I've had it up to HERE.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

Rice gets a subpoena- she ignores it. It, along with the entire subject, disappears. Gonzo gets a subpoena. He ignores it. It, along with the entire subject, disappears. Cheney, Rove... all the other players have that piece of paper waved at them, and they kinda chuckle and flip the bird. It, along with the entire subject, disappears.

Waxman, Conyers, etc. Hearings, TV cameras, questions without answers, past treasonable actions slip by because of faulty memory chips, and that's okay because NEXT WEEK WE'RE GONNA CALL (fill in the blank here) and THEN we're gonna get some ANSWERS.

Talk. Nod and wink. Smirk. Play the game, sweat a little for the people to see, then go back to work and screw the nation some more. No biggie, 'cause we're finally doing something about it.

Riiiiiight.

So here come those who say "No, no, we're really finally DOING SOMETHING. Just have patience, little boy- you obviously don't see the big picture."

A-yep. Small steps, Ellie. An inch at a time and before you know it they'll all be in jail, smirking outward from behind the bars.

You will, please, pardon me when in my ignorance and naievite I state I simply do not believe it any more. It's bullshit. One hundred percent Grade A horse hockey.

The days of "He's TOAST" are over. The heady times of "We're back in charge so THINGS ARE GONNA HAPPEN NOW, OBOY" lasted all of one hundred hours. The moment of belief in the possibility of ending an unjust, bloody war has been flung back into our collective face, hidden no less by a deceptive parliamentary trick devised by OUR OWN PEOPLE.

They simply do not care. They do not recognize that it is WE who signs their paychecks. They do not acknowledge that WE are their employers. They do not care that it is OUR nation they are helping to send into utter chaos.

Which is why I tell them now to pay attention. I am only going to say this once, but I say it with all seriousness and damn it, I refer to the Democrats AND the Republicans.

Listen up. It's coming down to this.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

— That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

— That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

NOW do you understand? We The People are serious about America. We are also serious about you and your inactions. We understand that inaction IS action, and for you to go against the principles we hired you to uphold is to PISS US OFF.

And I'm getting pissed off.

Am I alone here?

[radfringe]

1. nope

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. Rice ignored the subpoena?

When was the court date?

[Subdivisions]

52. I believe it was supposed to be May 18th. Anyway,

she didn't show up.

[helderheid]

3. You're not alone. This administration is made of teflon.

[n2doc]

33. They could be made of velcro for all the real investigating that gets done

THe MSM and yes, our representatives, spend a lot of time shielding Bushco from view. We get occasional show hearings to blow off steam, but really, anything serious gets deflected by the enablers. He's teflon because nothing serious ever gets thrown at him.

[demnan]

4. No

IMPEACH THEM ALL!

[bobthedrummer]

5. Not alone nor isolated. eom

[Kazak]

6. So what are we waiting for and how do we get this started?

:shrug:

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

9. Many here have already started.

Call your reps. LET THEM KNOW.

Write your newspapers and TV stations. LET THEM KNOW.

Send emails to everyone you know. LET THEM KNOW.

Write your own rant. LET THEM KNOW.

[Greyhound]

86. Blah, blah, fucking blah. Calling and writing are what we've been doing

for years and it accomplishes nothing other than to tell them what words we want to hear so we can continue to do nothing.

You said it in your OP, it is our duty to withdraw our consent.

It is all that is left.

[MistressOverdone]

108. Can you be more specific?

[tavalon]

124. Not without getting in a lot of trouble

Those sort of things must be discussed discretely.

[MistressOverdone]

131. Oh...THAT sort of thing. Gotcha

[tavalon]

141. I'm just guessing

I'm sure I'm not the only one with that in the back of their mind.

[Greyhound]

140. One idea I heard this I like is for the people to put their "representatives" under citizen's arrest

Not in the "legal" sense, but in a practical manor.

The thousands of angry constituents of a representative (BTW this doesn't depend on party affiliation) wait until their "representative" is at their palatial estate on one of their frequent vacations and simply surround it and keep them there, refusing to let anybody in or out.

It would serve several purposes, a demonstration of their displeasure that can't be ignored and also can't be prepared for and contained, remind them that there are a lot more of us than there are of them and their "protectors", and disrupt the process of corruption. It also overcomes the impracticality of trying to assemble huge numbers of people in a central location, such as Washington DC, where permits are not issued or withdrawn at the last moment or penned into some out of the way spot where they are contained and ignored.

Of course, many of them have helicopter pads or at least the room for one and could effectively escape, with their families, but imagine the reaction to the knowledge that they're not welcome in their home districts. This could be done at their offices, public appearances, etc., they would in effect, become prisoners removed from their havens.

Imagine if the traitorous scumbag Lieberman, for example, knew he simply couldn't go to Connecticut, Or McCain was barred from Arizona.

No bloodshed or violence required, but a definite withdrawal of our consent to be governed by these criminals.

Just one idea, far from complete, but you get the idea.

[NotGivingUp]

120. Writing and calling? Give me a break. Been there done that! nt

[bdamomma]

10. for all that we do here is well and good, but actions speak louder

than words. This despicable regime controls us with FEAR, once we rise above all that crap we will be ready to do something.

[helderheid]

24. I'm working with PDA and encourage all DUers to join me!

www.pdamerica.org

[Truth2Tell]

64. yep, primary challengers.

Find em. Back em. Vote for em.

[loudsue]

105. Vote for 'em? Do you forget who owns & programs the voting machines?

They stole 20 +/- seats in 2006, and we managed to win anyway. Do you think for one minute they're going to let it all slide in 2008?

Watch. Just watch. The news will start turning all the blue states purple, and 24/7 we'll hear how "people are mad at the Dems, and aren't holding the republicans responsible for george bush's screw ups". It will happen. Then elections will be a mess. And when it all shakes out? Dems will prolly have one house of congress, with PLENTY of DLCers put in office (they are REPUBLICANS who have infiltrated the Dem party, REMEMBER THAT!! ), and MAYBE the presidency. They still have

1) The courts
2) The voting machines
3) The media

Done deal. Short of a revolution, we're not going to get our country back.

:kick:

[Just-plain-Kathy]

134. Tucker Carlson already said that "the evangelicals want Jeb Bush".

As long as the media could make us believe that Jeb Bush is electable they could easily put another Bush in the White House.

[bdamomma]

7. no, you are not alone

but while all this stuff is going on about the Dems, there are still other troubling things going on out there, 1) Iran
2) National Security Directive changes made by Bush. There are things going on underneath our radar.

[yy4me]

41. Glad you brought it up. I fear war with Iran will be the national

emergency and the National Security Directive will be activated. How can **** get away with this directive. Can he write anything he wants and that becomes "the way it is"?

Why is there NO outrage in Washington about this document?

[Double T]

8. You are not alone.. Remember, reelection ALWAYS supercedes.........

EVERYTHING else!

[seemslikeadream]

11. you are not alone

[MuseRider]

12. 100% with you.

I can't remember the last time I was this pissed off. Oh yeah, the Alito deal made me pretty pissed off. That was the day I changed my registration. I was not even close to this pissed off.

[Gregorian]

13. There are millions of us. I'd say the majority of Americans.

They revealed a CIA agent! They started an invasion that has killed half a million.

Kucinich introduced what should have been the landslide to impeachment of Cheney.


/sound of crickets.



No, you are not alone. There is something eerily and ominously wrong. Seriously wrong. I'm going from pissed off to worried. And I do not scare easily.

[blm]

14. You're not alone - we are the anti-corruption, open government wing of the Democratic party

and we need to get LOUDER.

We need to support open government Democrats who work to expose the corruption that is killing our country and others, and STOP SUPPORTING those Democrats who will not respect open government issues.

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Nope

[VP505]

16. Not alone at all

we haven't been nearly vocal enough, the elected have lost their fear of the voters which is something we need to reverse. We can argue how we came to be in this situation but we can't allow it to go on any longer, the Democratic leadership needs to feel the wrath of the constituents, it should start at the bottom with your Democratic Representative and work its way to the top, Mr Reid and Ms Pelosi.

[bbgrunt]

17. i'm with you 100%

[trekbiker]

18. You are NOT alone.. n/t

[me b zola]

19. You are not alone

[Dora]

20. If I ignore a subpoena, what happens?

Does a judge send law enforcement to arrest me in order to have me appear?

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

21. You're jailed and charged with contempt and obstruction

and you stay behind bars until you request an appearance before the judge so you can publicly agree to accede to his demands.

[Individualist]

22. I'm enraged

that the vile, putrescent excrement also known as DLC (chaired by none other than Torture Lover Ford) has taken control of the party. Each time I read a post by a DLC rah rah, I think of an H. L. Mencken quote: "It reminds me of a string of wet sponges; it reminds me of tattered washing on the line; it reminds me of stale bean soup, of college yells, of dogs barking idiotically through endless nights. It is so bad that a sort of grandeur creeps into it. It drags itself out of the dark abysm of pish, and crawls insanely up to the topmost pinnacle of tosh. It is rumble and bumble. It is flap and doodle. It is balder and dash." However, I would substitute another four letter word for pish.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

27. I've never heard that quote before.

It's GREAT. Thanks!

[truedelphi]

What a neat quote! n/t

[MistressOverdone]

109. Amazing quote. I have to steal it.

[KansDem]

23. It does seem like all these hearings and investigations are "scheduled" weeks or months away

I'm always a bit surprised when I hear or read "Bushista xyz will appear before this committee on ___ " and the date seems to be weeks away. And when they do appear, there's a kind of milquetoast session followed by a "We need to hear from Bushista abc on ___ " again, some weeks away. I don't get it; why not have them all appear as close to one another as possible and really try to get to the bottom of things? Like maybe have two or three testify the same week? And use all five days of the work week instead of just one?

It appears there have been inaccuracies in testimonies so far, so why not question those who appear to be lying? Why not have those Bushistas arrested who have ignored subpoenas? It's like they all want this to just go away!

