Congratulations Congress on a job well done

[Horse with no Name]

You did it so well you get to have a long weekend.
Kick back, relax, and enjoy your holiday.
By the time you get back to your cushy unaccountable jobs on Tuesday or so, 40-50 soldiers will have been killed, countless will have been injured, and who knows how many Iraqi's will have died.
Hope you sleep well and enjoy those barbeque's you are planning to attend...because I read a report yesterday that said our troops may not have enough to eat.
Again, have a nice holiday. Don't forget to leave your pride behind because Georgie hasn't finished wiping his ass yet.

[Madspirit]

1. Kicking HWNN...and recommending...

Great post. I don't know how they do it...how they look themselves in the mirror.
Lee

[Horse with no Name]

12. I don't know how they do

But you have to wonder if they even have reflections.

[H2O Man]

2. Nominated.

Thank you for saying this.

[Horse with no Name]

14. Thank you.

It needed to be said.

[panader0]

3. What ever happened to the idea of "public service"?

Gee, you might have to miss your flight. my gawd........

[Horse with no Name]

15. They are there to serve themselves and their corporate sponsors.

Not their constituents.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

52. K street must be happy.

no real ethics reform.
AIPAC support at an all time high
their corporate sponsors continue to rake in billions because of Iraqnam.
yup. K Street is in a state Ecstasy

[LibDemAlways]

68. The only time they show any interest in their

constituents is when they're sending out a fundraising letter. Otherwise, forget it.

[rfranklin]

51. That's right, the public services them...

and it's hardcore anal.

[LSparkle]

4. I agree -- very well put

How heartbreaking that this happens on the eve of Memorial Day ...

[me b zola]

32. Damn, I didn't even consider that bit of sick, twisted irony until you posted

:grr:

[truedelphi]

74. Neither did I ABNd now that I have

Washing down the barbecue will be a little harder

[Skidmore]

5. You said it, Horsey!

Well, done. We've a fine flock of chickenhawks up there.

[snappyturtle]

6. K&R Nope....it won't cross their minds.because in their minds

they did their best....hard work, you know.

[firefox_fan]

7. You know what would happen if we did that at our job

when there is a pressing deadline and everything is falling apart? If we took my cushy exteneded weekend off? Well, not hard to imagine...

[southerncrone]

29. Youd be replace w/an illegal alien who would be paid $2/hr.

[KingFlorez]

8. What else could they have done?

Bush vetoed the timeline bill and there weren't enough votes to override it. Congress doesn't have the executive authority to end this war, so there isn't much else they could do. That's the reality of the situation.

[Shoelace]

17. indeed! We need a veto proof majority in '08

come September, it's another matter. Everybody in DC is buying time now.
Dems got their minimum wage passed along with the Iraq war funding bill.
Dems gave it time until September. It's not a bail, it's a compromise.
Wait until we get the majority vote we need in "08, then all the crybabies will stop whining about Dems caving. Until then, it's up with which we will have to put - alot of whiners who do not really understand how politics work.
I'll support my party to the end.
Karl Rove, the consiglori to the Godfather had this figured out all along.
He knew that any vote at all would sink our ship. It's pretty evident here this day.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

53. we need to clean house starting with our leadership.

Either they are with us or agin us.
I never imagined that reid and pelosi would be with bush, though.

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

57. Politics is compromise...

... and if you can get 50% of what you originally put in for, consider yourself lucky.

And, yes, "I hear you". ;-)

[rhett o rick]

81. I'd settle for compromise. We got bupkis, nada, nothing, not one little thing.

Oh wait, yes we got screwed. That's our part of the compromise.

[rhett o rick]

65. Yes let's wait until we get a veto proof majority. Not. nm

[rucky]

20. Not pass anything.

Let the Chimperor and his crooked cronies face that reality.

[AllyCat]

21. Who cares about the friggin' veto!!!

Just strip off the pork and keep sending the damn thing back to him! What? Just because we can't override a veto, we vote along so we look like winners? Good God...

Just send it back until the thing is dogeared and patched with clear tape.

[lefador]

22. They could have kept on sending the bill for him to veto ad inifinitum...

And they could have framed the debate to let people know what a fucking prick Bush is that is willing to leave the troops w/o funding just because he is not willing to compromise. But that would require stamina, backbone and hard work. And to tell you the truth, the message I got was that the Dems were more interested in passing the pork than the job they were elected to do.

