Palast: Congress won’t do squat

[BlackVelvet04]

This is unbelievable.




GP: The blondeling underling of the Police State. The lady was trying to tell us something important, but the dim bulbs of the U.S. press and the committee dolts wouldn’t listen. She began by accusing her bosses of perjury. The issue was her allegation that they knew all about “caging.” And no one asked her one damn question about it. Like what is “caging” and why would they commit perjury to cover it up?

JD: Rep. Linda Sanchez (D-CA) asked, and Goodling said, “It has to do with direct mail.”



JD: Well, it is a direct mail term, but it’s also a voter supression term. Do no senators know that, not even Committee Chair John Conyers?

GP: Conyers knows — and he knows me. He’s keeping his powder dry. The others are clueless.



JD: My mind goes back to Conyers. What did you mean earlier by “keeping his powder dry?”

GP: We talk. ‘Nuff said.



JD: So is Congress eventually going to get to all this? Is that the end game with the Justice Department investigation?

GP: No, Congress won’t do squat. Did anyone do anything about the felon purge? It went backwards: Bush signed the Help America Vote Act. God forbid.

http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/05/24/justice-department-scandal-greg-palast/

[BlackVelvet04]

1. One of the emails Palast has:

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Balz
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 6:39 PM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: quote

Ken, from our conversation about turnout and voter groups, I'd like to put the following quote on the record. It has to do with undecided voters.

Claiming that undecided voters are more conservative than liberal, older and tend to go to church more regularly, Bush-Cheney campaign manager Ken Mehlman said, "I have not thought this group is a group inherently for Kerry."

Thanks,
Dan

[Demit]

2. I disagree with Palast saying 'Nuff said.' I think he should be saying much more.

I don't understand why he is being so, you'll excuse the expression, cagey. First he implies that Conyers is going to do something about his (Palast's) supposedly explosive discovery, then he contemptuously says Congress won't do squat. What is Palast's game here?

[valerief]

4. Seems like Palast is the only game in town. nt

[Demit]

10. What does that mean, anyway?

[robinlynne]

23. the truth, I would say, is Palast's "game".

[Demit]

27. Then let him tell more of it. Instead of hinting. And saying 'Buy my book." Bah.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

3. From Palast this week. The Goods on Goodling And The Keys To The Kingdom

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x960239

[BlackVelvet04]

5. Caging email

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Griffin - Research/Communications
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 6:34 PM
To: [e-mail]; Lindy Landreaux - Political ; Miriam Moore - Research/Communications ; Victoria Newton - Research/Communications ; Shawn Reinschmiedt - Research/Communications ; [e-mail]; [e-mail]; [e-mail]
Subject: Re: caging

Thx
Tim Griffin
Research Director and
Deputy Communications Director
Republican National Committee
310 First Street, S.E.
Washington, D.C. 20003
w:[phone]
f: [phone]
[e-mail]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelly Porter
> To: Lindy Landreaux - Political ; Miriam Moore - Research/Communications ; Victoria Newton - Research/Communications ; Tim Griffin - Research/Communications ; Shawn Reinschmiedt - Research/Communications ; [e-mail] ; Stephen Shiver ; [e-mail]
> Sent: Thu Aug 26 18:12:49 2004
> Subject: caging
>
> Total as of today is 1834.
>
> Kelly
>
> ATTACHMENT: Caging-1.xls


HERE IS A LIST OF 1834 PEOPLE IN JACKSONVILLE WHO ARE ON THE CAGING LIST.
THE TITLE OF THE SPREADSHEET IS ACTUALLY CAGING

[BlackVelvet04]

11. another

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Griffin - Research/Communications
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 5:55 PM
To: Kelly Porter ; Lindy Landreaux - Political ; Miriam Moore - Research/Communications ; Victoria Newton - Research/Communications ; Shawn Reinschmiedt - Research/Communications ; [e-mail]; Stephen Shiver ; [e-mail]
Subject: RE: caging

thank you, perfect
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelly Porter
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 5:47 PM
> To: Lindy Landreaux - Political; Miriam Moore - Research/Communications; Victoria Newton - Research/Communications; Tim Griffin - Research/Communications; Shawn Reinschmiedt - Research/Communications; [e-mail]; Stephen Shiver; [e-mail]
> Subject: caging
> The total to date is 1771.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Kelly
>
> ATTACHMENT: Caging.xls

[symbolman]

6. Don't forget that

Rove was once FIRED by Bush Senior over Mail direct Mail, fraudulent activity.. then there's the Mailed IN Votes by the TROOPS that changed the course of the election in Florida..

Just sayin' :)

[L. Coyote]

7. "Caging Monica." OR, "How a Grant of Immunity Works."

Has anyone considered the possibility that there was a concerted effort to limit what Goodling discussed because of the grant of immunity. Anything that she was asked about became immune to prosecution. Anything not discussed remains prosecutable, right??.

Goodling wasn't given a Nixon-style pardon, a "you are pardoned for everything unspeakable you did, even if you shot Kennedy yourself, you are pardoned" pardon.

[BlackVelvet04]

26. Well, no it hasn't occured to me

because I just don't see anyone being prosecuted for anything. How long are they going to sit on this powder keg waiting for what?