I just don't see a whole lot of progress in bringing this gang of thugs and cutthroats to justice...

[RevCheesehead]

25. This is front-page material, IMO.

Thanks. :patriot:

[Sapphire Blue]

26. K&R

Prior to the 06 election, we had the 'do nothing Congress', AKA the 'Rubber Stamp Congress'.

Now we have the 'do busywork Congress', AKA the 'hearings & investigations Congress', AKA the 'hand out the pacifiers (AKA hearings & investigations w/o any results) Congress & pretend they're actually doing something Congress'.

And, of course, w/all the criminals in the Administration, impeachment is off the table. This is not what I voted for. :grr:

[jannyk]

28. Definately not alone. I have never felt so powerless and betrayed

Like nearly everyone here, I believed. I believed that a change was coming. I believed that we were the good guys and would do the right thing. I have been betrayed, and as they say, 'Hell Hath No Fury Like a Woman Scorned'.

I have protested and marched, written, emailed and called. I've donated until I bled and cajoled, whined and bullied others into doing likewise. But no more - it's a one way street and I am a believer no longer. I am irrelevant to them and they are now irrelevant to me. My checkbook is firmly closed, my back is turned. I am eagerly anticipating the next 'begging letter' to arrive so I can respond from my heart and let them know why I no longer have any confidence in them.

I always said that at the first sign of abuse in any relationship I would walk away. I never had the reason to do that until now. They have abused my trust, my effort, my money and my vote and walk away I will. With very, very few exceptions they all cover their own asses first, last and always.

If asked today what party affiliation I have, for the first time in my life I will say 'Independant'.

[Hubert Flottz]

44. You'd be wrong...

Say "They are no longer Democrats like Kennedy and FDR. They are afraid! I am a democrat like FDR and Kennedy and Al Gore...not a fair weather democrat like Joe Lieberman!"

If they don't want to be a real democrat anymore, let them get the hell out of OUR party! I've been a democrat all my life and my dad was too. I'm not going any fucking where!

We need to work at holding our people we vote for accountable, just as much as we need to work toward keeping the GOPers honest.

Running away and quitting just makes it easy for the liars and the crooks to dominate us. One lost battle, or ten lost battles, does not an entire war make! I'll be here fighting the GOP until I draw my last breath.

[magellan]

29. You're definitely not alone

I'm utterly disgusted, outraged, infuriated and frustrated -- and above all, broken-hearted.

This is my country. And while I don't go in for all that "Greatest Nation on Earth" blind patriotism blather, I love her. But I'm afraid I don't recognize her anymore. And too few are doing anything to stop the hideous transformation being thrust upon her. Most don't even see it, or refuse to for their own selfish ends.

That essentially sums up my thoughts on Congress. They're not going to do what it takes, that's plain to me. They'll only do what's convenient to them.

So it comes down to this: what will it take to get Americans as earnestly interested in this country as they are in celebrity gossip and junk reality TV? What will be the finger snapping in the corner of their eye, the wake up call that finally alerts them to how desperately and irrevocably bad things are?

A draft. An economic crash to rival the Great Depression. A war with Iran. Martial Law.

The likelihood of at least one of these things happening -- or worse -- grows every day, so there's hope for a mass awakening. But it pisses me off no end that it will take such hardship to engage Americans in pursuing the TRUTH rather than the feel-good status quo, when involvement now might correct our course and spare us the bloody horrors that a popular uprising will entail.

I do not enjoy writing this. But the ignorance and complacency out there has permitted this sorry state of affairs to take hold, Congress are just as entrenched in their own la-la-land, and it's all going to come to a very bad end.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

34. To quote a great statesman and American:

"I has seen the enemy, and he is us."
--Pogo

We were a Great Nation once- we were the world's beacon of Liberty. When we had to fight, we did it with pride and with great determination, and (as we thought when it was done) we won.

We now know we merely put fascism to sleep for fifty years- what we have now is not in fact a new war, but merely the next chapter of the SAME war. This time, though, the monster is US. And who among all the nations of Earth will take up the banner and stop US?

I simply do not know- I merely know that it is necessary for the world's survival that it happen, and soon.

May God have mercy on our souls.

[kenny blankenship]

30. Pattern of contempt of Congress among Admin officials is ITSELF an impeachable item for the Pres.

They take their orders from Bush, and if they engage in pattern of ignoring subpoenas it is also the President who is answerable for that.

Basically he's racking up a list of grievances against him that reads like the complaints in the Declaration Of Independence. This offense slots into a stack of legal complaints like the one Jefferson toted up against Bush's predecessor and model, King George III, somewhere between:

"He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them."

and

"He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers."

A pattern of ignoring subpoenas, which is contempt of Congress, would not be the lead item in your bill of impeachment, but it is a serious breach of the rule of law, a slap in the face to the coequal powers of government created by the Constitution, and as such it is certainly an impeachable misdemeanor of office. List it after conspiring to start a war of aggression and violating the 4th Amendment rights of the citizens of the United States, both of which are high crimes of state and violations of Bush's oath of office to uphold the Constitution and laws of the US.

