Michael Moore's words about Gore tonite on Maher's show moved me.

[BigBearJohn]

"I really hope he gets into the race not only because
he's been right about global warming, he's been
right about the health care issues, he was right
about the war in Iraq before it began, he was
out there on a limb saying those things that the
other candidates now are trying to catch up to,
but I also thought the country maybe would like
perhaps a moment of redemption to right the
wrong that happened six years ago."

[orleans]

1. nice words. wish i had been able to see it.

did you see al gore on charlie rose? he was GREAT!

[Dark]

74. It's on YouTube (surprise)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6k9e4c1-Jg

[orleans]

86. thanks for the link. it was great! n/t

[laheina]

2. Awesome!

I can't wait to watch it. :)

[Rosemary2205]

3. It's too late to right that wrong.

The schmucks who voted for the BFEE can't undo all those dead people.

[Lindsey]

4. I also was moved by Michael Moore's comments and then a couple

of hours after Bill Maher's show I had the priviledge of seeing Al Gore on Charlie Rose. OMG - Gore MUST run. I feel it in my bones. He has everything we need in a leader. I will pray, visualize, donate money, pound the pavement, and whatever else it takes to finally have what we should have had all along - President Al gore.

[WildEyedLiberal]

5. LOL! The irony overwhelms me

"I also thought the country maybe would like
perhaps a moment of redemption to right the
wrong that happened six years ago."

This country? How about YOU, Michael Moore - one of Nader's most vocal supporters. Didn't have such kind words to say about Al Gore six years ago, did you? Same as Bush, you told us. Not a dime's worth of difference.

Don't even try to claim the moral high ground about the election of 2000, Michael Moore. You're part of why Bush got elected that year.

[sellitman]

6. I agree. Screw this self serving , publicity seeking hypocrite.

Until he admits he was wrong he gets no respect from me.

None.

[Beelzebud]

19. He personally apologized to Gore on Franken's show and Real Time.

But I guess that's not good enough for the Democratic Pure.

[madmunchie]

20. Moore, unlike some here, is a human being and made a mistake

Again, unlike others, he apologized face to face AND then went on and actually did some really powerful things to right the results of that wrong...... Wow! Let's still nail him to the wall, because NO other Democrat in Washington has EVER done wrong. That is why some will vote for the perfect and only the perfect Dems...my question....where are they? Have I been introduced? I'd like a current list still in office please.

[uberllama42]

71. And is Gore one of these perfect Dems?

Why is it that everyone here ignores all of Gore's unpleasant aspects? I know your post is about forgiveness, but I don't think people here give enough consideration to the fact that Al Gore used to work for an oil company. While he was in the Senate and the Clinton administration he sponsored several environmentally harmful policies.

[frogcycle]

80. "used to work for an oil company"

damn, burn him at the frigging stake!

[uberllama42]

83. I forget who said it, but

someone once said that Condoleezza Rice once worked for an oil company and that means that she is not fit to be in our government. I tend to aggree.

[frogcycle]

96. simplistic and spurious

she is not fit to be in government for many, many much better reasons.

Using someone's stupid comment about her to make a stupid comment about Gore is lame.

[madmunchie]

99. "The Perfect Dem" Doesn't exiist.

That is my point. I look at the whole enchilada and then go for a decision.... The Perfect anything doesn't exist. BUT there are a lot of things in which we could look at and use to choose the best candidates. Gore is up there with his qualifications and so on and so forth......more so than just about any other candidate up there right now. He is definetly the best choice that we don't have right now.

[sellitman]

36. Show me. Give me a link.

Here is what I found:

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=express&s=zengerle040104

It clearly says that Moore did not apologize.

[LibraLiz1973]

49. All I can tell you is I personally saw and heard

with my own two eye and two ears Bill Maher & Michael Moore admit THEY WERE WRONG in 2000.
They did it on Mahers show about 2 years ago.

