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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:50 AM
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Is the recession over for you?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:51 AM
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1. LOL... Not. Even. Close.
It's still crappy, as far as I can tell.
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hamerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:51 AM
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2. No.
Not by a LONG shot!
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:52 AM
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3. *Wishing and hoping...*
Hoping and wishing.... :D
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Paper Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:52 AM
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4. Nope! It is more like Depression. I doubt if I will see the recession
over in my lifetime.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:55 AM
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5. In significant ways I'm better off than six months ago
But I most certainly wouldn't say that the recession is over for me.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:00 AM
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6. i wish. sigh. nt
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:01 AM
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7. I Just Heard Of More Lay-Offs...
The industry I was in has been destroyed by a combination of corporate gluttony and the destruction of the consumer economy. This has led some companies into bankruptcy and others still underwater with large debts to pay. Revenues are up this year compared to last year but that's like saying instead of your team losing 100 games, it only lost 95. Maybe the creditors are buying this but I doubt it. Instead I'm hearing of new "cuts" as early as the middle of December and surely throughout the first quarter. Lately there hasn't been a week that goes by where I haven't heard of or from an acquaintance about losing their job.

This recession/depression is far from over. The credit time bomb continues to tick for many...either the lack of getting it or the prospect of getting revolved into bankruptcy or worse. I do see some positive things on the horizon, but that's not anywhere near where we are now.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:03 AM
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8. Only because it turned into a depression. n/t
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:06 AM
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9. Far from out of the woods but do see evidence of the sun here in Mirkwood
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:08 AM
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10. Never really impacted me
steady job with regular pay raises. I consider myself very lucky
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sammytko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:33 AM
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15. me neither - still getting my regular pay
I have been saving more.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 10:10 AM
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23. Same here...but it has touched our sons' lives
:(
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 11:53 AM
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47. I'm lucky too ...
... but have some good friends who are still looking for a job.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:13 AM
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11. nope.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:16 AM
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12. Hells no.
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:24 AM
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13. No...No...and Hell NO...nothing will really change until people are back to work....
And since the Greedy Corporations are sitting on thier cash...nO one will be hiring..Wall Street, Big Banks and Corporations with help from Republicans have us just where they want us broke and begging....
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:32 AM
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14. Dupe:
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 09:35 AM by Scurrilous
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:24 PM
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28. That smiley is perfect to accompany your silly post
Thanks for keeping track of things I post. Clearly I mean a lot to you. I'm flattered.

That post you linked to is 2 months old. Hardly a "dupe" ...... but you go ahead.

:eyes:
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Celtic Raven Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:45 AM
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16. Hell no
Still unemployed.
Still broke.

But the banksters and the corporations are rolling in money so it's all good right?
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:47 AM
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17. I don't spend as much as I used to..making do with less..
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:50 AM
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18. I would say that I am in recovery now but nowhere near fully recovered
Honestly, I may never fully recover from this one. Still, things have stopped getting worse and have begun to get better.
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tinkerbell41 Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:54 AM
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19. No!
I worked 6 mos out of the last 2 yrs. My industry has been destroyed, construction, I don't see any improvements. Right now I have another 2 yr wait to go back to work.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:55 AM
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20. Yes. Most of the self employed can see things picking up.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:26 PM
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29. I don't think that's true.
Unless they're solid waste haulers. For them, things are always picking up.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:47 PM
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34. I find an interesting indicator is my side work
I do voiceovers in english for companies here n Asia. Promotional videos and such. So, obviously they are marketing to western markets. The last four months, my work has increased by four times as much. So, there must be a pick up in the market.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:58 PM
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39. hey
if you ever need spanish translations of that material or captions or subtitles, let me know

:fistbump:
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 12:11 AM
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44. sure
:)
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:59 PM
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40. self-delete double post
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 10:00 PM by Capitalocracy
weird
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 02:26 PM
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55. I disagree.
Edited on Sun Nov-28-10 02:27 PM by bluestate10
I am not a solid waste hauler. I saw the economy picking up at around July 2009. Some everyday people, ie, not Wall Streeters, of multinational CEOs, are doing fine. One constant that I see is the amount and type of education that a person has. Creativity also is a factor, a person can have any type and amount of education, but if they are creative thinkers, they can launch great businesses and money generating opportunities. There are just so many opportunities out there right now, from cost efficiently feeding needy people, to communications, to energy, to the environment.
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 02:19 PM
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51. I saw the pickup around July of 2009. nt.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 02:25 PM
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54. Bullshit. I'm self employed as are most of my friends and nothing has Changed
Toeing the white House line alike a crazed fanboy won't change the facts.
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 02:32 PM
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57. If you don't mind. What is your educational background?
Is there something that you love doing? Have you ever thought about business opportunities launched from hobbies that you have and love doing, even if it is nothing more than setting up a website for others that love the hobbies and charging for ad space? Do you have a lot of old junk around the house or have relatives or friends that have old junk that they do not need or want?
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 03:52 PM
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64. Just curious...
What's your angle on the "old junk around the house" or that of friends and relatives?... I might have access to quite a bit of "old junk" and, the recession is not even close to being over for me yet... so I'm interested in hearing your ideas... :/

TYY
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:58 AM
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21. yup. it turned into a depression some time ago
In order to dig my way out of the recession, I took on de...er, invested in myself, and went back to school for a new degree, in Med Lab technology. With 100% employment rate and worldwide shortage, it seemed like a good idea at the time.

