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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:48 PM
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Anyone remember this Pix of poppy?
Just came across this little gem again. Poppy's 15 minutes of Lawrence of Arabia fame, then Clinton beat him.




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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:50 PM
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1. i just puked a little
the whole family is demented
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:52 PM
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5. You drinking with shadow?
:beer:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:00 PM
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9. drink drink drink judiciously.
:toast: :beer:
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:05 PM
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14. Judiciously How?
:beer:
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:07 PM
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16. With the Judge
Judge Beam :beer:
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:10 PM
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18. Here come the Judge.
What's the Chaser?

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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:19 PM
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25. Chaser?
Chaser sir, is not something I associate with when imbibing the nectar of Kentucky.

Sipping neat.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:14 PM
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22. With a very large frosted mug.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 06:32 PM
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40. Speaking of puking! Do you remember when he puked on the Japanese Prime Minister? And yes,
they are all nuts.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:51 PM
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2. But, soft! What light through yonder window breaks?
You put your left hand in,You put your left hand out
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:52 PM
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4. Now that's funny! n/t
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 08:24 PM
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43. Hilarious!
And quite apropos.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:52 PM
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3. The fuck? Can you explain the circumstances, please? It's just TOO bizarre.
Why are all the soldiers sitting, and him standing? Is he giving the Finger to someone, or making a "follow me, boys" gesture?

I'd really like to know, because I've never seen thsi picture before, and it's quite disturbing.

Redstone
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:58 PM
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7. Off the top of my head
I remember it being after the tomahawks missles had been put to bed and the 3 day push of almost no resistance (other than that pesky road to Basra thing)of Iraqis off the Kuwait border. Poppy made a visit, it was his version of landing on an aircraft carrier off the San Diego coast. Guess it runs in the family. The troops do look thrilled.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:38 PM
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28. Thanks. Those troops DO look utterly underwhelmed, don't they?
Redstone
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:58 PM
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6. I've never seen this pix.
What the hell is he doing???
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:03 PM
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11. He's tossing tie-clips and key-rings to the troops in SA
Photograph by: Diana Walker, 1990
During a visit to Saudi Arabia during Thanksgiving, President Bush tosses souvenir tie clips and key rings to the soldiers, who were gearing up for the impending Gulf War.
http://www.cah.utexas.edu/photojournalism/detail.php?nickname=bush&picid=7
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:05 PM
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13. He thought it was Mardi Gras nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:06 PM
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15. Snicker. Tie clips - what every soldier needs in a combat zone
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:09 PM
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17. Fookin A
I know....maybe trade them for a little kif
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:12 PM
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20. wtf?
Thanks for your service. Have a keyring.

woohoo! Support the troops, republican style!
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:12 PM
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21. What's someone who's going off to war supposed to do
with a tie clip or key ring? What a dope!

Thanks for the info!

:hi:
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 11:13 PM
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29. Just like the old skinflint. He had breakfast at a restaurant at the World Golf Center
in Northeast Florida during Jebbie's first term as gov. a few years back. The tip he left for the wait staff was a little metal with the Presidential on it. Not a penny in real tender.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 09:56 AM
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36. ...
Edited on Sun May-27-07 09:57 AM by DesertRat
self delete
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:58 PM
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8. The guy behind him is thinking
"Hmmm, I wonder how far up his ass this thing will go..."
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:03 PM
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10. They are in an open vehicle.
As I recall, the desert wind cried 'Mary'
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:16 PM
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23. I didn't identify the object, only the thought of the guy leaning on it
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:04 PM
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12. Is he giving the Royal Wave to His subjects?
:puke:
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:10 PM
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19. "And my spawn will lead you into victory!"
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:18 PM
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24. So phoney. He's not even waving or anything--just posing. Like father like son. nt
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:23 PM
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27. Well, he is bracing himself
against the desert breeze, the low angle of the sun, the adoration of his men............. but mostly against the ass whipping the Arkie was preparing to hand him in the upcoming election.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:22 PM
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26. From the same site. Another Bush - Same Cheney

Photograph by: David Hume Kennerly, 1991
Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney reports back to President Bush at the White House after returning from a trip to Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War.
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 11:24 PM
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30. Look at the body language here
Cheney looks like a little dweeb car salesman explaining to the closer why he needs the sale.

Some difference, now he is the guy on the carrier.

