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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:33 PM
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Do you hate the Tea Party?
If we hate Republicans or the Tea Party, then we're no better than right-wing groups that hate Gays, Lesbians, or Muslims.

We must not hate the misled and ignorant. We're better than that. We must keep trying to enlighten those that are lied to by media.

Fear and hate are what got America into this mess. And courage and tolerance are the only ideals that will allow us to rise above the sick plans of a few wealthy individuals who seek to divide, impoverish and rule us.

Divisiveness is their goal. Unity is their plans' demise.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:34 PM
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1. DON'T CALL IT THE TEA PARTY
they are TEABAGGERS who deserve ZERO respect
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:36 PM
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2. lolz. Skittles speaks for me.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:39 PM
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4. here's my response:
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies
hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction....The chain reaction
of evil--hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars--must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of
annihilation.

Martin Luther King, Jr.
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:45 PM
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7. Peace by with you Ghost.
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AndrewP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:51 PM
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13. +1
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:54 PM
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14. 'At's my girl!!!! (or izzat GRRRL)
SKITTLES - STILL KICKING ASS AND TELLING IT LIKE IT IS AT THE END OF 2010.

Hey, kiddo, howareya??


:hi:

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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:59 PM
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20. Can you kick everyone's asses that calls the teabaggers, tea partiers??
Thanks!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:54 AM
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52. Lets ALL try THE VILLAGE BAGGERS??? :o)
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:38 PM
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3. I hate people who call me a traitor for being a progressive
Edited on Fri Nov-26-10 07:41 PM by NuclearDem
I hate people who say I disgraced all my fellow servicemembers because I'm a progressive.

I hate people who can't be bothered to read a fucking book from a free public library.

I hate people who hate my President and my Commander-in-Chief because he's black.

I hate people who cherish freedom for themselves, but for no one else.

So yes, I FUCKING HATE the Teabaggers. No matter what we fucking do, they're always going to act like we're the enemy. No matter how much we try to reach out to them, they're going to call us anti-American Communists. No matter how reasonable we try to be, they'll just cover their ears and tune us out.

I refuse to tolerate those bastards. They don't belong in the America I love. They belong in the 1820s, and I say we leave them there.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:41 PM
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5. The Tea Party is a diverse crowd of uninformed people ...
... and corrupt, self-serving bastards.

I feel for the former, and hope they will wake up. There is hope for some of them.

I hate the later.
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Rectangle Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:54 PM
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41. +1 on the above, but may I also add "Willfully Ignorant"
The Teabaggers I have encountered are deeply, deeply invested in their POV.
And any ideas or arguments that challenges their POV is ridiculed, dimissed,
discarded or destroyed. (No critical-thinking mechanism).
In short--CULT BEHAVIOR!!!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:44 PM
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6. No, I don't think I do
What I hate is the system that created them. The people who should have known better, but used them anyway.

Fox News' Murdoch and Ailes, yes. Dick Armey, yes. Rove, yes. I truly despise all of those characters.

But the poor duped fools who follow them, no. They're operating on a Pavlovian level, just doing what they've been conditioned to do. And their conditioning has been been 100% successful.

They REFUSE to listen to reason. Indeed, they've been conditioned to FEAR and DISTRUST reason.

Maybe one day, they'll wake up, give their heads a shake and say, "My God, what have I been thinking all these years?".

But it won't come soon.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:45 PM
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No. I pity them.
It has got to really suck to live one's life in such fear and ignorance.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:45 PM
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8. No. I pity them.
It has got to really suck to live one's life in such fear and ignorance.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:47 PM
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9. None of us are trying to deny teabaggers their rights, the way
right wing groups try to deny equal rights to Gays, Lesbians and Muslims.


