Enough John Wayne already!! I realize it's the 100th anniversary

[monmouth]

but this has been going on for three days now. Of course the fact he was a raving Repuke who never passed up a drink isn't all that bothersome, but TCM, AMC and TNT have shown nothing but Wayne for the last three days. Good cowboy, certainly no great actor, give me three days of Bogart or Pacino..hmmm, that'd be good. Enough of Duke already...

[NastyRiffraff]

1. Oh, good, I missed the whole thing

And I'm glad.

[SeattleGirl]

2. I had no idea about that, but was thinking today that I am so sick and

tired of the whole John Wayne mentality so many people in this country (and certainly pResident Dumbass) have. What the fuck is wrong with a little peace and prosperity? What the fuck is wrong with actually HELPING people, both here and abroad? I'm tired of the cowboy swagger, which is nothing but destructive.

[opihimoimoi]

22. Thanks, ya made me laugh...Bush the Wannabe John Wayne but failed, has the swagger

Altho kinda an empty swagger if one could call it that....maybe more like the Wimpy Waffle Shuffle....

[SeattleGirl]

30. Wimpy Waffle Shuffle!

ROFL! And then, he combines it with his little girlie wave! :rofl:

[Fridays Child]

3. The 100th anniversary of what?

I had to use the Orange County, CA airport, frequently, a few years ago, and I detested that statue of him, out in front. Made me want to :puke: .

[monmouth]

8. I think his age and career combined. Sorry, should have written that..

[MH1]

4. John Wayne? shouldn't we be talking about Rachel Carson?

Who was born 100 years ago tomorrow.

http://rch.extranet.bbfsol.com/Default.aspx?tabid=97

[Captain Hilts]

5. Katie Hepburn got similar treatment, but she made much fewer films than he. nt

[speedoo]

6. He was a fucking war enabler. I hope he's in hell.

Yeah, I do.

Third rate actor, phony patriot, chickenhawk.

[Bluzmann57]

7. Marion Morrison is pretty big in Iowa

Of course, he was born here. But he wasn't much of an actor, imo. And I have said that very thing on occasion and my goodness, you'd think I said that Billy Graham was a communist or something.

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. Of what? Having two first names?

[Hand]

10. Hey, it's Hank Williams Jr.'s birthday, too!

Also Lenny Kravitz and Stevie Nicks, among others! :party:

Also the centenary of Charlton Young, who starred in Reefer Madness! :rofl:

[Tulum_Moon]

29. Who gives a shit!

I hate that bastard Hank Jr. Piece of dog dung. As for the others who cares.

[Greeby]

11. Is that you, John Wayne? Is this me?

;)

[SoCalDem]

12. Hollywood shaped our image of warfare.. even now..

Every war is compared to the Giganto-WWII-gasm that the moviemakers gave us. they made the training films, they sent videographers with the troops, they made the newsreels and they re-wrote stories to make into movies that everyone alive now has seen at one time or another..then those movies have been REmade to fit current or recent wars..

Is it any wonder why so many people are "war-lovers"?
Movies & movie stars sanitized warfare and made it "safe to watch".. they made it "boffo box-office" and a tradition..

[rpannier]

13. Like it or not he was/is a superstar

He is one of the few actors/actresses that is recognized around the world both by name and by face.

[monmouth]

14. So is Boris Karloff....

[rpannier]

15. Not in the same vein

Many people around the world don't know Karloff unless you mention the Frankenstein movies.
Not so with John Wayne.
John Wayne is recognized by name and by face.

I've lived in Korea for a decade and prior ro that I lived in Europe.
There are very few people who are recognized the world over by name: Ali, Michael Jordan and John Wayne are 3 people who are.

[Spinzonner]

27. So what did they think of

The Conqueror ?

[rpannier]

32. I asked my wife

She said it was awful -- She's Korean

[azurnoir]

16. Gee I missed it

did they show the one where he played Ghenghis Khan? A truly unforgettable performance :rofl:

[Zomby Woof]

17. He was a draft dodger

And a closet case, which has been masked well by his wingnut worshippers who buy into his tough guy image.

A shitty actor too, which combined with his fascist politics and racism, makes his legacy completely worthless. He is one of the worst pop cultural icons in American history, bar none.

[alarimer]

18. I think the Drive-by Truckers said it best in their song "Iwo Jima"

Talking about a guy who actually served in WWII

"And I never saw John Wayne in the sands of Iwo Jima"

Just because he was in the movie, people think he must of been there. Of course he was also in the Green Berets movie, although he was too old and fat by then to be an actual paratrooper.

Yeah, he served just like Ronald Reagan did.

[cmkramer]

33. Ronald Reagan was in the cavalry

He did serve during World War (( although he ended up in Special Services which is where most show business types went. Wayne got out of serving because he had a family and that was considered an extenuating circumstance to not being drafted. And were they drafting men in their thirties back then?

You know, Jimmy Stewart's son was killed in Viet Nam. Did any of John Wayne's sons serve? His two oldest sons were probably too old - they'd have been draft age in the 1950's - and I'm guessing his younger sons might have been too young.

They showed one of my favorite John Wayne movies yesterday afternoon - "Big Jim McLain" which is about rooting out Commies in Hawaii. It's terrible propaganda but what a guilty pleasure! It makes "The Green Berets" look subtle by comparison.

[DURHAM D]

19. When I clicked on this thread I fully expected that

someone would have posted that pic of him wearing espadrilles, carrying a man purse and showing his business. Rumors always persisted that he was gay; thus the tough guy image was so important to his market value. Anyway, all has apparently been forgiven by the righties.

Note: I would post the picture but I don't know how.

[Zomby Woof]

20. Here ya go

I first saw this in Spy magazine back in the early 90's and it confirmed what I always suspected.

As Frank Zappa pointed out in his autobiography, describing Wayne's drunken behavior at the Whiskey A-Go-Go in L.A. in 1965 - Wayne looks at Zappa onstage and says "I saw that guy in Egypt once! He BLEW me!"

[DURHAM D]

21. Isn't that priceless?

You mentioned that he was closeted. I assume you mean closeted from the straight community. Wasn't it pretty well known in the gay community?

[Zomby Woof]

23. I have no idea

It seems that he is closeted from his fans, or mainstream Americans in general. Or they are in denial.

[Captain Hilts]

26. Connery, pretty much wore the same outfits in Bond movies.

That's what a lot of men wore.

ps. Wearing tuxedo pumps didn't make you gay either.

[monmouth]

24. I wonder if Maureen O'Hara knew about him. She does a thing

on either AMC or TCM about their friendship, etc.

[1620rock]

25. He was the epitome of the "ugly American".

[Peregrine Took]

28. She injured her back in "The Quiet Man" the way he dragged her around.

As I recall from her autobiography she needed surgery afterwards.

[michreject]

31. He's been on TCM, AMC and TNT-- Yikes

I've been too busy watching 100 hours of John Wayne on Starz Western channel. Didn't get off the couch yesterday.:hide: