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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 05:31 PM
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Federal Highway Administration Is Ordering All Local Governments to Buy New Street Signs
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/local-governments-told-buy-street-signs/story?id=12256322

READ THIS: Local Governments Told to Buy New Street Signs
Federal Highway Administration Is Ordering Local Governments to Buy New Street Signs That They Say Are Easier to Read
By JONATHAN KARL

The federal government says THIS is harder to read than This. Got that? ALL CAPS are bad. Mixed Case is Good. It's just one reason the Federal Highway Administration is ordering all local governments -- from the tiniest towns to the largest cities -- to go out and buy new street signs that federal bureaucrats say are easier to read.

The rules are part of a tangle of regulations included in the Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices. The 800-plus page book tells local governments they should: increase the size of the letters on street signs from the current 4 inches to 6 inches on all roads with speed limits over 25 miles per hour - the target date for this to be completed is January 2012; install signs with new reflective letters more visible at night by January 2018; and whenever street name signs are changed for any reason, they can no longer be in ALL CAPS.

In Milwaukee this will cost the cash-strapped city nearly $2 million -- double the city's entire annual for traffic control. In Dinwiddie County, Virginia -- with lots of roads but not many people -- the cost comes to about $10 for every man, woman and child. "The money is better spent on education, or the sheriff's department or on public safety than something like that," said Harrison Moody, chairman of the Dinwiddie Board of Supervisors. Many local residents in Dinwiddie say their current street signs work just fine, and they see no reason to change them. "There are a lot of people out there that are hungry," said Dinwiddie resident Thomas Davis. "Why spend on street signs when everybody can read a street sign or, if you don't know where you're going, get a GPS."...

Whether or not requiring cities and towns to replace all their street signs improves safety, it would undoubtedly be a windfall for the multi-billion-dollar-a-year sign industry. The American Traffic Safety Services Association -- which represents companies that make signs and the reflective material used on them -- lobbied hard for the new rules. And at least one key study used to justify the changes was funded by the 3M Corporation, one of the few companies that make the reflective material now required on street signs.

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It's about time our crappy roads and bridges get brand new shiny signs.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 05:33 PM
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1. A clever way to get the economy going????
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TNLib Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 06:41 PM
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9. Sounds like Graft to me
I'm willing to bet that someone is getting kick backs or major campaign contributions.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:05 PM
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14. I would bet you are correct.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 05:35 PM
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2. The libertarian point of view starts to make more and more sense.
I am waiting for a law that says that all adults over the age of fifty have to wear adult diapers.

Yet another way to bring some money to the industrialists, while doing nothing really constructive at all.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 05:37 PM
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3. Some clarification:
The conflation of regulations regarding these two new types of standards for signage - retroreflectivity and mixed case lettering - has created the impression that all states must change every street name sign to used mixed case lettering by the year 2015 (at considerable cost to those states). This impression is false. The only connection between these two standards is that if states have to replace some of their street name signs to meet the new retroreflectivity standards (which they are required to do by 2018), then those replacement signs must use mixed case lettering. Otherwise, there is currently no requirement that states remove and replace street name signs which use only upper case lettering — such signs may remain in place until they reach the end of their service lives.


http://www.snopes.com/politics/traffic/mixedcase.asp
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 05:39 PM
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6. Thank you for that clarification.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 06:37 PM
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8. As usual the media gets it wrong. I bet it was intentional.
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 05:38 PM
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The old "broken window fallacy"
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 05:38 PM
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4. "The new regulations, which were written under the Bush Administration..."
An important point not to be missed.
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 05:38 PM
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5. Now i'm beginning to see. Pun intended.
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 06:29 PM
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7. New signs...


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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 06:49 PM
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10. I have been in the drawing field for more than 30 years
We always use caps on drawings. Hell, when I write, I use all caps, it is a hazard of the trade and I have not actually drawn anything for nearly 10 years.

But even in the CAD world, all uppercase is preferred method for annotating a drawing.

I guess maybe that is why I don't have any problems reading the damn street signs.

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Paper Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 07:19 PM
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11. Stupid waste of money. Do these people have a brain?
The food pantries are bare, towns are out of money. Every other house is for sale, people have no jobs. Teachers have to bring their own supplies, kids also have to bring their own necessities too.
I could make a list a mile long. There are a thousand things more important than new street signs.

Maybe for the sign industry...that is the only business that would benefit. Don't tell me this is a good thing for anyone else..

Geeze, what a bunch of jerks.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 07:20 PM
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12. It's a bad story. Read the clarification.
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Old Troop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 07:22 PM
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13. How does the Federal government have the power to order local
authorities to do this? I'm really asking.
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