If the President's subordinates tell lies to a Congressional committee the President cannot control them and prevent them from doing that. But he absolutely controls their fulfilling the subpoena requirements for documentation from Congress. If they do not comply with subpoenas they should be fired. If Bush has not forced them to comply with subpoenas then it is Bush who is in contempt.

[lazyriver]

31. You are not alone but I understand it sometimes feels

that way. I am shocked that among my friends and acquaintances so few know anything at all about what's going on around them. Most don't even know who Alberto Gonzales is. I asked a close friend who has a master's degree in plant genetics and is a very intelligent person if he knew who Alberto Gonzales is. His answer, "President of Mexico?" At one time, before his two kids and high pressure job, he knew all about politics and the important issues in the world. Now his knowledge of current events goes no further than the current price of gas. I told him to expect a bunch of informative emails from me and encouraged him to start reading.

If this guy is so uninformed, I can't even begin to comprehend the ignorance level of so many other Americans. The media fails us miserably and I believe that to be the biggest reason revolution isn't on everyone's mind.

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[Cobalt-60]

70. is that all?

I was hoping for a little terra.
Try this: Bone us the way the sitting Dems have and it'll be concrete overshoes.

[Nictuku]

35. Nope

[Arugula Latte]

36. Exactly.

If this were the Clinton years, the media would be screaming non-stop, cable would devote hours to the corruption, newspapers would have gigantic headlines, people would be stepping down right and left, etc. But it's the Bushies, so they get a pass. They stole an election, they got a pass. They ignored warnings about 9-11 (and maybe even helped it happen), they got a pass. They let New Orleans drown, they got a pass. They are corrupt to their very cores, they get a pass.

[StefanX]

37. Impeach the whole fucking Congress

They're all dead to me.

It was one thing over the past 6-7 years to keep getting screwed by the other party.

Now we get screwed on the most important issue of the day by our OWN party.

Well, at least it's all out in the open now.

They do not represent us.

Congress has just made itself irrelevant.

[Megahurtz]

38. I've Totally Had It.

And it's not going to change.
As it is right now, there is no "We The People" unless we all stand up,
as you say.

[SeattleGirl]

39. I'm definitely with you on this!

I am so angry at BOTH SIDES -- and the occupants of the WH -- I can hardly think straight. It's as if the entire collection of elected "officials" raised their collective middle fingers at us.

They. Do. Not. Care. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[Usrename]

40. You are definitely not alone.

Heads on pikes!!!

[Larry Ogg]

42. So many pissed off people waking up it’s hard to keep track of.

I did that in 1980 and I’ll tell ya… it was pretty lonely. So excuse me if I don’t cave in! My take is that it’s going to be the middle class killing each other in the streets over scraps of rotting food before people choose to stop electing the hand picked corporate politicians, who allow criminals, who should be behind bars, too occupy the White House.

[tom_paine]

43. I have been thinking a lot on the Declaration of Independence lately.

It truly is the only American founding document we have left.

The only one. The others are long gone now.

[stevedeshazer]

45. You are definitely not alone

I am 100% certifiably pissed off right along with you.

[SquireJons]

46. Not from everything I've read here and on C&L

Everybody is pissed. They've gone and kicked a bee hive.

Apparently Ried doesn't have any ability to get things passed. So why is he the Senate Majority Leader? Pelosi is not much better. The Congressional Democrats better change tactics and fast.

America is idology shopping right now. They've lost faith in the republicans, and have been wanting to see real leadership from the Democrats. Unfortunately, they have yet to provide any, having been faced down repeatedly by an executive branch that has 28% approval. That public display of weakness and hypocracy will not be forgotten. It may already be too late.

Here's a tip. Sack Ried and Pelosi and replace them with Webb and Murtha. Americans would flock to the new Democratic Party... with Dean running the DNC, Rove and the rest of the hydra would be toast.

Unfortuantely, that'll never happen.

[PATRICK]

47. Facing up to the agenda of the new Congress

The game plan put forward that naive social agenda full plate special ahead of going easy on confrontation over Iraq. Investigations have likewise been cautious, deferential and blunted in the process itself because of the same general attitude, the natural victory of the "moderate" majority. The natural dedication to wise political compromise and dignity, order, etc. is a continuation of dupe status as epitomized in recognizing an illegitimate government in 2000. Any surge of truth or courage suddenly becomes apologetic, deferential, legitimizing and from there to being ground further under the heel for all its stoic effort. Gratuitous submission has taken many many forms and all have been deadly and disastrous and manipulated to the hilt. Supposedly the day was supposed to come when a compromised party was supposed to provide some shaded balance to the crime regime. They have never been granted that most dangerous gift, yet keep trying for the tainted prize anyway.

[Warren Stupidity]

51. Webb and Murtha? Those Yeah Sayers? No thanks. NT

[whyzayker]

48. "Am I alone here?"

