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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:08 PM
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Jeb Bush Calls GOP Plans For Government Shutdown ‘Naive’: ‘You Can’t Shut
Jeb Bush Calls GOP Plans For Government Shutdown ‘Naive’: ‘You Can’t Shut Down The Government’


Making full use of their arsenal for gridlock, many GOP members are itching for the opportunity to force a government shutdown next year. Forming a veritable “shutdown caucus,” a new cohort of Republicans like Rep.-elect Alan Nunnelee (MS), Rep.-elect Tim Walberg (MI), and Sen.-elect Mike Lee (UT) joined veteran Reps. Lynn Westmoreland (GA), Steve King (R-IA) and Louie Gohmert (R-TX) to push the radical tactic, popular among their conservative base. Indeed, Tea Party leaders and their conservative cohort are keen to pull the shutdown trigger, firing warning shots at Republicans who “may be growing squeamish” at the thought.

But “one of the most popular Republicans in the nation” is brushing off such clamoring as political noise. Asked by Newsmax’s Kathleen Walter whether he viewed the “grassroots conservatives” push for shutdown as a “mistake,” Bush dismissed the notion as “a little naive,” because, quite simply, “you can’t shut down the government”:

WALTER: Governor Bush, some grassroots conservatives say that Republicans should reserve the right to shutdown the federal government rather than vote to raise the debt ceiling in the next Congress. Do you view that as a mistake?

BUSH: I view it as a little naïve. First of all, you can’t shut down the government. There are public safety, national security issues, that override a well-intended point, I’m sure, that government is way too big. Better to have a plan on how you reduce the debt by reducing the deficit. And that plan is out there…You can create a roadmap where you have declining deficits that would create a whole lot of confidence, a lot more confidence than shutting down government for a couple of weeks and then admitting that its not going to be finished. It’s harder to build consensus around the tough choices that have to be made, but that’s what has to be done.

Watch it (starting at 9:00): http://thinkprogress.org/2010/11/30/job-shutdown-naive/

Dubbing a government shutdown over the debt ceiling “naive” is a bit of an understatement. The GOP’s first attempt to shut down the government in 1995 and 1996 threatened “worldwide economic catastrophe,” cost taxpayers more than $800 million and “shook international confidence in U.S. government bonds.” What’s more, a failure to raise the debt ceiling would not only result in a government shutdown itself, but would cause “worldwide financial panic,” a “default on the national debt,” a “severe drop in economic growth and employment,” and an “actual increase in long-term deficits and debt.” The GOP plan to threaten public safety and national security in order to secure a full-on economic meltdown is much more than naive, it’s a surefire disaster.

Like Bush, some GOP members including House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-VA) and Sen.-elect Rand Paul (R-KY) are beginning to realize the “chaos” that would ensure from such a policy. As the Washington Monthly’s Steve Benen notes, certainly their public remarks which “position a shutdown as beyond the pale help create an incentive for Republicans to avoid one.” But Paul’s own impossible proposal to find enough cuts to balance the deficit in one to two years threatens “chaos” of its own and “even possibly a shutdown.” Rep. Paul Ryan’s Roadmap, which Bush touts as a good shutdown alternative, is just as misguided. Not only would it radically undermine Social Security through privatization, it would tax the middle class at a higher rate than the wealthy and end Medicare as we know it. While Bush is right to warn his comrades against a shutdown, his misplaced “hope” that younger GOP members will “show a better path” appears to be equally naive.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:10 PM
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1. .... and in rides the less insane White Knight to save the day
Yep, he wants to run for president.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:15 PM
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2. I've thought all along that this is the old-guard Republican strategy - let Palin and the
'baggers fire up the base and scare the middle, and then trot out a 'sensible alternative'. However, it's pretty clear they're overplayed their hand: genies don't go back into bottles so easily. And of course, by playing along with the 'baggers for short-term advantage, they've royally screwed the country and set civil political discourse back by a millennium or so...
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:17 PM
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3. Yep. My first thought was...
"We've just seen the first tentative steps of a Jeb Bush race for the White House."

Then I threw up a little in my mouth.
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:25 PM
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4. I remember reading somewhere that Seniors biggest regret
was that Junior ran for Pres before Jeb. He didn't come out and say it, but he knows junior would fuck it up for Jeb.

(I recall this from 1999/2000 I believe)
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:46 PM
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10. You would think the 8 years of Junior would have made Jeb too toxic to elect.
But Democrats can be counted upon to be all civil and bipartisany no matter what, so nobody is going to remind people of the GWB presidency. It wouldn't surprise me to see mindless voters send yet another Bush nightmare to the White House.
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:06 PM
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11. Yes, we really lost a golden opportunity to prevent another regime
such as Junior's by not prosecuting him to the fullest extent.

I don't see a nut like Palin getting in, but another Bush is very likely in our near future. Personally I think the nut would be far less dangerous than another Bush.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:26 PM
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5. What was that Failin said about lipstick on a pig?






Bighead Jeb is a son of a Bush and no amount
of lipstick will ever change that.


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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:27 PM
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6. "bighead"! you stole my nick! seriously, that head is seriously out of proportion to his body.
the barbara genes, he got them all.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:34 PM
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7. Boy, I'll bet that pig can play rough. He looks like he's about to blow.
Do you have any idea what caused that look...other than being a spoiled brat? What was the occasion?
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:40 PM
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9. I don't know what prompted it.




But I think that's his Tommy Smothers Mom always liked you best look.


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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:38 PM
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8. K & R nt
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