Fine, I get the message, Pelosi et al have lost my vote. I know that I am only 1 vote, but that is all I got. So for all I care, Dems and GOP are the same shit, I will give my vote to someone who deserves it.

I hope the pork was worth it for the Dems, because this idiot who worked his ass for this sorry ass party and grassroots in '00, '02, '04, and '06 is not willing to waste his time any more.

Yeah, like I am going to waste my time supporting a bunch of bozos who can't even use a majority in the house to pin a petulant illiterate jackass with a 30% approval rate. Bah... fuck the lot of them, worthless then, worthless now.

[John Q. Citizen]

25. Not fund it. Period. The speaker of the house doesn't have to schedule a vote.

The reality of the situation is the Speaker sets the agenda.

The Democrats didn't have to have a vote at all. No money no war.

Can you drive you car with no gas? If you don't appropriate money for gas your machine stops running. Or is that beyond your scope?

[Swamp Rat]

28. Exactly

Congress holds the purse strings... well, they did, up until the moment they just let Bushler snatch it from their hands.

[me b zola]

34. Nice to see you checking in, Swampy

I didn't know until I heard the (mostly) pathetic speeches before the vote that they had tied money for the Gulf Coast to this bill. :grr: Once I knew that, I didn't know how you or others who were affected so deeply by KatrinaBush would feel about the vote.

You all have been so badly neglected & abused since the storm, it would have been difficult to argue with you if you had felt differently about the vote. :hug:

[Yukari Yakumo]

35. That would only work if...

That would only work if Bush had a shred of humanity in him. Seriously, this is a guy who sees no problem with torture.

To use your analogy, the war is the car, the money is the gas, the soldiers is the driver, and Bush is the extraordinary annoying backseat driver. If the money runs out, Bush isn't going to be the one pushing the car.

The only way the soldiers will come home is when a Dem is in the Oval Office.

[John Q. Citizen]

36. Like Johnson, he was a Dem.

I think you are naive. You don't want to admit that the Dems just bought and paid for the war. They own it now too.

If bush let the soldiers rot, how long do you think their brothers stateside would sit quitely?

How long would their famlies say, whose fault is it? Dems ? Repos?

bush would be run out in a popular upraising.

The Dems could offer legislation to fund withdrawal only. And our troops would come home.

Instead, we keep paying for Custer Battles, and a bunch of mercenaries. And we keep funding the illegal occupation and the escalation.

Wrong. Immoral. Weak. Corrupt.

Do you read the papers? "Dems Bow To Bush!" The papers got it right this time. They sometimes do.

[EVDebs]

60. Agreed ! It's not the size of the dog in the fight but the fight in the dog

Dems are vertibrates ? Prove it. Besides, DOD can't find $2.3 TRILLION

""According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions," Rumsfeld admitted.

$2.3 trillion — that's $8,000 for every man, woman and child in America. To understand how the Pentagon can lose track of trillions, consider the case of one military accountant who tried to find out what happened to a mere $300 million.

"We know it's gone. But we don't know what they spent it on," said Jim Minnery, Defense Finance and Accounting Service."


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/29/eveningnews/main325985.shtml

[Erika]

27. Yeah, tell that to my Marine nephew on his 3rd tour

He's already suffered a concussion and scraped up dead teammates. The democrats are acting as elitist as the Republicans. Damn them all.

[EVDebs]

63. The DOD can't fund the war ? That's funny, they can't find $2.3 TRILLION either...

"According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions," Rumsfeld admitted.

$2.3 trillion — that's $8,000 for every man, woman and child in America. To understand how the Pentagon can lose track of trillions, consider the case of one military accountant who tried to find out what happened to a mere $300 million.

"We know it's gone. But we don't know what they spent it on," said Jim Minnery, Defense Finance and Accounting Service."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/29/eveningnews/main325985.shtml

[rhett o rick]

64. Yeah, so just give the f*** up. That's the spirit. Our founding fathers

would be very proud of you. "The British want to tax our tea. Whatever should we do??".