False equivalency strikes again
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:50 PM
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12. You reminded me of something I read on Wonkette
As I explain to my Teatard associates and family members when they level this very same "IF U R ALL ABOUT TOLERANCE, WHY DON'T U TOLERATE MY HATE LOL" argument: I do not wish to legislate you into a second-class (or worse status). I hate you because you have dumb opinions, but I do not wish to prosecute you for them. Under my painfully benevolent weltanshauung, you are permitted to be very very stupid, and I am permitted to hate you -- possibly even vocally! -- a lot for being very very stupid. But I do not want the Army to kill you for being stupid. I am okay with you marrying other stupids. I want you to have the same opportunities that I, as a less-stupid, have in this society, if only so I can beat your ass fairly and then laugh at you. I tolerate you. I just think you're stupid. Very very stupid.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:01 PM
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23. I guess it is hard to be hunble
when you are as great as she is.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:08 PM
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30. ?
hunble?!?!?


Humble maybe?


and who is "she"?


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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:06 PM
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27. I don't condone hate or violence, I am just pointing out
Edited on Fri Nov-26-10 08:11 PM by Motown_Johnny
that the RWers are trying to deny equality to others while no liberal or progressive (or moderate for that matter) is trying to deny equal status to them.



The OP is flawed because it equates their attempts to deny equal rights to others with our disapproval of their attempts to deny equal rights to others.





edit for typo
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:11 PM
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32. +1
Exactly. It's a horribly false equivalency being drawn.

I don't feel the need to feel sympathy for a group of people who are actively trying to do harm to their fellow countrymen. Every last one of them that opposes gay marriage or protested the NYC Mosque...
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:49 PM
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10. I hate what they stand for.
Their policies would destroy this country, and it makes me ill to think of what it would be like if the teabaggers got control of the White House and entire Congress.

I don't hate teabaggers themselves, though I think most are ignorant, lazy, selfish people who won't think for themselves and are only parroting the latest Glenn Beck/Sarah Palin talking points.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:50 PM
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11. Sorry, don't care enough. Another bunch of political tools being used is all I see. nt
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:55 PM
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15. Yep. If I had the authority I'd call an airstrike in on all of them.
Napalm, white phosphorus, whatever.
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:58 PM
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18. As much as I hate the teabaggers
I don't condone violence.

Let's just shut them out, leave them behind like we should. They can dwell in piles of their own shit for all I care.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:59 PM
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19. If they had their way about it they would round you up and put you into a camp.
This is fucking war, son, and the sooner y'all wake up, the sooner we can finish it.
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:01 PM
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21. I know...I know
I just try not to give into my dark side. It's what separates us from those fascist assholes.

You're right though...which makes me sad that Americans would do that to other Americans...
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:04 PM
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26. Learn to defend yourself, you might very well need it.
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:07 PM
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29. I know, and if it comes down to it, I'm ready for them (nt)
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:56 PM
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16. Pablum. Perhaps admirable pablum, but pablum nonetheless.
"Gay" is not the antonym to "homophobic."

"Live and let live" is not balanced by "My way or die."

I'd agree that hating individual teabaggers is a waste of time and corrosive to the character. But applications of courage (to do what?) and tolerance (of evil?) are insufficient to bridge the divide. What's more, unity is impossible in a pluralistic society made up of millions (billions!) of individuals. As it's impossible, it's not worth pursuing -- and not merely because it's a waste of effort, but also because unity is sterile and easily diverted into channels that please only the masters.

Reason, fortitude, scorn of the wicked, and relentless pursuit of a high place from which to speak -- that's how we get to where we need to go.

