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gaijinlaw Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:12 PM
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The persecution of Julian Assange
I've never read the The News International before today, but this editorial sums up my view of the wikileaks madness exactly. With a smack to Droopy Dawg (I-CT) as a bonus.

The rabidly reactionary character of the attacks on Wikileaks by all sorts of leaders from across the world political spectrum is astonishing. The US justice department and military intelligence have been considering an “active criminal probe” against Wikileaks. Some in the US have called for it to be designated a “terrorist organisation.” (For its members to be assaulted and assassinated?) The most ironic of these attacks, coming from Sen Joseph Lieberman, the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, condemns the leaks as “an offence against democracy and the principle of transparency”. The perversity of reaction – particularly in the US – knows no limits.


http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=18688&Cat=8
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:15 PM
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1. Rec'd. Perfect. Truth will out
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:20 PM
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2. The rabidly reactionary character of the attacks on Wikileaks
by all sorts of leaders from across the world political spectrum is astonishing.



The memos were known a few weeks ahead of the actual release (the US was going around warning other nations before the memos came out), and yet the calls for prosecution didnt happen when the release was made public, those only started after Assange made a point of saying the next release would be about a major bank.

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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:24 PM
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4. new jesus is going to dump sources (names) if he does not get his way...
is you live in North Korea, Iran, China, or many other places this guy just killed you.

Oh, and bradley will get the death penalty if we loose people because of him.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:31 PM
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7. Do you support killing journalism?
Wouild you be happier if the MSM decides what you need to know, or should there be room for real investigative journalists outside the corporate owned news feeds?
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:43 PM
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10. Journalisim will not cuff you to a chain link and shoot you in the head
the Iranian and Chinese security apparatus will for espionage. If he dumps names he owns the bodies.

Time to grow up folks.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:50 PM
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11. I see
So in your opinion we should just give in to the body politic and accept everything they tell us as the only truth that matters.

Im sorry, but thats a foolish idea.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:00 PM
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12. Lets drop the buzzword bullshit. If you live in Myanmar and your name comes up
some one will blow your fucking brains out. How shitty your life is prior to being executed is the only variable.

If he drops that name he should at least own up and take responsibility for the bodies.

Time to grow up and think about that for a moment. If you are ok with that to accomplish your agenda fine, someone makes the call how many civilians can die in air strikes all the time.

Just be sure you are aware of the decision and consequence.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:06 PM
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14. How many posts in a row are you going to talk about someone getting their brains blown out?
My pool number is 17.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:40 PM
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20. If I can divert the rage, I'll call it at 10!
Anyway, did you know in his childhood, Julian Assange used to kick puppies around the school playground? That's right. Every time someone talks about Wikileaks and the US ordering its diplomats to spy at the UN, an innocent puppy gets its butt kicked round a playground! ;)
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:16 PM
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16. Good thing Lee Harvey Oswald got a fair trial here.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:08 PM
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15. it's all a game to some
Edited on Sun Dec-05-10 11:10 PM by Bluerthanblue
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:05 PM
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13. "New jesus".
This is the second time in minutes you played that one lol. I guess "rapist" has lost it's punch.

You could just cut to the chase and call him Satan and be done with it. :crazy:
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:34 PM
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19. He's never even remotely intimated that he will reveal the names of his sources.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 01:09 AM
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24. I read a very strange rant the other day
by Greg Palast. He was slaming Assange for not protecting Manning. Maybe Greg was bending his elbow or something because Assange didn't reveal Brad, Brad did in a chatroom.
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 01:01 AM
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23. There is already generations of blood on the hands of the people being exposed.
Where is your contempt for those publicly owned and funded representatives who are said to govern in the interests of that public?

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_EXqJ8f-0>

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY>

An independent press is crucial to the survival of this democratic republic, and the one we have doesn't whisper a word of truth the PTB haven't scripted. You in no way rail against the unfairness that has made the actions of Wikileaks NECESSARY.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:23 PM
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3. My hunch is more than a few are pretty nervous about the banking
Edited on Sun Dec-05-10 10:25 PM by RKP5637
revelations to be released, maybe more so than what's been released to date. Who knows where, at what level, that will stop which might irritate the US masses / main street more than the political cables if the US masses / main street feel even more swindled by banking / wall street, etc.



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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:26 PM
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5. The bank stuff is legal, who cares. Actual whisteblowing, dumping names
of assets in places where they will die is not legal.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:37 PM
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8. Where has that happened?
Really, all this outs is the shady, illegal dealings our our government and others, and embarrassing things about our leaders.

Where are actual agents getting outed.

Also, the government has known about the leaking of those documents for months. Don't tell me they weren't able to pull low-level agents out of Dodge well ahead of time if there was any danger.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:41 PM
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9. new jesus is going to dump sources (names) if he gets arrested.
yeah the people who we cant pull out are going to die if this guy drops a dime on them. Its just that simple.

I bet his people are pretty fucked off about that, I would bet some of them would not like to be shot while checking their mail because their boss compromised US agents.

This changes the game if he dumps names, think post Munich.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:32 PM
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18. You have no idea what he'll dump if he gets arrested
It's pure speculation on your part. Perhaps he has a document detailing the secret to cold fusion and will dump that instead. I mean, as long as we're making stuff up...
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:27 PM
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6. this is the part I liked...
snip

What has been revealed is hardly something shocking to the world’s rulers in itself; it could not be, because it is they who said and did all those things. One view holds that it is actually the coming of rude sayings and dark doings into people’s knowledge that is dreaded; that the leaks are a target of rulers’ wrath because in many cases they expose connivance and collusion. by states big and small in political crimes against victims that now also include Yemeni civilians and Honduran peasants...

snip

The political establishment is reeling because Assange has devised a model that has dealt a deadly blow. Of course they know that if they eliminate Assange, a dozen or two others will adopt his strategy.

Nevertheless, they will pursue him, believing they should kill the chicken so the monkey doesn't act.


Cher



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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:21 PM
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17. "an offence against democracy and the principle of transparency"
Edited on Sun Dec-05-10 11:23 PM by unkachuck
....that's pretty heavy, traitor joe....I think there's a lighter moral to the story,

....when you leave your home tomorrow and go out into the world, be careful with whom you play....
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:45 PM
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21. Probably many of members of Wikileaks will be rounded up and
treated like enemy combatants including torture such as waterboarding.



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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:45 AM
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22. kicky k/r
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 08:53 AM
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25. The stooge he got to steal the material he posted is in jail
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