind Talkers, Smoke Signals, Wounded Knee to his tv role on Law and Order) I always become more impressed with him. I would love to see him in more movies. He puts some of the big name actors to shame. *cough Tom Cruise cough*

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