[BlackVelvet04]

8. All these CSV files have hundreds of names of voters in FL

-----Original Message-----
From: Carrie Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 8:55 PM
To: Sarah Anderson
Cc: Andy Palmer ; [e-mail]
Subject: CSV Files

ATTACHMENTS: 11A_7664_20_2004817.CSV; 11E_7470_238_2004817.CSV; 24R-1_7672_140_2004817.CSV; 25E_7665_238_2004817.CSV; 25J_7666_188_2004817.CSV; 25T_7667_144_2004817.CSV; 25X_7671_175_2004817.CSV; 2B_7669_337_2004817.CSV; 2E_7483_187_2004817.CSV; 2F_7670_242_2004817.CSV; 43X_7451_208_2004817.CSV; 44X_7471_322_2004817.CSV; 63Q_7452_219_2004817.CSV; 70Q_7811_210_2004818.CSV; 70V_7813_11_2004818.CSV; 71Q_7812_262_2004818.CSV; 90R_7814_18_2004818.CSV; 91Q_7815_41_2004818.CSV; 91R_7816_3_2004818.CSV; 92Q_7817_123_2004818.CSV; 92Q-1_7818_122_2004818.CSV; 93Q_7819_2_2004818.CSV; 93Q-1_7820_35_2004818.CSV; 97R-1_7821_2_2004818.CSV; 98R_7822_9_2004818.CSV;

[BlackVelvet04]

9. Is anyone curious as to why congress won't do squat? n/t

[LeftCoast]

12. It probably has to do with the fact that most of Palast's evidence is vapor-ware

There just isn't much 'there' there...

edited to add:

Read this dKos diary for more:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/5/26/83915/0129

[BlackVelvet04]

15. That criticism no longer holds up

as there are a couple of emails titled: caging Those emails have actual excel files with thousands of voters names.

[LeftCoast]

16. You should read that diary more thoroughly

I'll quote here:

"The public has access to 2 files comprising one list of 1834 names and addresses. Where are the others?"

[BlackVelvet04]

19. And that's incorrect.....

there is another with 1700 and then the CSV files with more....I haven't added those up yet.

Maybe you shouldn't just take kos' word for it and do some research yourself.

[Demit]

13. That's Palast's contention. I want to hear him explain why he said it.

I like the reporting he's done in the past but he's being too cryptic here. If he doesn't want to be suspected of grandstanding in order to sell his new book, he's got to be less mysterious and wa-a-ay more forthcoming.

[BlackVelvet04]

14. He has emails with actual caging lists......

how more forthcoming can he be?

[LeftCoast]

17. The public files list 1834 names. He claims 70,000

Where are the others?

[BlackVelvet04]

18. There is another entitled

caging with over 1700 names and there are other CSV files with thousands.


I posted those upthread. Responses 11 and 8.

[Demit]

20. Okay. You explain to us what he meant then. If you can't, perhaps that's because

he's not saying enough, to answer the natural questions that arise in our minds. Either he has the goods or he doesn't, and he's either passed them on to John Conyers or he hasn't. He should stop being coy.

I'm getting the impression of a guy who claims that he's holding a briefcase with a million dollars, but he's only flashing you a quick look inside.

[BlackVelvet04]

21. Well, we know he has at least 3,500 of the goods......

I don't know what is going on between him and Conyers and maybe at this point he isn't at liberty to say. I just know Palast was absolutely right about the purge in FL and he had the goods. I have no reason to disbelieve him now.

I'm sure he is holding something back for his book. That's reasonable I think.

[Generator]

22. I just had an epiphany

on the squat doing, the powder dry forever thing. IF the American people ever found out that the congress knows and covers up much of this shit-trust me-they would want ever last one of them out of there forever. And the "Representatives" know this. Basically the government exists for itself by itself. We had been warned all my life we were becoming the second Roman empire. Is their any doubt now? We have Gore saying it's not even a Democracy anymore..why do I have to pretend?????

I've had it with lies. Bush is not the legally elected president of this country. And those people in congress DO NOT represent me or the constitution. All the represent is themselves. Bannna republic.

[wiggs]

24. I believe the same. In a way, the GOP is doing of the work of corporatists, including dem ones. nt

[BlackVelvet04]

25. I have to say I agree with you....

If I can read Palast's book and see the evidence of voter purging then why can't members of Congress? Goodling was telling them about caging and they ignored it. We have actual caging emails with lists and nobody is investigating? Is it because they just take turns? Democrats get 8 years of Clinton so republicans get 8 years of bush? Is that how it works?

[Rex]

28. Well, if anyone would know - it would be GP.

And I think Congress has already shown us how little they care about the military. I expected nothing when the Dems won, I was rooting like hell for change - but doubted anything would.

People still believe Iraq caused 911. People can't find Iraq on a map or Iran or Afghanistan. OBL will NEVER be caught, Bush has made that obvious. We could have killed Saddam under Poppy Bush, his excution just fired up the local popluace.

Peace? Not shooting for peace - more money, more power, that IS Congress. Shitbags one and all (almost).

[bobbolink]

29. It's clear Congress won't "do squat". Look at the turnaround of Conyers.

Read his blog *before* the '06 elections, and now.

All the difference in the world... like 180.

I never thought Conyers would be bought off, so I have no false hope anymore.

:shrug:

[bobthedrummer]

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