Now I'm approaching my final semester -- unpaid, 40 hours/week in hospital clinical training.

Only suddenly the hospitals are taking half the students they used to. Oh, and they're laying off. There aren't any jobs at the back end.

My little boat is scheduled to sink next summer when I graduate and can't find work, unless I can dig enough clams or worms to support my family and pay off my student loans.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:29 PM
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30. Medical jobs were the shining hope for years. Now, as you observe, even they're being hit.
I'm not sure how to explain that. Presumably there is no shortage of customers.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:41 PM
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48. There is not a shortage of sick people. Just a shortage of people who can afford medical care
10 years ago it was standing room only in my doctors office. Had people waiting outside the office in the lobby waiting for a chair. Now when I go there its usually me and one or two other people sitting in the waiting room at the most.

Business is way down.

Don
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 10:08 AM
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22. Mostly
my sales are still a bit off, but better than 18 months ago.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 10:22 AM
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24. The unemployment rate in California was 12.4% as of October 22, 2010. So, no,
it's not over for me yet . . . not by a long shot. There's a lot of 'quiet desperation' out there, to borrow a phrase out of context from Thoreau.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 10:26 AM
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25. the debt and expenses just keep getting worse, compounding
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 10:32 AM by bigtree
. . . mostly utility related . . . now its the water bill which shot way up in the summer. I do see spending picking up around here a bit. Maybe the season, but I remember less activity last two years, probably due to the government transitions. We're all feeding off of each others' ability to spend around here, I think, from the stores and technical jobs to the service industry and state and government workers - health and safety workers too - boosted by stimulus funds and whatever optimism we can muster.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 10:28 AM
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26. Nope. Far from it.
I'm nearing the end of my rope.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 10:30 AM
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27. No. Not by a long shot.
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:35 PM
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31. Nope.
Still unemployed and looking for work... for 25 months now and counting.

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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:37 PM
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32. No
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:45 PM
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33. Yes
However, I live in China. But, I lost my job earlier this year... for three months I busted ass to get a new one before my visa ran out. managed to pull that off, then all the people I met while looking for a new job started contacting me to do freelance work on top of my regular job. So, last week I paid off the last of the money I owe from being unemployed and have a nice junk of change in the bank, in fact more than I've ever had before in my life at age 31. So, I'm okay. Sorry to those who aren't.
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 02:34 PM
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58. You sound like an innovative person who can see opportunities then develop them. Good luck. nt
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:52 PM
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35. No, my income depends on the income of my patients and on insurance (shudder) companies.
The terrible irony of therapy is that the conditions that often make you need it the worst don't allow you to get it.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:55 PM
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36. Not Even Close
:kick: & R !!!

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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:56 PM
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37. My recession started before 2008.
And no, it's not over yet.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:58 PM
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38. SHIT no!!!
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 09:59 PM by Odin2005
It's a fucking depression. My mom's bar went out of business last month. It's gotten so bad that the drunks are cutting down on their drinking, think about that!
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mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 10:00 PM
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41. Nope, and even if it was...













I don't consider it over until it's over for everyone.



















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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 10:07 PM
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42. No. Not even close n/t
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 10:12 PM
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43. nope. may not be for years, if ever.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:58 AM
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45. Hardly.
As a "greedy" SSDI recipient I'm up to my eyeballs in recession. Everywhere I turn prices are going up - gas, food, Medigap premium, utilities - and I'm stuck in 2008 as far as my benifits are concerned. The COLA calculations are a big bad joke.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 02:04 AM
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46. no. walked the dog today, at least one empty house on every block.
one had had a fire sometime in the night.

that really bummed me out.

i've never seen it this bad around here.

the only thing holding it up is government checks.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:43 PM
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49. The depression continues apace. nt
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 02:17 PM
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50. Yes. I did not really have a recession.
But I know that people are hurting and make personal decisions to do concrete action to make things better.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 02:22 PM
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52. It is not over for me until it is over for all workers -
and that clearly has not happened yet.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 02:23 PM
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53. Hell no. nt
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elana i am Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 02:26 PM
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56. nope.
i've been unemployed for 18 months.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 02:35 PM
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59. Have businesses stopped closing down in your neck of the woods...
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 02:35 PM
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60. The recession never really started for me.
Actually the past 2 years have been the best ever for my wife and I financially and the recession only added to our income/savings.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 02:36 PM
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61. Thanks for asking..... This is a great question... Maybe it could be
part of a White House web site where people communicate how this recession is still going on for them....
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 03:38 PM
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62. Hell no
I've been unemployed now for nearly 26 months (without unemployment benefits). Last year I was at least able to get some freelance work, but this year, nada.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 03:40 PM
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63. I've been in the "recession" since 2003... (n/t)
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 04:03 PM
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65. Fuck no.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 04:09 PM
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66. not at all
in fact, this year was worse than last. Over the last 2.5 years we have experienced a 70% drop in our income, and there is nothing to indicate that things are going to improve.

I have no work lined up until the 2nd half of Feb., and even that is not a signed contract. We will probably need to borrow money from relatives (again) to get through this winter.

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