[zalinda]

85. I remember that show, I think

I know he was on a Maher show and both he and Maher got on their knees to Nader and begged him not to run. That was quite a scene.

zalinda

[KharmaTrain]

95. Yep...They Begged Nader Not To Run...No Appology For Gore

I remember that show very well...and the premise was not that Moore and Mahrer were sorry for not supporting Gore or for supporting Nader, but that they were pleading with Nader not to run in '04 (this coming out after it had been uncovered Nader was taking money from Repugnican operatives).

I have never heard Moore appologize for his support of Nader...if anything, in the months following the election he was proud of that vote.

Honestly, I don't think Michael Moore moved many votes for Nader or that his support will mean Democratic party votes...au contrare, he became a right wing punching bag and probably won more votes for booooshie than he lost.

[The Count]

52. I heard him apologize on the first Franken show (AAR start), and say it again

that he was wrong on Maher show. He was very vocal on the stolen election - at least the 2000 one - so those who missed the boat in 2004 should STFU (talking about candidates keeping mum)

[Taverner]

67. That was April 2004. He has since apologized.

[closeupready]

48. It's too bad that some people can't build bridges when the chance presents itself.

Holding grudges may feel good but it won't help get your candidate elected.

[deutsey]

56. No, it's easier being pissed at Moore than trying to do something about

the real crime that happened in 2000: the disenfranchisement of TENS of THOUSANDS of our fellow citizens and the Reagan/Bush SCOTUS thwarting the electoral process and handing the election to a fascist dickwad. Also, mainstream media complicity in perpetrating this fraud on the public. And while I'm at it, the fucking public too, for that matter, for being too ignorant and complacent to even care.

Nader... :eyes: please...

[uberllama42]

72. Thank you.

Some sense, finally. The real crime is not Ralph's stubbornness, it's the contempt for democracy exhibited by the GOP. All of this anger is misplaced.

[mmonk]

9. He supported Wes Clark though last time

[Clark2008]

24. And he was right, then, too.

Clark would have beaten Bush because he would have picked up some Southern and mid-Western states - more than just the contested Ohio.

Clark's biggest problem is and was the Dem primary.

[politicasista]

51. Hindsight is 20-20. We need to move forward, not look back n/t

[Divine Discontent]

34. yes, he did! :)

and that was GREAT to see, as the General was a breath of fresh air in Democratic politics. Although there's a few bad apples on here that give people a bad taste, the general himself is charming, witty, and most importantly a great leader with brains!

On Moore - wow, his appearance on Maher was amazing, thank God for youtube.


www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- check it out, top '08 stuff

[WildEyedLiberal]

46. He's talking now about what a great guy Al Gore is and how America made a huge mistake in 2000

I think it's extremely disingenuous for him to go on and on about the mistake "America" made in 2000 when Moore was very adamantly against Gore in that very election.

[IndyOp]

13. I have a lot of anger about the Naderites in 2000, too - still

I think that the GOP was ready to steal the election BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY -- they had an army on the ground in FLA and could've stolen however many votes would've gone to Gore if the Naderites had voted for Gore.

Gore's Victory

By Robert Parry -- November 12, 2001
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2001/111201a.html

So Al Gore was the choice of Florida’s voters -- whether one counts hanging chads or dimpled chads. That was the core finding of the eight news organizations that conducted a review of disputed Florida ballots. By any chad measure, Gore won.

Gore won even if one doesn’t count the 15,000-25,000 votes that USA Today estimated Gore lost because of illegally designed “butterfly ballots,” or the hundreds of predominantly African-American voters who were falsely identified by the state as felons and turned away from the polls.

Gore won even if there’s no adjustment for George W. Bush’s windfall of about 290 votes from improperly counted military absentee ballots where lax standards were applied to Republican counties and strict standards to Democratic ones, a violation of fairness reported earlier by the Washington Post and the New York Times.

Put differently, George W. Bush was not the choice of Florida’s voters anymore than he was the choice of the American people who cast a half million more ballots for Gore than Bush nationwide.

Memory card used to subtract 16,000 votes from Gore in FLA 2000 -
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/IndyOp/13

Voting machines used in four Central Florida counties might be flawed.

There's new evidence that computer hackers could change election results without anyone knowing about it, WESH 2 News reported.