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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 11:27 PM
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31. looks like something out of 'Close Encounters'
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 11:31 PM
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32. Cue Julie Andrews ... *The hills are alive with the sound of ....



... IED's*





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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 02:01 AM
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33. The (little) nut doesn't fall too far from the nut tree, does it? n/t
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 09:38 AM
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34. Was this right after the soldiers buried Iraqi troops alive? Arms & things sticking out...
U.S. BURIED IRAQI SOLDIERS ALIVE IN (FIRST) GULF WAR. News Report September 1991
From THE CATHOLIC WORKER, Page Three, March-April 1992 edition - Poem by Denise Levertov

"What you saw was a bunch of trenches with arms sticking out."
"Plows mounted on tanks. Combat earthmovers." "Defiant." "Buried."Carefully planned and rehearsed"
"When we went through there wasn't anybody left."

"Awarded Silver Star." "Reporters banned" "Not a single American killed."
"Bodycount impossible." "For all I know, thousands, said Colonel Moreno."
"What you saw was a bunch of buried trenches with people's arms and things sticking out."
"Secretary Chaney made no mention."
"Every single American was inside the juggernaut impervious to small-arms fire."
"I know burying people like that sounds pretty nasty," said Colonel Maggart, "But..."
"His force buried about six hundred and fifty in a thinner line of trenches."
"People's arms sticking out." "Every American inside." "The juggernaut." "I'm not going to sacrifice the lives of my soldiers, Moreno said, it's not cost-effective."
"The tactic was designed to terrorize, Lieutenant Colonel Hawkins said, who helped devise it."
"Schwartzkopf's staff privately estimated fifty to seventy thousand killed in the trenches."

"Private Joe Queen was awarded a Bronze Star for burying trenches with his earthomover."
"Inside the juggernaut." "Impervious." "A lot of guys were scared, he said, but I enjoyed it."
"A bunch of trenches. People's arms and things sticking out." "Cost-effective."

So long as it was cost-effective that makes it okay, yes?

http://tapsearch.com/tapartnews/id21.html


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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 11:14 AM
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37. Geneva Conventions breaches - Flashback to Iraq 1991

http://fremantlebiz.livejournal.com/2004/06/05/

Geneva Conventions breaches - Flashback to Iraq 1991
I wrote the following essay during the first US-Iraq War, which became known as Desert Storm.

BURYING WOUNDED SOLDIERS WITHOUT OFFENDING THE GENEVA CONVENTION: A GOD GIVEN ABILITY?

By Paul R. Weaver
24 September 1991

Unofficial estimates of the number of Iraqi soldiers killed in Desert Storm in 1991 have ranged between 100,000 and 300,000, although the United States military has denied these figures, and still chooses to keep their estimations secret. A western television journalist in Baghdad said after the conclusion of Desert Storm that such high figures were not probable because there were few injured soldiers to be seen in the streets of the major Iraqi cities. The rational being that even if the Iraqi forces had experienced such massive losses in the battle, then there would still have been a proportional number of wounded who survived to limp back into civilisation.

On the morning of 13th of September this year the BBC World Service revealed to the world at large what happened to some of those wounded men when it broadcast an admission by a Pentagon spokesman that after the “Desert Storm” battles many wounded Iraqis were buried alive by American bulldozers, as they lay in and about their trenches.

...

A glance through the Geneva Convention document suggests that the Pentagon spokesman had a right to be nervous, because within it there are many provisions which appear to expressly forbid what the American soldiers have done, as can be seen in the following extracts:

Article 3 (2). “The wounded and sick shall be collected and cared for.”

Article 12. “...wounded or sick, shall be respected and protected in all circumstances... Any attempts upon their lives, or violence to their persons, shall be strictly prohibited; in particular, they shall not be murdered or exterminated...”

...
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 06:34 PM
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41. OVERWHELMING FORCE






http://www.polyconomics.com/sy.html

OVERWHELMING FORCE

What happened in the final days of the Gulf War?