Not at all. Fighting depression and apathy as we speak.

[AspenRose]

49. I'm still feeling sick with rage, despair, helplessness.

(Maybe I need to take a news vacation.)

[Warren Stupidity]

50. The Blogbarian pajama brigade is ready to march!

Our cups are stained. Our eyes are bleary. We are all out of emoticons. But we are ready to take this to the streets.

[Duppers]

53. I've frekin' had it

I just got a ph. call from the dems asking for money! Can you believe it? I could do nothing but yell at the poor girl on the other line.

I've not been this hopelessly down since the 2000 and 2004 election.

Our country is gone and we don't even have a press reporting it.

It's all a game to them.

Cindy is right.

[PuraVidaDreamin]

54. I stand with you

We have to become more outrageous in our demonstrations

[Connonym]

55. DU has been my consolation many times

I feel that despair and sometimes I think that maybe I should just turn into one of those sheeple who watches American Idol and doesn't pay attention to the rest of the world. I honestly believe that they live happier, albeit unexamined, lives. But then I come to DU and I see so many of you wonderfully bright and articulate people sharing the passion in you souls and I become reinspired. I remember why I care and I'm proud to be able to be here.

I don't want to be all Pollyanna but I do want to say to all of you -- the upcoming primaries may bring some quarrels and raise ire but I hope we can all remember that we're on the same team. We may have differences in opinion but we're all on the same team, we're all trying to fight for our country and see truth and justice prevail. We've got to stick together because together we can make change happen.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

56. Until yesterday I held out hope we WERE changing things.

And then I woke up.

[BeHereNow]

57. Drinking steady because this is reality: We have no representation. Get it?

Prepare... because it's going to get worse before it gets worse.
There IS no two party system.
Can this REALLY not be clear to everyone by now?

BHN

[snappyturtle]

58. You are not alone....

Some say write, call, sign petitions. Some say, "Wait until the next election." I don't know how everyone else thinks, but I think we must be going about this dissent in the wrong way. Nothing is getting done. The hearings drag. Admissions are made and it's discussed and then the subject all but vaporizes. There's talk of impeachment....petitions, banners, we write, we call....all we really accomplish is knowing we're active and emotionally exhausting ourselves. I don't think we can wait until the next general election.....I don't think we have that much time. So WHAT do we do?

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

59. Perhaps some independent citizen's committees?

Put them on the podium one by one, shine the public spotlight on them, and demand they account for themselves?

I'm not even sure I'd frame it in such a tame way- "committee" sounds so harmless. Perhaps "tribunal" would be a better term.

I'm open to suggestion- as they should have been from the beginning.

[snappyturtle]

63. I don't want to burst your bubble, it's a good idea, but it's a

dream I'm afraid.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

65. Why?

Exactly?

Please elucidate.

[snappyturtle]

67. How are you going to get these criminals to sit for a tribunal?

Send them a subpoena? We know that doesn't work.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

71. Gather enough angry citizens together and all is possible.

I, for one, am angry. Are you?

[snappyturtle]

111. You couldn't get close to them.

[Nunyabiz]

74. There have already been 3

Tribunals held the past 3 years and one Citizens Grand jury.

[Rex]

60. They don't work for us anymore, they work for corporations now.

Same as always, but now with a twist of fascism.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

61. Then it's up to us to remind them that WE hired them.

If they're financially beholden to anyone but their constituents then they need to GO.

[Rex]

62. We've become irrelevant, we don't have 20 million dollar

lawyers at our beck and call. We can't force a gas station to move, because we can live there and not make a dime off the land. We don't live in several different countries and have huge assets not even tied into the US market.

Ask them who they work for. See if they can look you in the eye.

[The Doctor.]

66. If they can ignore the law...

then we can too.

When there is no legal recourse, the people will take extralegal actions. These people do not understand history for shit, otherwise they would stick to the law like children to their mother's skirts.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

72. From such thoughts are revolutions born.

The law has already been broken. They themselves have invalidated it. They have nothing to say about what takes place next.

[The Doctor.]

104. ...

Unless they win.

[Seabiscuit]

68. No, you're in good company. n/t

[La Coliniere]

69. Misery loves company

I hear ya. I've felt this way since January 1981 when Ronnie and Nancy were given the keys to the kingdom. Billy Boy was a major disappointment for me. And now I'm living through this. Yeah, I'm perpetually pissed.

[Nunyabiz]

73. I have been saying this for 3 years now

These Treasonous war criminals that stole the White House have everything all sewn up, there is no recourse that can be taken anymore.
Supreme Court? yeah right....Impeachment? Nope. We cant even get them to answer questions, they lie cheat and steal and the criminally complicit mainstream media back them up on every occasion & cover up all their crimes.

The ONLY option left is 10s of Millions of damn angry American Patriots to take to the streets, destroy Faux News should be job one then turn to the rest of the media and say start singing the truth are you are next.
then on to the White house surround it and smoke em out.
There is no other option left.

[libodem]

75. Not alone

I don't get this 'above the law' clause they seem to be operating under.