The supervisor of elections in Tallahassee tested voting machines several times over the last several months, and on Monday, his workers were able to hack into a voting machine and change the outcome. He said that same thing might have happened in Volusia County in 2000.

The big controversy revolves around a little black computer card that is smaller than a floppy disk and bigger than a flash drive. The card is inserted into voting machines that scan paper ballots. The card serves as the machine's electronic brain.

But when Ion Sancho, Leon County's Supervisor of Elections, tested the Diebold system and allowed experts to manipulate the card electronically, he could change the outcome of a mock election without leaving any kind of trail. In other words, someone could fix an election and no one would know.

"The expert that we used simply programmed it on his laptop in his hotel room," Sancho said.

Sancho began investigating the problem after watching the votes come in during the infamous 2000 presidential election. In Volusia County precinct 216, a memory card added more than 200 votes to George W. Bush's total and subtracted 16,000 votes from Al Gore. The mistake was later corrected during a hand count.

After watching his computer expert change vote totals this week, Sancho said that he now believes someone on the inside did the same thing in Volusia County in 2000.

"Someone with access to the vote center in Volusia County put it on a memory card and uploaded it into the main system," Sancho said.

Sancho has been raising red flags about the system for months after other hackers were able to change votes during earlier tests. But Sancho said he's gotten nowhere with the company or with the Florida secretary of state's office, which oversees elections.

"This raises serious questions as to the state of Florida's certification program," Sancho said.

[uberllama42]

75. Exactly.

The criminal operation in Florida was huge. This is more than a handful of votes. They were prepared to go through who knows what to get the White House.

[HardRocker05]

38. ooooh yeah, blame nader and nader voters for the shameless lack of principle or backbone shown by de

dems. here's a clue: if the only way dems can win is for them to stomp their feet and demand that all competition quit the race, well, they don't really deserve to win, do they? and btw, how exactly is nader responsible for the utterly spineles and self-serving actions of dems in congress? if a dem president would be anything like congressional dems, it looks like nader might be right about the dime's worth of difference.

[WildEyedLiberal]

47. So Gore has a "shamless lack of principle and backbone"?

No one's talking about the "Dems in Congress" except you, but nice red herring. Michael Moore actively campaigned for Ralph Nader in 2000 and made it clear in his book "Stupid White Men" that Gore was a pathetic candidate and that there'd be no real difference for the country regardless of whether Bush or Gore got elected.

Yeah, Nader was sooo right about the dime's worth of difference, wasn't he? Give me a break. Nader and his apologists are as responsible for this crap as the people who voted for Bush the first time.

[KurtNYC]

58. So ralph nader rigged the florida election in 2000?

Gore did not attack B*sh in the 2000 campaign. And Gore acted as if Clinton was guilty of something horrible. Gore didn't fight for the victory that the voters gave him...

but you blame Nader and Moore?

[WildEyedLiberal]

62. Had Nader voters voted for Gore, Bush wouldn't have had the margin to steal FLA

But that's not even the real point I'm making. My point is that it's awfully damn ironic to hear Michael Moore wax poetic about what a great American Al Gore is, because when it mattered - six years ago - Moore spent a lot of time and money convincing people to vote against him.

[KurtNYC]

65. Neither Nader nor Moore have a seat on the SCOTUS

and I don't think you are advocating a strict 2 party system (?) but the key point is:

Gore won Florida - how can Gore's stuffing defeat into the jaws of victory be blamed on Moore. Gore won! In spite of a tepid campaign.

Michael Moore does not count the votes or stop the counting of votes in Florida. The SCOTUS did. And Gore won the nationwide popular vote and he won Florida.

[uberllama42]

84. Now there I agree with you.

Six years ago Gore was a lying, polluting, warmongering, corrupt hypocrite. Why isn't he now? It's not consistant.

[WildEyedLiberal]

89. Go troll your anti-Gore shit somewhere else

There are a lot of people who have suffered due to Bush's presidency who are probably REALLY not in the mood for your pathetic extremist "but he's as bad as Bush" bullshit.

