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tyedyeto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 09:38 PM Original message |
Emergency rooms are not supposed to refuse service..... |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. I don't know about where you are, but I can tell you about Ga. and Pa. |
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tyedyeto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. What kind of hospitals/ urgent care facilities are those? |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I'm talking aobut the local hospitals in both States. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. 1986's Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act says they can not refuse |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. That is also how I read the Federal law for Hospitals that accept Medicare dollars n/t |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. What they said. |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
42. As Secretary of H&HS, Tommy Thompson changed the internal rules so pregnant women in labor and their |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
4. It's only life threating care they can not refuse |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
7. Let's be a little more forthcoming here |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
8. OP of other thread started by saying had serious illness. |
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tyedyeto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. My bad for being logical when the Op said was NOT seeking med. advice |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. my bad for expressing sympathy and concern. |
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tyedyeto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Where is one to go when they may not have 'life threatening' symptoms... |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. THAT is where the real breakdown is |
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Roon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 11:11 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. I walked into a packed ER last week |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 11:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I hope you are feeling better |
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Roon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 11:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Thanks horse |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-25-07 12:39 AM Response to Reply #24 |
50. 1 option I found out about is talking with billing people about sliding fee |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. The MORTALITY rate for pneumonia is 10-25% |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I saw that thread, and it seemed pretty clear to me... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Maybe acknowledgment would have been welcome, though. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. I know. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 11:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Okay. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Thanks. I really do appreciate it. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. I don't think that by "welcome" anyone means greeted with flowers. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. And sometimes people mistake the coldness of ERs as uncaring. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. I totally agree that people who resort to the ER are not at their |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. The hospital that I worked for had a self-funded insurance plan |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. The real catch is, when you need them the most, you tend to be |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I know. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I'm sorry to be such a pain. So many fires, so little time. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:52 PM Original message |
Not a pain |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
11. There are certain things that cannot be turned away |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. They tried to turn me away with a head injury. I had to call a friend |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. I totally agree it is insane |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Bobbie is right. We have to work on this. n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. The system is broken. copy/pasted from another topic |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. The last time I went to an ER after my schizophrenic partner |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
18. EMTALA laws forbid that |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. We've seen no improvement here. |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
32. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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Luna_C_06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
34. How is bobbolink doing? |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-25-07 02:48 AM Response to Reply #34 |
54. Unknown, but I feel I can safely say... |
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Luna_C_06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-25-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Damn... |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
36. Or they could just leave you in the waiting room until you die |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
40. They admit you, but they don't do much until the insurance |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 11:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. And it can be very subtle. During my head injury fiasco |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. When my husband died,I had to call 9/11 while I was trying |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-25-07 12:07 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Yes, we do. I'm so sorry, hermanita. |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 11:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Under Clinton appointee Shalala the poor had a right to treatment to stabilize the medical condition |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-24-07 11:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. I am not sure if it is just Texas |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-25-07 12:12 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. That is exactly the sort of behavior that was an EMTALA violation under Shalala but was made legal |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-25-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. Thank you so very much for taking the time and energy to followup with REAL information. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-25-07 12:18 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. It doesn't work in cities. I'm really not exaggerating when I say |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-25-07 12:48 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. But it DOES work in cities; it works exactly as Thompson intended it to work to benefit hospitals |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-25-07 12:52 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. You have a good point there. |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-25-07 01:01 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. The big hospital corporations dictated Thompson's new EMTALA regulations just as Big Oil dictated |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-25-07 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
56. How 'bout some recommends for an important topic?! |
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