Mere kumbayah won't cut it in the real world.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 07:57 PM
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17. What I hate
Are the groups that are behind the tea party uprising! While there may be some really bad people in the tea party groups, I think most of them are scared people who have allowed false information into their minds and have fallen victim to the right wing fear and smear machine! I know for a fact that people who fall for this crap can regain normal thinking if they stop listening to the BS! My mother in law as obsessed with Rush Limbaugh. She listened to him every single day from way back the first year he was on the radio around my area. She hung on his every word, fell for his propaganda and was convinced that everything he said was the "truth" and we had to listen to him if we wanted to be saved. Her whole life became one big conspiracy theory and she worried all the time about the Clintons and the "liberals" who were going to destroy the world! A couple of years back I had to replace her old stereo system, it actually had an 8 track player in it, and the new receiver we set up had an external antenna that had to be hooked up so she could get the radio to work. For some reason, she has had several strokes, she kept on moving the antenna and it pulled the wires out of the receiver. I put them back in a couple of times, but one day I noticed she wasn't listening to Rush anymore. My wife asked her why and she said the damned thing was to full of static so she gave up on it and started watching TV instead. She is still a republican, but she is not worried all the time anymore, and she isn't telling us all of Rush's paranoid rants everyday like she used to.

Same thing with my dad. He started watching Glenn Beck and was really getting worked up over his BS. I kept telling him Beck was full of it and he should actually look up whatever the idiot said before believing it. Last summer he told me Beck was "crazy as hell" and he had stopped watching him. Now he still watch Fox, but not watching Beck is a start and he isn't half as confrontational about Obama as he used to be.

I lot of people have come to their senses over the years when it comes to Rush, Beck, and the other moron talking heads on the right. I agree with you that we can't stop trying to reach them, and I do belive their is hope that we can reach some of them. As a former alcoholic and drug user, I am glad people did not give up on me or I would probably be dead right now. I change my life and have been clean and sober for 25 years as of Halloween 2010! I have worked with and helped many others who were in the same boat I was in to get clean and sober so I know people can change. It may take time but it can work, and I am with you on this 100%! The right is hate and you can't fight them with more hate!

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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:16 PM
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34. There is no such thing as a Tea Party uprising...
The Tea Party is just the right wing grass roots that had to invent a new banner to follow since the Republican brand name had become garbage.

Give them credit, they did get active and are trying to purge the Republican party of what they consider RINO's. By doing so they are scaring a lot of the remaining moderate type Republicans into being more right wing. This is no different than what many people on DU call for us to do to our DINO's. The difference is, they are actually doing it.

Still, there is no real Tea Party uprising in the general population. The Tea Party is just another name for Movement Conservatives and it is influential only within right of center circles.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:01 PM
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22. Now that the election is over can we stop calling them the "Tea Party"?
They are just Republicans now. Not like they ever were anything significantly different, but they really are just RW Republicans.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:02 PM
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24. I don't hate them. I worry that their misinformation will lead them to do hateful things....
The dogma to which they fervently subscribe is the most dangerous threat to our democracy.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:06 PM
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28. you are very wise.I'll add:
Hatred ever kills, love never dies; such is the vast difference between the two.
What is obtained by love is retained for all time. What is obtained by hatred proves
a burden in reality for it increases hatred.
Gandhi

He also said;

Non-cooperation with evil is a sacred duty.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:24 PM
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36. Gandhi was prescient. But really, I think that between the propaganda being spewed on
hate radio and Faux News and the acquiescence of the Corporate Media, my greatest fear is that one or more of these people will be moved to violence; the hatemongers will feign ignorance; and, whatever happens would be dismissed as an act of the far-right fringe.

I think we live in very sad and dangerous times.
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:28 PM
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37. I respect Ghandi's words very much
But I'll be damned if I tolerate the same group of paranoid hate-mongerers who facilitated the deaths of 168 people on April 19, 1995. These people are a blight on our country, and they're going to get people killed...if they haven't already. This just isn't a situation anymore where we can try to reach out to them...we have to crush them. NOW.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:04 PM
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25. I don't hate. It's counter-productive.
I pity the tea party. I oppose the tea party. Sometimes I'm angry at them.

I don't hate them, though.

I do my best not to hate. The hardest time I have is when I am betrayed by those who are supposed to be my allies; I expect to oppose enemies.

While I don't hate, I experience stronger negative emotions at the mention of Obama, Arne Duncan, charter schools, RTTT, etc. than I do the tea party.

I'm a teacher.

I don't hate. But neither do I forgive, and some bridges are burned beyond recall.

Tea parties? I like tea. I'm not going to a tea party full of misguided and misinformed people who seek power to do the wrong things, but I'll brew a pot and have a cup of tea with most people any time.

I don't use bags.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:09 PM
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31. I wouldn't say I hate them but as I see them having "values"
similar to the KKK without even the shame that caused the KKK to put sheets on.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:15 PM
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33. Just of late, we've been on the same page about the encroachment of
the TSA and the security theater, so I hold my nose and stand side by side with them on this issue. If my grandfather hadn't been such a racist (former KKK member - yuck) I think I could tolerate them more. I get that the PTB want this internecine squabbling among the working class. I really do.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:18 PM
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35. I despise them. They are the scum of the earth. Sorry, but after all the hell they have brought
Edited on Fri Nov-26-10 08:21 PM by earth mom
upon this country and this planet, I refuse to extend the olive branch to sociopaths who will never ever change.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:30 PM
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38. I think the TeaPubliKlans and the Republicrats are breathing my air and consider it a waste of
resources.

Hate requires more respect than I can muster but I could care less if a house falls on them.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:39 PM
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39. I believe many of them do have good intentions, they have just
been mislead and used by Fox News and corporate fat cats.
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:11 AM
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50. They believe the crap because they want to believe it.
Fox News and RW radio are just telling them what they want to hear.

And you know what? Some of them DON'T believe the crap, but but still enjoy listening to it and propagating it themselves. They just want to hear Democrats being badmouthed, and THEY DON'T CARE whether the stories are true or not. The worse the story, the more evil or stupid the Democrats are made to appear, the more they like it. It doesn't matter if it's a lie. I'm related to people who are like this, and I can't for the life of me understand that level of hatred.
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rury Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:53 PM
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40. I hate them
there's a time to love and a time hate according to the Book of Ecclesiastes.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:55 PM
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42. Yes I hate them. But I hate the Koch brothers more.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:56 PM
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43. I don't hate anyone. I do hate their actions. But at heart, I think they're wrong, not evil.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:58 PM
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44. Gandhi said:
To forgive is not to forget. The merit lies in loving in spite of the vivid
knowledge that the one that must be loved is not a friend.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 09:10 PM
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45. Well, I ain't Gandhi, but I think that's kind of the thing I'm trying to go for.
I hold them accountable, but getting angry is not the same as hating.
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BanTheGOP Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:27 PM
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49. I DESPISE the Tea Party...Hate is too weak
I cannot tell a lie, and have to assert my utter, vitriolic hatred of the result of the unabridged, runaway despotism known as the republican Party, the "Tea Party." Based upon an event that bastardizes historical events with that of the super-elite, super-rich white corporate bastards over that of the working class, I cannot stand back and try to "reason" or "understand" the motivations of a regime gone bezerko.

The teabaggers are, by far and away, the most DANGEROUS group of subhuman scumsucking nazis ever put out on the face of this planet, and their aim is to DESTROY the progressive movement.

OF COURSE I HATE THE MOTHER - F***ER TEA BAGGERS!!!

That is why the republican party NEEDS TO BE BANNED already!! So we stop with discussions of this nature!!
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 09:25 PM
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46. Of course I hate the teabagger party.
I hate what they stand for.

I don't hate them as individuals, though I feel sorry for them for being brainwashed so easily. If I actually got to know some of them, I would probably not be very fond of them.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 09:31 PM
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47. Yes I HATE & the liarO'Loofah & no I won't go Jon / 3rdWay
If you think they will EVER bi-your-partisan-crap, fergit it. I'm disappointed that Jon turned out to be a L.A.Law dweeb/crapper.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 09:55 PM
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48. Naw, they aren't worthy of my hate
I have bigger more important things that much more worthy. I don't waste time worrying about them, they're really irrelevant to me. :shrug:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:25 AM
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51. I don't agree with them
but I can't hate on civic involvement.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:59 AM
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53. I don't hate them, but I abhor your obviously inapplicable comparisons.
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