[Hulk]

80. Stand together and refuse to budge....but then

...I'm not sure that was the right road to take. I hate this illegal and unjust war as much as anyone, but had the Democratic Party stood it's ground and refused to fund this madness; I can just hear the repugs for the next 30 years crying that the Democratic Party ruined chances of winning in Iraq. Think about it. It is going to cost lives and billions of dollars more, but what is the alternative? Cut off funds, save lives, save money...but hear about how we are traitors and we are the reason this madness fails. It could cripple the party for the rest of my life at least. I'm not sure which is better, but I think there are pro's and con's to going this route.

Come September, we better be singing a new song. By then we'll have wasted another 500 American soldiers, maimed another 2000, caused more pain and misery to the people in Iraq that no one cares to hear about. "bringing democracy to Iraq" Wonder how they like it so far?

[aquart]

9. Be sure to eat something imported from China.

[bdamomma]

10. right on, this is no skin off their noses, just our troops.

why did they have to give in to this maniac???

[Solly Mack]

11. *R*

[mmonk]

13. Well said.

I have to bookmark that.

[AnOhioan]

16. Perfect post in response to tonights exihibiton of cowardice

[Richard Steele]

18. Recommended.

[tyedyeto]

19. When I first started reading your post.....

I thought.... what a crock.

Then I realized where you were coming from.

:thumbsup:


edit for typo

[Erika]

23. My marine nephew is on his third tour

and the Dems don't have the guts to put in timelines.

I am sickened by their cowardice. Pelosi and Reid should resign.

[Mad_Dem_X]

42. God bless him

I hope he gets to come home soon, for good. My heart goes out to the troops. They are the ones who are suffering the most.

[Dystopian]

24. Aptly put......thank you.....k&r, eom

peace~

[Straight Shooter]

26. I wonder if any of the "yes" voting members of Congress will be able to give speeches anymore.

Considering that they've got george bush's cock now firmly planted in their collective mouth.

All hail the Lewinsky Congress.

[Karmageddon]

46. "Lewinsky Congress" - I love it. Hope you don't mind if I borrow that line and use it often.

[Straight Shooter]

54. Please feel free.

I'm still sickened this morning at the charade that Congress put everyone through. :(

[autorank]

30. Powerful words, this should go everywhere.

Proud to be a fellow forum member.

[Handsome Pete]

31. Even with a majority, Bush handed them their candied arses!

I wouldn't piss in their ears if their brains were on fire. F*ck 'em all.

May their beer be hot, their skins sunburned fire-engine red, and may their BBQ grills asplode in their arse-kissing faces.

Worthless cowards.

[Tyler Durden]

38. Love the curse, and WELCOME!

It's been a long, long war since 1968 and it looks like we're finally going to lose, unless there is a motherfucker of a recession between now and the elections.

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37. Nothing new here

I have seen this sentiment written a good number of times on DU and other internet sites over the last few days.

Meanwhile, over on DKos Senator Kerry gives us a "movement building" message: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/5/24/114745/908

[Usrename]

79. Sure, screw the war, bring it on...

just as long as the party faithful can continue to post their important drivel at DKos, who really cares if the ware continues?

Thanks for putting those priorities back in order!

:sarcasm:

[Me.]

39. They Should Be BBQing

Crow

[Vinca]

40. Well said and recommended. nt

[Mad_Dem_X]

41. BAM!

Well said. I am so pissed off with these people I want to scream.

[blueworld]

43. Well put. They knew what they were up against.

They knew they didn't have a veto proof majority when the elections were tallied. How did they think they were going to accomplish ending this war up against the GOP neocon partisan brigade, by doping the water in the hall cooler?

Persuasion, debate & compromise are great. But with all the facts that have come out about this illegal war, and the clear mandate given them by the voters, they should have continued to push back until the GOP was forced to compromise. It was happening.

Our soldiers don't have a veto proof majority in Iraq; what compromise can they make when they're sent back 3 times poorly equipped & caught in the crossfire of 2000 years of hatred? Iraq is their holiday BBQ. :rant:

[cooolandrew]

44. G1. n/t

[rgbrock57]

45. Set a deadline

Yes indeedy, Congress has yet again let us, the people, down by ignoring the will of the people.
Not surprising in the least BUT we do have to acknowledge the courage of several Democrats who did indeed vote NO to the supplemental bill. Senators Clinton, Obama and Dodd all voted No. They should be applauded for their courage, in the face of overwhelming yes-men and yes-women.