BY SEYMOUR HERSH

I -- THE WAR ACCOLADES

Barry McCaffrey has the best resume of any retired combat general in the United States Army. The son of a distinguished general, he attended Phillips Academy, in Andover, Massachusetts, and West Point, and in 1966 was assigned to South Vietnam as a platoon leader. He served two combat tours, winning two Distinguished Service Crosses, two Silver Stars, and three Purple Hearts. He returned from Vietnam with a shattered left arm, which was saved only after two years of operations and rehabilitation. McCaffrey's career continued to be exemplary: he earned a master's degree, taught at West Point, and, as he moved up through the ranks, became an outspoken leader within the Army for women's rights and the rights of minorities. He had, as the journalist Rick Atkinson has noted, "the chiseled good looks of a recruiting poster warrior: hooded eyes; dark, dense brows; a clean, strong jawline; hair thick and gun-metal gray." He radiated command presence.

In June of 1990, as a two-star major general, McCaffrey was put in charge of the 24th Infantry Division (Mechanized), at Fort Stewart, Georgia. He was then forty-seven, and the Army's youngest division commander. Two months later, Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait, and McCaffrey took the 24th's tanks, guns, and more than eighteen thousand soldiers (eventually, there were twenty-six thousand) from its home base to Saudi Arabia in preparation for the Persian Gulf War. The 24th's mission was to drive more than two hundred miles into Iraq -- the famed "left hook" maneuver -- and block the retreat of Iraqi forces from the war zone in Kuwait. In an account written after the war, U.S. News & World Report praised McCaffrey for leading what one officer called "the greatest cavalry charge in history." More promotions came McCaffrey's way, and he eventually earned four stars, the Army's highest peacetime rank.

McCaffrey announced his retirement from the Army in January of 1996, when President Clinton brought him into the Cabinet as the director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy. In that position, McCaffrey serves as the architect of and main spokesman for the Clinton Administration's $1.6-billion plan to provide, among other things, more training and weapons for the Colombian Army in an effort to cut drug production and export.

The Iraqis offered only disorganized and ragged opposition to the American invasion, in February of 1991, and the much feared ground war quickly turned into a bloody rout, with many of the retreating Iraqi units, including the elite Republican Guard, being pounded by American aircraft, artillery, and tanks as they fled north in panic along a six-lane road from Kuwait City to Basra, the major military stronghold in southern Iraq. The road became littered with blackened tanks, trucks, and bodies; the news media called it the "highway of death." The devastation, which was televised around the world, became a symbol of the extent of the Iraqi defeat -- and of American military superiority -- and it was publicly cited as a factor in President George Bush's decision, on February 28th, to declare a cessation of hostilities, ending the killing, and to call for peace talks. That decision, which is still controversial today, enabled Saddam's Army to survive the war with many units intact, and helped keep the regime in power. In "The Generals' War," by Michael R. Gordon and Bernard E. Trainor, Bush explained that he and his advisers were concerned about two aspects of the situation: "If we continued the fighting another day, until the ring was completely closed, would we be accused of a slaughter of Iraqis who were simply trying to escape, not fight? In addition, the coalition was agreed on driving the Iraqis from Kuwait, not on carrying the conflict into Iraq or on destroying Iraqi forces."
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 09:53 AM
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35. Remember boys, if you ever bail from a plane , be graceful in departure.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 11:25 AM
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38. This pic is what Shrub's Iraq Attack is ALL about: avenging Poppy's embarrassments
A main component of humor, irony, satire, etc., is a VAST DISPARITY between compared items---here, between the Poppy of Arabia moment and the troops' just sitting there. Gosh, it couldn't be more embarrassing than if Poppy had donned the white robes Peter O'TOOLE used, or flapped himself around MORE. (Absolutely NO disparagement of O'TOOLE intended or implied.)
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 06:28 PM
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39. "If ye be men, follow me!" In his dreams.
"Actually, Soldier, you go that way, out into the sand. I'm headin' back to the States."
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 06:56 PM
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42. tie clips and key rings

Photograph by: Diana Walker, 1990
During a visit to Saudi Arabia during Thanksgiving, President Bush tosses souvenir tie clips and key rings to the soldiers..........


Poppy thought of it like Mardi Gras, nothing like the realization of a war to get the BFEE into a celebration mood.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 08:27 PM
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44. Yes, the troops in Saudi Arabia really,really need tie clips.
He probably got them free from some Chinese factory that he directed business to.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 09:10 PM
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45. I remember THIS pix of Poppy:
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 09:18 PM
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46. I guess Barbara's the one with the overactive sweat glands.
Or else Poppy uses some mighty fine anti-perspirant.
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