[uberllama42]

76. I have been reading about Gore

and I don't believe there is a dime's worth of difference between Bush and Gore, not until after 2000. They are both groomed rich boys who got into politics on their fathers' names. They both worked for oil companies, they both used their fathers' influence to avoid combat in Vietnam, and they both pushed environmentally harmful policies before their runs for President. In fact, until about 2002, the men were largely indistinguishable. Gore had a series of failed endeavours just like Bush, and they both accepted campaign contributions from criminal corporations. Gore supported military actions by Clinton in Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Sudan, and Somalia. He also did not object to abrogations of our civil liberties by Clinton/Reno. Granted, today Gore exhibits an almost Jeffersonian intelligence while Bush is dumb as rock, but how are we supposed to predict how two similar individuals will be different six years from now?

True, things would have been different in several ways if Gore were elected, but there is no way Moore could have known that when he wrote "Stupid White Men." As far as I can tell, the two men did not diverge significantly until 2002, a year after the book was published.

[frogcycle]

81. one has a brain, the other does not n/t

[zalinda]

87. Just so you get it right

Gore DID NOT grow up rich. His father did not make money until after Al was grown up. He went to good schools because of his father in DC, but spent summers at the farm working as a farm hand. He went to Vietnam not as a soldier but as a journalist, which could have been just as dangerous as a combat soldier, as we have seen in Iraq.

There were a great many untruths told about Al Gore, and still are. And, when you are Vice President you are supposed to support what your President does, that's your job.

I'm sorry, but I saw a great deal of difference between the two men in 2000. I KNEW that we were going to be in BIG trouble if Bush got into office. I was pissed at Nader then, and still am pissed at him. There is NOTHING that anyone can say that will ever make me forgive that man and what he has done to this country. I don't think I have ever hated anyone so much in my life. He knew damn well he would NEVER win, but he ran anyway just for ego stroking. He didn't care what was going to happen to this country. As a matter of fact, I think he's said he's happy that this country has gone down this road, so now we can change our ways. Hate, hate, hate this man.

zalinda

[uberllama42]

94. The point is not that he grew up rich,

but that he was groomed by a rich father for a political career. He was a rear echelon journalist and was never near any combat.

I know that there are many lies told about Gore, but I do my best to keep my criticism factual. I never trot out the Internet thing, because not only was that taken out of context but it was true. I never bring out the Love Canal thing because that was a deliberate fabrication by Rupert Murdoch's lie outlets. And he was part of the inspiration for a character in that one book. I try to avoid those obvious lies.

I have to disagree about supporting your President. When your conscience protests, I think it is your duty to resign.

If you saw any difference between the two at the time you are smarter than I am. The more I read about Gore's background, the more he seems like Bush. I must apologize for making a personal criticism, but I see a problem if there's NOTHING that can convince you to take up a different position. If no amount of evidence and reasoned argument can change your opinion, then I think you need to reconsider the way you approach arguments.

[zalinda]

97. Sorry, but the more I read and hear about Nader

the more it just confirms my right to hate him. And if you have to still continue to make excuses for your vote for him, then that's what you have to live with. BTW, I did have respect for him until he ran, then all his ego came flooding out, big confirmation in 2004.

It was easy to see that Bush had failed at everything he had tried, and was always being bailed out by one rich guy or another. Even Governor of Texas is basically a figure head job, or at least that's the way he ran it. And Dick Cheney, gave me the creeps. All you had to do was listen to Gore and Bush and you could tell the difference. Bush gave feel good generalities while Gore gave specific things he wanted to do. Compassionate conservative vs. lock box.

zalinda

[THUNDER HANDS]

39. In 2000, at madison square garden....

I was standing not five feet from Moore, Susan Sarandon, Eddie Vedder, Tim Robbins, Ben Harper and Patti Smith as they praised Ralph Nader and said Gore and Bush were virtually identical.

I wish I still had my tape recorder from that day, I'd love to go back and see exactly what they said at the time.

Ah, memories.

