Only 603 days and 11 hours left until Bush gets away with his crimes...

[derby378]

...so, Democrats in Congress, during the next week, how in the world do you plan to redeem yourselves in our eyes?

(Boxer, Feingold, Kennedy, and others who voted to defund the occupation - you're excepted from this question. Good on ya.)

[Solly Mack]

1. 603 X 3.5 (on average deaths per day of troops) = 2110.5

603 X 40 (and that's low-balling it) = 24,120 Iraqis dead

[derby378]

2. Ugh - thanks for the perspective

Take a good look, Senator Reid - are all these people going to die because you felt the need to enable this two-bit Nero with delusions of demigodhood?

[elocs]

5. If the war was defunded, do you really think every soldier would be out in 4 months?

Either way, in the next 4 months people were going to die. September is when this is going to come to a head with Republicans also likely falling away. Too many are pissed with their own team because they blew it at halftime. The game is not over yet. It's too bad that the team that has to win the game has already been called spineless cowards by their supporters. It ain't over till it's over.

[Solly Mack]

7. Some people see those deaths as abstract - those people can kiss my ass

They talk of political realties safely behind the walls of their home and speak of how tragic the dying is - but they aren't really concerned by it - after all, it's not happening to them. It's happening halfway around the world to other people.

[elocs]

3. Throughout history many guilty have gotten away with their crimes.

Life is unfair, but life goes on. Instead of holding Democratic senators solely responsible for failing to convict Bush after he is impeached, please explain where the other 17 or more Republican votes needed to convict will come from? The Democrats cannot do this by themselves. If you want a show trial and parade Bush's crimes for all the world to see without a chance to convict and this makes you feel better, well the Democrats could certainly do this by themselves. Nice to see you gave my Senator Feingold kudos for voting against funding the war. Guess what? He is against impeachment since you seem to be mixing defunding with impeachment (getting away with crimes).

[pretzel4gore]

4. but you're missing the big pic! damn you

i feel your pain at the idea of Geeb (that's john ellis bush, or 'jeb's, brother) getting away with all his evil deeds but, c'mon, what would happen if the 'war' against Iraqi people was to be cancelled suddenly? Imagine the newsmedia having all that airtime (britney only good for little while, dam you) to fill! WHAT if they began looking at ....911! shittfukkendamn you! Or even worse, the 2000 election (which mr gore helped bush to win, being a good germ..american)...what would it look like if our government, finest in the world, could be seized by crooks as low browed as cheney, bush wolfwitz and foxnews etc? We aint a bana anna republic damn you! HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST WE ARE! Damn you for sticking your nose in other people's droppings!
Stick to your own DROPPINGS, damn you....

[Gman]

6. Impeachment is not punishment

trial, conviction and imprisonment are punishment. It will happen. If not in the US, then overseas at the ICC. Remember they are still hunting down Nazi's. Just a couple of years ago a woman in her 80's was found that collaborated with the Nazis. Just because Bush leaves office does not mean it is over by a long shot. A presidential self-pardon does not apply to the ICC.

[derby378]

8. Tell that to the victims of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia

Pol Pot died without ever having to answer for his horrendous crimes against humanity. Most of the Khmer Rouge have also escaped justice. And as for the Nazi-hunters, sure, they nabbed Eichmann and Bolger, but they never bagged Mengele.

[Gman]

11. I don't think you understand what impeachment is

[doggyboy]

9. Not true

Impeachment and conviction in the Senate can occur after a president leaves office. Check the constitution. Also, his leaving office does nothing about his criminal liabilities

[derby378]

10. George W. Bush now owns a huge plot of land down in Paraguay

My cynical side tells me that immediately after he hands the Presidency to Edwards or Richardson or Obama or whomever, he's going to run for his jet, Secret Service in tow with subguns drawn, and fly down to Paraguay with Laura, hole up on his new little fiefdom, and never come back to America again.