[autorank]

76. Six

I enjoy your posts:

"They do not recognize that it is WE who signs their paychecks. "

That's the essence of all of this. We are the employer, they the employee.

Here's one bit of optimism for you. Conyers and Waxman are 'old dogs' and they know just what they're doing. They'll be delayed but not deterred when, as recently, they're leading the charge up the hill only to look around and see nobody is behind them. They did not stick around all this time to lay down, not them, maybe others but not them. I recall those two in their hey day, they were great, and they're better now. The bench is very thing, right now, but the beat goes on. There's a civil war in the ruling class that's the meaningful subtext for the affairs that we see. That rages and none of that opposition is going anywhere. They either win or lose everything. Kind of like us, so being pissed off is exactly where we need everybody to get. I'm completely blown away by the public. I've never seen a majority formed on an issue with out help form MSM, but it's happening. Look at
http://tinyurl.com/32wood">THIS. We're at maximum strength! You think that this 71%, of which you and I are part, are going to take this shit any longer than they have to. Over the next few months, the number may go up a few points to 75% but the intensity of that group will grow exponentially. It's hard times for the vote villains, looters, war mongers, and rip off artists. Keep that attitude cooking.

First the truth, we discover the tiny man behind the very large edifice, then the awakening.



(Fire rainbow, very rare, captured at Washington, Idaho border recently)

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

77. OT- That is a VERY cool sky pic. Your work?

Thanks for the encouragement, BTW. We need all of that we can get. You're right- we need to marshal our anger and keep it going. They're depending upon us to lose it by next week's Very Special Episode of whatever's on the tube right now. One small problem- I don't watch TV any more, so it's easier for me to maintain my state of honked off-edness.

[autorank]

78. Less TV, more realith.

Not my work, but this is. Fuck 'em, we're not leaving!

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

80. Thanks for the link.

I'll roam your site as I have the time. Looks worthy!

[autorank]

102. Hope it's helpful. We'll prevail, they'll falter, but it's a struggle.

At least this clown is gone, and his pre-paid girlfriend broke up with him.

[Terri S]

135. That was a GREAT piece on Comey

I'm still trying to figure out why absolutely nothing came of it. I mean nothing! There it was..ironclad cause for impeachment. From there you keep pulling at all the other strings to unravel the entire fabric... but nothing! And no one even talks about it anymore. I don't get it.

[whathappened]

79. 110 percent behind ya

some days i just feel like throwing this computer and the tv right the fuck thru the window ,ya get my point

[wiggs]

81. It's all a giant Hannity and Colmes show. nt

[Individualist]

129. Sponsored by the DLC!

[babylonsister]

82. Sweeeet! You are not alone. nt

[swimmernsecretsea]

83. Aw, HELL NO, YOU'RE NOT ALONE!

Sorry for shouting. It's just how I feel.

[Monticus]

87. So our own party finally shafted us, but good.

I have spent a bit of time reading about how angry everyone is. I'm not that impressed. Sitting in the living room being angry. Let's see, if we don't contribute our time and money then we get the wingnuts controlling everything again. Not good. We need to boycott those who fund candidates who fail to meet our expectations, and we need to let them know we are doing so. Forget addressing the candidate. Regardless of party affiliation, they only want to preserve their own power. Those who really back them financially are the ones with something to lose if thousands refuse to spend their money on what they have to offer.

If you think Reid is impotent, find out his corporate sponsorship and let THEM know that you will not spend any money on their products or services if they continue to support him. CC any candidate who more accurately represents your views so that they can court contributions from that entity.

We can't get the money out of the system, but if we are genuine in our outrage, we can affect where the money goes.

Sorry for such a rant from a newbie.

Cheers!

[swimmernsecretsea]

88. I do things.

That's why this makes me so angry. I remember standing in a bar watching the results with people I'd worked with and for for Moveon.org, making calls, our exhaustion giving way to delight, then to amazement, then disbelief when we saw what our efforts had accomplished. We all couldn't believe that things had turned for us.

And they took that good feeling, all of those democrats that we helped into office, and shat on us the way that bird did to Bush's suit. Do we get brushed off the lapel like that?

I know. Stupid metaphor. But I'm pissed. And the last time I got pissed like this, I was motivated to do something.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

89. Remarkably, even newbies have occasional good points.

Welcome aboard, and feel free to rant all you want!

[Duane Behrens]

84. You're not alone. . . .

And I'll be passing this one around. Thanks very much indeed.

Duane Behrens
Ely, Minnesota

[juno jones]

85. We are not alone

and yes, they have violated their end of the compact. We are within our rights to resist.

[emilyg]

90. You are NOT alone

[progressoid]

91. I said the same thing after Fitzgeralds' whiff.

I was told to "be patient." "More evidence is coming." "We're in charge now." "Blah blah blah

We need a fucking revolution, but America is anesthetized by television and french fries. Even the few that could understand how bad it is, don't seem to care. It enought to make you...
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[Decruiter]

92. No you are not alone, I just fear too little, too late. "Pissed off" just is not

going to make any difference. Massive amounts of people in the streets might, it has been happening in other countries, just not here. Hey, by the way, who won this week on American Idol, or Dancing with Stars?