[hfojvt]

40. he flipped about a week before the election

In "Stupid White Men" I recall that he claims he tried to insure that Bush would not win:

"In Stupid White Men, Michael Moore says he rejected Nader's invitation to join him in the battleground states as the election neared. Instead, Moore chose to work only "in those states where Ralph could get a lot of votes without being responsible for Bush winning the election." Places like New York, California, Massachusetts, and such liberal enclaves as Bush's own Austin, Texas, as Chait puts it, "offered the richest harvest of potential votes." This is what Reform Party candidate Patrick Buchanan did. Nader took precisely the opposite tack. He spent the last days of the campaign in swing states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and, especially, Florida, which according to Sellers he visited five times all told. Pennsylvania and Michigan went Democratic, but Nader forced Gore to expend time and resources on states he should have had in his pocket. And in Florida, though Nader's poll numbers dipped from 6 percent to 4 to his final 1.6, his 97,488 voters tipped the election. "

http://www.hereinstead.com/Village-Voice--Ralph-Nader--Levine.htm

[kimmerspixelated]

44. Hold on a minute,

I specifically remember Moore begging Nader not to run, on his hands and knees!.. in 2004 ON the Maher show!!!

[WildEyedLiberal]

45. In *2004*

In 2000 Moore enthusiastically endorsed Nader and wrote extensively in his book "Stupid White Men" about what a terrible, milquetoast, Republican-lite poser Al Gore was and that there'd be no discernible difference for America regardless of who won the 2000 election.

[KurtNYC]

54. B*sh did NOT get elected that year!

and THAT is part of what Moore is saying.

Gore ran way from Clinton at the end of their term. Gore made his own administration seem guilty by trying so hard to distance himself from Bill Clinton. On the "BJ = impeachment meme" there wasn't much difference between Gorand the Right.

[WildEyedLiberal]

61. Nader got 4% of the vote. Bush's theft in Florida was less than 500 votes

The Nader votes helped Bush steal the election.

[Chemical Bill]

73. *'s theft in Florida was at least tens of thousands of votes.

If Nader hadn't been there he just would have stolen more. Remember the precinct that had 1602 negative Gore votes? When that was discovered, publicized, and corrected, the repugs had to call out the storm troops and the supremes. How many precincts were altered like that? We'll never know, but rest assured that *'s minions would have done whatever they had to do.

Bill

[uberllama42]

77. "Bush's theft in Florida was less than 500."

This is simply not true. I would ask that you acquaint yourself with the facts. Tens of thousands of Gore votes were thrown out. You should be able to find a copy of Greg Palast's "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" at your local library. If not, you could try a bookstore, or, if you are comfortable doing such, you could give me your address and I will mail you my copy.

[zalinda]

88. Gore listened to his advisors and distanced himself

from Clinton so he could be out of Clinton's shadow. Remember Clinton was still very popular and probably would have been elected again. He got stupid advice and never thought the press would turn on him and have a love fest with Bush.

zalinda

[DefenseLawyer]

59. You honestly don't think Gore has changed?

You can slam Moore for not supporting Gore, but Gore ran the most cautious, middle of the road, DLC campaign in the history of the party. Hell he barely even mentioned the environment in 2000. I am Gore supporter, but I think even Gore would tell you that he was at the very least "mis-advised" in 2000. Al Gore is his own man now. We can debate whether he was back then too, but there is no debate that he is now.

[WildEyedLiberal]

60. Does that mean you think Gore was no different than Bush even in 2000?

I doubt you believe that. But Michael Moore sure did and spent a lot of his own time and money convincing other people that Nader was the choice of progressives in this country.

This line of argument only holds up if you really believe that Bush defeating Gore was, in the grand scheme of things, not significant.

[DefenseLawyer]

82. I don't think the Gore of 2000 was radically different

from what most people believed Bush would be. Different? Yes. Was Gore the better choice? Yes. Did Bush turn out to be MUCH worse than I think anyone could have imagined? Yes. My point is not at all to say there was no difference between Bush and Gore, rather to point out that Gore wasn't exactly courting progressives in the 2000 campaign. Quite the contrary.

[mudesi]

63. It is a fallacy to say Nader voters cost Gore the election

Nader voters wouldn't have bothered to even vote had Nader not run. Nader did not cost Gore the election.

