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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 08:38 PM
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The Obama Tax Cut is certain
Where are the jobs?

The Bush Tax cut didn't create any. Why would the Obama tax cut be any different?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 08:39 PM
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1. It won't. It will make rich people richer. nt
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 08:40 PM
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Another part of the agreed upon package, the drop in payroll taxes,
is supposed to stimulate job creation. But the effect won't be instant.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 08:43 PM
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4. How would cutting the SS deduction increase jobs??
Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 08:44 PM by BrklynLiberal
All it will do is ensure that the repukes will maintain that SS is unsustainable, since their plan to make those cuts permanent, and then dismantle it.

If anything, they cap on SS salary should have been removed. Everyone should pay SS deduction on their full salary.
That would ensure SS for at least the rest of this century and also make sure there were no cuts to those receiving it.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 09:04 PM
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5. The lower payments will put more money in the pockets of lower and middle class
families who are expected to spend most of that money, thus stimulating the economy. The tax cuts for the wealthy, OTOH, will likely go into savings, which won't stimulate the economy.

The unemployment checks are another important stimulus, since the people who get them almost always have to spend the whole thing.

I do support removing the cap on the SS salary.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 08:40 PM
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2. Why is that so obvious to some, and yet so opaque to others?
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 08:42 PM
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3. No it isn't - 41 Democrats can stop tax cuts for the rich.
They just need to stand firm, and JUST SAY NO.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 09:05 PM
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6. Yes if they're willing to jeopardize unemployment benefits, too. n/t
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 09:07 PM
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8. Again, the Republicans are bluffing! Make them squirm.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 09:11 PM
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9. They're not bluffing. They think people on UI are lazy bums.
And they know that unemployment benefits act as a stimulus to the economy, and they don't want that.

They want the economy to be as bad as possible when Obama runs for reelection, because they know the average voter (who isn't anything like you because s/he doesn't follow politics) will blame Obama and not them. They're hoping Obama will be swept out in a landslide of miserable voters, and that they'll get to run on the coattails of whatever Rethug heads the ticket.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 09:06 PM
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7. I think a little time management is in order shortly.
:evilgrin:
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:04 PM
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10. Your question was the obvious elephant in the room that the Republicans
and too many Dems failed to point out.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:06 PM
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11. It won't create jobs. It will create debt.
I'm not as averse to debt as some are, but only if it goes to the right places. This does not address anything but special interest BS.
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