Loads and loads and just more loads of :sarcasm:

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

93. I dream of a truly massive march on Washington.

My problem, and that of most others is, I'm too broke to travel across the country. Gas prices, don'tcha know. Barely enough left after feeding the God of Transportation to feed oneself. (Can't be in any way related, can it?? :sarcasm: )

[tblue]

95. And not just for a day. It should go on and on until they can't ignore us

[Decruiter]

101. There you have it all in a little nutshell. Too broke to travel, to broke to eat.

I'm sure though it can't be possibly be related.

Just remember, "divide and conquer". Look to Eugene Debs, look to Smedley Butler, look to Emma G., heck fast forward and listen to Jim Hightower, Molly I (RIP), Greg Palast, RFK Jr., what more do we need?

Heck, Ross Perot got me motivated way back, then he dropped out and came back. Turns out it was not just his daughter's wedding that was threatened with a major disruption. Remember when he talked about that "giant sucking sound". I never got over him endorsing "Dubya" the night before the election in 2000.

We've (the peons) been sold down the river. Turns out Ross Jr. owns Alliance Airport, the hub in the new "super highway". If you can't beat them, I guess you just have to join them.

And about the travel thing, I just heard on NPR tonight that more people will be traveling this weekend and "be happy", it is still cheaper to drive than to fly, even at $3.00+ per gallon, now go fill up that tank and have a fun holiday. Got it? Good. Have fun and stay safe.

[tblue]

94. The Pissed-Off Wing of the Democratic Party says NO!

[DKRC]

96. You're not alone. Here's an idea

I just read about this today and found out that Gravel is behind it. A movement toward the ideal our country was founded on - government of the people, for the people, by the people.

The National Initiative For Democracy


All the scum in power are never going to overhaul the system that benefits them. There won't be any abolishing as long as they control everything. We need to take back our power.

[DemReadingDU]

106. Very Interesting

[Larry Ogg]

130. Thanks for the link, I checked it out and voted for it.

Not to sure how well it would work if it ever passes thou…

[Beam Me Up]

97. Pissed off for a LONG time! THEY DID 9/11, folks, yes they did.

I've been saying this for years: This is not politics as usual. Our country is already GONE. We don't have a functioning Republic. We have the media driven ILLUSION of one but that is all it is, a fantasy to get all heated up about. The oligarchy that really rules this country do not care what we think of them -- not any more. They've successfully staged a bloodless coup d'éta. Whether intentional or not, with the help of the Democrats, the Left and the Media they have successfully committed mass murder and treason in broad day light and gotten scot-clean away with it. They've killed people with anthrax, bullied us into two unprovoked wars, killed thousands of our service men and women, poisoned and crippled tens of thousands more, killed untold hundreds of thousands of Middle East citizens, robbed us of untold trillions of dollars -- and are now ready to go for the jugular and end this charade once and for all.

All this party-politic left/right stuff has got to stop now. We're all in this together, right, left, center. It is US against a classist, criminal, fascist elite -- and that is the only political reality. All the rest of it, as the OP says, is just media driven HORSE HOCKEY.

[NotGivingUp]

119. it is all an illusion. you are 100% correct. stop the rule of the fascist pigs. nt

[AuntPatsy]

98. I just hope your pissed at the right people, the very ones who have stacked

our justice system for just these events, a child could see what is going on.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

99. Right now I'm pissed at everyone.

Left, right, and center. I figure that way the spread is covered. :evilgrin:

I do know there are a few in D.C. at least TRYING to do it right- the problem is they are being stepped on at every opportunity. Minimize the word, minimize the damage- that's the motto of the players.

The good part is, it doesn't always work. The word IS getting out (witness the astounding response to this minimalist rant o' mine). Pass the word on to the greater mass of citizenry and something is bound to stick sooner or later.

Hopefully sooner.

[AuntPatsy]

100. The word is getting out strictly because of the internet, the media

is absolutely NO help and far too many people honestly don't have time to surf the net needing to work longer hours our more jobs just in order to survive, you have to remember the vast amount of protesters that descended on dc right after the war begun, barely a peep other than to malign their intent as unpatriotic.

My own husband still firmly believes in this administration and don't think that I don't push the truth daily, I just don't understand why so many like him continue to believe the lies that have already been proven as lies.

[puebloknot]

103. You are not alone!

[Auggie]

107. K&R

[GreenPartyVoter]

110. I'm right there with ya

[TomClash]

112. Another American rant

Well said. But what does anyone actually do about it?

[Lost4words]

113. K & R

:kick: 8643

[Greylyn58]

114. Wonderfully said

and totally spot on.

I am so tired of being jerked around by everyone in Washington. Their time is up and they need to listen to us. We voted their collective butts in power to change things and they need to understand that we can just as easily vote them out.