[BrklynLiberal]

68. That thought flitted through my mind as I heard Moore utter those words.

I remember what a staunch Nader guy Moore was back then. Hopefully he includes himself among those who must repent.

[uberllama42]

70. Ralph Nader had almost nothing to do with Gore's loss

Do you seriously think that, after all the criminal things Bush and his cronies did to steal the election, if Nader dropped out of the race at the end and Gore won Florida by a small margin, they would have just let the results stand? "Oh, okay, well, we came close, but, since Al got more votes, we'll just let it go. He deserves this." The GOP would have taken the election regardless of Nader's presence. And the simple fact is, Gore got more votes in Florida that Bush did, even with Nader in the race. The fact that hundreds of thousands of Gore votes were not counted is not Ralph's fault. What's more, Gore has never decried in public the racist vote purges in Florida and other states, while Nader has. Nader seems to care more about Gore's voters than Gore does. Gore was in a position as President of the Senate to draw attention to the problem and, I don't know, maybe try to fix it. But he didn't. So I really don't see where Nader gets any blame in this situation.

[truedelphi]

79. I too get concerned that Gore was President of the Senate at the time

Clinton stood by as well.

And also in 2000, Michael Moore was not yet a mega-millionaire - his support as a maker of a few worthy but not monster hits at the movies hardly made Mike's endorsement that big a deal.

Plus wouldn't the time and energy he put into Fahreinheit 9/11 give him some redemption?

[clixtox]

90. Talking About An Inconvenient Truth. So Wrong, But An Easy Mistake...

To make if you are gullible. The reality of what happened in Florida in 2000 has been hashed out many, many times here on DU. It is the anti-democratic Democrats who espouse and perpetuate this canard. It will not die because there are too many entrenched interests who depend on the "two party system" to maintain their hegomony.

If anyone does not understand what I am writing here, please go use the dictionary and read about recent history. You are being duped to continue to blame anyone but the Republicans and the Supreme Court for Gore "losing" in Florida. I have to blame Gore and his handlers a little bit also, actually more than Nader, for letting the Florida situation slip away into the lost column even though, as it turned out, he actually received more votes.

All those who are still blaming Nader for Bushit being the President are only displaying their unwillingness to learn the facts and make up their own mind(s). Save your vitriol for those who really deserve it. Nader has truly been an American hero for about fifty years, lies and propaganda won't change that.

We can only hope that Gore has figured out what this country needs and that he has new advisors. I am sure that Gore would do much better in 2008 if he was nominated again.

[malaise]

7. I missed it. Damn. n/t

[IndyOp]

14. The video of Moore on Maher is UP -- just for you malaise...

:hi:

Moore wants Al Gore!

:bounce:

[malaise]

31. Thanks a lot

:D

[cooolandrew]

8. I do wonder sometimes that he isn't running because we are quite close to the abyss on this one, ...

... who'd want that rap. He is trying but with a world that has leaders that are far from progressive it doesn't inspire great optimism. He should run, take the chance whatever chance do we all have.

[orpupilofnature57]

10. Micheal Moore is the Thomas Paine of our Era ! Gore was the

choice of most Americans.

[zanne]

11. It was a great show last night

I think alot of people want to "right the wrong". I know I do, but as Moore said, he had the guts to say things that were true but unpopular. In my book, that's character.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

12. I heard Michael say that last night and was brought to tears when he said

"I also thought the country maybe would like
perhaps a moment of redemption to right the
wrong that happened six years ago."

Bravo Michael!

[izzybeans]

15. He must be feeling really guilty for opposing Gore in 2000.

[glitch]

17. He must. He's a thoughtful intelligent person who was lied to and betrayed.

Apparently even Michael Moore believed the corporate media back then. I think he has apologized though, if I recall he took out a full page ad somewhere. I may be wrong though, someone can correct me.

[depakid]

37. It had nothing to do with the corporate media

Gore's stands on the issues at the time were very similar to Clinton's.

Many people in the country knew that and were sick and tired of Republican lite- and sell out after sell out- just as they are now.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

64. moore backed nader in 2000

and the reasons for it were never addressed in the corporate media (nafta, globalization, welfare 'reform, etc)
actually, nader was ahead of al on this stuff.
but having the elction stole in 200 woke gore up. i think he's connected to the grassroots more than any possible candidate.
i stand by 2000 nader vote, but i'll commit my self to goree 110% should he run this time

[cascadiance]

26. I almost voted for Nader in 2000 too...

... though in the end I didn't, and I wasn't even in a battleground state (California).

I wasn't too happy with the "consultant run" campaign that Gore ran then, which tried more to "not be Clinton" than to be himself through much of it. Seeing him now though, I think he's learned a lot from that experience, and I fully support the way he's changed now, and would vote for him in a heartbeat. I'm guessing Moore has similar feelings.

[Usrename]

42. I'm convinced Lieberman would have succeeded him.

Had he won, big Al would not have survived past 9/11. I am convinced of that.

And the plan B despot (Lieberman) would have been more maniacal than the one we got.

With the help of the DLC pushing Lieberman on us, 2000 amounted to a heads they win / tails we loose scenario.

We have to quit misunderestimating these monsters.

[BrklynLiberal]

69. There would not have been a "9/11" if Gore ahd been in the White House...

I firmly believe that.
BushCo allowed it to happen, at the minimum. Gore would not have.

[Usrename]

98. There would't have been a 9/11 if Jack Kenedy had not been shot.

There would not have been a 9/11 if Robert Kenedy had not been shot.

You can believe that too.

Gore would not have fared any better.

[Lugnut]

16. Hear frickin hear!

K&R

[Horse with no Name]

18. They moved me too

They were heartfelt, sincere and true.

[roamer65]

21. I voted for Gore in 1988 and 2000.

I'll campaign my ass off and vote for him again in 2008.

[mzmolly]

22. I never thought I'd be ahead of Moore on anything, but I am very proud to have

supported Gore in 2000 and beyond.

Thanks for sharing BigBearJohn. :hi:

[BigBearJohn]

53. You are quite welcome. I transcribed it from Tivo.

[proud patriot]

23. It gave me goosebumps

It is up to us to right the wrong perpetrated onto Al Gore .

We need to IMO

[neverforget]

25. Gore's my man for exactly the reasons stated by Moore. Gore, please run!

[earth mom]

28. Couldn't have said it better myself! Gore 2008! eom

[Laurab]

27. Me too - I think because he said it with such emotion

I think we need Al - I was ok with the candidates who have announced before, but now, not so much - I'm praying Gore jumps in.

[wryter2000]

29. Hmmm

Michael Moore wasn't too awfully helpful 6 years ago, as I recall.

[NastyDiaper]

30. Gore has not changed, *we* have.

Thanks to Shrub, I'm far more politically aware than I was in 2000.

I was pretty much a 'moran'. I need redemption. It's why I'm here.

[Cha]

32. Michael Moore said it exactly

correct, in a nut shell. Very emotional for me, too~

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[stlsaxman]

35. Redemption, indeed!

[kiteinthewind]

41. Kick for my President, Al Gore!

:kick:

[annabanana]

43. An American Mulligan, a do-over, karmic redemption. . a shout-out to

the rest of the world that we have kicked the dust of the crooks and liars from off our sandals and have rejoined the family of civilized nations...

[LibraLiz1973]

50. Kicking for my main man, President Al Gore

If he doesn't run I am going to be beside myself.

[Madspirit]

55. k&r...I LOVE Michael Moore...n/t

[Coexist]

57. yup.

[RestoreGore]

66. Too little too late n/t

[DesertRat]

78. Very well said. Thank you, Michael Moore! n/t

[krkaufman]

91. I only wish that he'd phrased that one bit as ...

"... he was right on Iraq before it began, he was out there on a limb saying those things that the other Democratic candidates now are trying to catch up to, and which the Republican candidates are still unable to accept."

[krkaufman]

92. Reminder: One more airing of Gore/Shearer discussion on CSPAN2/BookTV

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x967393

Sunday, May 27, noon Eastern.

[mountainvue]

93. I stood and applauded that statement in my living

room even though I was the only one here.