[GenDem]

115. You speak for me!

:kick:

[rhett o rick]

116. Congress is hereby irrelevent. Bush has called their bluff and they can do nothing

but investigate.

[barbtries]

117. you are not alone

not by a long shot
how did thay get this shit to fly?!

[lonestarnot]

118. It's that unitary executive.

[go west young man]

121. It's time for anti war demonstrations outside the offices of

CNN, Faux, and MSNBC. Forget the government. It's time to shut down the media. A million people camping out in front of their buildings allowing no access would do the trick. Something for MoveOn to consider maybe. I'd be there. During Vietnam they camped out in D.C. Today it's different. Corporations and big media control the government. It's time to go to the source and stop their cashflow.

[barbtries]

125. you know what

i think you've hit on it. where do i go to sign up? i'm in los angeles. aka hollywood

[NotGivingUp]

122. they've played their game to the hilt. more and more are seeing the truth. nt

[leftofthedial]

123. I am so angry I see red

[Dr. Death]

126. You're not alone. I'm with you 100%

But unfortunately I'm afraid that the vast majority of Americans are more interested in American Idol and getting cheap stuff at Wal Mart than in ridding themselves of a government that does not represent their interests.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

127. If the Dems don't wise up...

they're going to go the way of the Whigs.

(For those whose memories of American history class are a little distant, the Whigs were the opposition to the Democrats, who at that time were strongest in the slave-holding South. Abraham Lincoln started out as a Whig. However, as the Whigs kept compromising on the issue of slavery, a new party, the Republicans, arose. Believe it or not, in those days, the Republicans stood for the abolition of slavery and the rights of small business and family farmers against big business. Anyway, after Abraham Lincoln's election in 1860 as the first Republican president, the Whig party gradually faded away into nothingness.)

Read the Wikipedia article for more information. It should serve as a cautionary tale for "my party right or wrong" loyalists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whig_Party_(United_States)

[emald]

128. no, your not alone

I'm ready. I'm pissed off at being pissed on. Now what?

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

132. Many things.

Marches. Pickets. Collectively raised voices. If necessary, civil disobedience (a grand tradition that historically has gotten a LOT done for the common man). Refusal to allow sons and daughters to enlist into military service. The withholding of funds from the Party. It's too late this year, but I'd even endorse a nationwide tax strike so as to bring the entire government to a screeching halt next April.

They still have reason to fear us. We are NOT without our own resources, and after seeing the response to this OP, I now believe there is a growing will among the disenfranchised to ACT.

The sleeper is awakening, and his dreams have been nightmares. Watch out, Washington. This is far from over.

[ninkasi]

133. I'm with you.

I'm absolutely furious. Great post.

[Terri S]

136. You are far from being alone!!

[CrispyQ]

137. You are not alone.

In the past six years I have not felt so betrayed as I do this week. I called my rep, Udall (CO-D) & told his office I wouldn't support his senate run if he voted yes on the bill. You could almost hear the yawn. I reminded Salazar's office that I supported his '04 run & that I was pissed that he represents Pete Coors more than me. Another yawn.

They no longer represent We the People.

It's time for a tea party.

[AikidoSoul]

138. so how do we "....throw off such Government and provide new Guards" for our future security?

Taken from the original OP:

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."


How can this be done without violence?

What is so worrisome is that the elections' system has been corrupted. Also -- the "screening" process for presidential candidates and the role of big money -- has corrupted everything to the point that I fear we can never recover our country.

The elite rulers of this country are the folks our founding fathers warned us about.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

139. It probably cannot be done without violence.

People have been shedding blood for their freedoms since the beginning of the human race. When the cause is just, and enough citizens deem it necessary, it's honorable to take up arms and fight for it.

It's how our nation was first formed. It may indeed be time once again to refresh the tree of Liberty with new blood. (Thomas Jefferson)

http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/2074

[AikidoSoul]

143. I hope you're wrong. n/t

[OwnedByFerrets]

142. You are not alone, however,

why do you think he has Blackwater at his beck and call. One word and they are shooting (and our jailing) revolting americans and calling them enemy combatants.
I was thinking yesterday that our one huge problem is that we have no LEADER. We have no Martin L. King or no Malcolm X.
Who is going to stand up and be the leader that Holidays are named after in 2050?

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

146. He may have Blackwater, but do you think he has the military?

Blackwater is a relatively small merc unit. There aren't enough of them to spread around America. And do you honestly believe our military will decide to fire upon us? They're as pissed off as we are.

I honestly believe if a revolution were to somehow begin, our soldiers would stand WITH us, not against us. *bush doesn't even have THAT small comfort any more, although in his little bubble world he may think he does.

[nonconformist]

144. I'm with you 100% nt

[OzarkDem]

145. Something's gone terribly, terribly wrong

The people we've trusted, the ones we vetted and questioned and worked for and supported have continued to betray us time and again since winning the majority in Congress.

I can't put my finger on it, I don't know why its happening, but its gone very wrong.

We have to raise hell like we've never raised it before - with the very people we put in office.