Senator John Kerry is introducing legislation which will compel our Fascist President to obey the will of the people by enforcing a timetable for redeployment of our troops from Iraq. Everyone is invited to co-sign the proposed legislation on the following website: http://www.setadeadline.com Again, this website is sponsored by Senator Kerry and is awaiting YOUR signature. We must continue to ram this legislation down the throats of the fascist administration currently occupying the white house until they obey the will of the people.

Regards

[closeupready]

47. Did Hillary vote no?

Good for her.

[MindPilot]

75. Yes she did, but not until it was safe to do so.

She voted late after it was sure to pass, as did Obama.

[Forkboy]

48. Thanks for the link rg.

And welcome to DU.Not the happiest of times around here,but welcome nonetheless. :toast:

[Larry Ogg]

49. Maybe we could show congress how we feel.

We can buy some of those support the troop’s stickers and some shovels, put the stickers on the shovels and I’m sure there would be enough volunteers to hand deliver each member of congress a shinny new shovel with a message saying, something to this effect, “If the unelected occupiers of the White House cant be removed, and the lame duck congress who chooses to be complicit in their support of his illegal war and all the lies, the least they can do is dig the graves for the young kids dying because they believed in what this country was supposed to be… Or it could say this is what is needed because congress can’t or won’t do it’s job.

[DemDem07]

50. They just really hamstrung the party for 08

idiots!

[smoogatz]

55. I agree. But I also understand why they did it.

Sheer political cowardice. They're all scared shitless--still--of being accused of not supporting the troops. It seems incredible to us here at DU that anyone would be craven and dumb enough to buy in to that old, discredited line of bullshit, but let's not forget that DU is on or near the cutting edge of left political thought in this country (though it doesn't always seem that way, God knows). An awful lot of our Senators/Reps haven't caught up with us yet. Some of them--the smart, courageous ones--will figure it out in the coming months. Others won't, and them that don't should have to face up to that failure in the primaries next time around. I'm personally deeply disappointed in both Clinton and Obama, our alleged presidential front-runners, for their inexplicable failure to lead on this issue--it's just a catastrophe, in my view. That said, I'm proud as hell of my excellent Senator, the Honorable Russ Feingold, for all his courageous work in opposing the war from the get-go, and for being among the first to step up and call for immediate de-funding of the war. Atta boy, Russ. As for the rest of them--those who voted "yea" and those who failed to lead: you just alienated your most ardent supporters. What are you going to do about it, assholes?

[helderheid]

56. Spot ON. Recommended

[nc_gadfly]

58. god help them if any of them decide to go and talk to their constituents

...anyone have any town hall meetings scheduled??

[Tekla West]

59. Cowards/Traitors

Congress sucks. We were let down -- again. They have done nothing but line their pockets and sit on their hands. Tools. Stooges. Dupes. Then they wonder why they have no power. Why they get no respect. The Founding Fathers are weeping.

[Romis]

61. FYI

Attention Democrats: I Told You So! Would You Like to Wake Up Now?

http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=624
http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/

[Larry Ogg]

73. Hi Romis, welcome to DU.

I’m sure you well know, Democrats have faith in what their corporately owned politicians promise, and the key word here is faith. Faith is the substance of things not seen and the evidence of things yet hoped for, and once faith has come it is no longer faith. So just because the Democratic Party, who the majority of Americans put their faith in, fails to deliver what they promised, and the voters who voted for them are beginning to realize they have been betrayed, it is no reason too gloat… Ok it is a reason too gloat; maybe the voters will start voting for people that would put criminals behind bars instead of allowing them to occupy the White House…
Oh and thanks for the links, always looking for those outside the box…

[rhett o rick]

62. CONGRESS IS HEREBY IRRELEVANT. nm

[IsItJustMe]

66. A men and A men. You took the words right out of my mouth. And now one of these clowns will expect

me to get enthuses and excited for the privalage of voting for one of their courageous souls. GIVE ME A BREAK.

[CGrantt57]

67. Just remember, your government is behind you....

and if you stand very still, you can feel them.

Regards,

[Buzz Clik]

69. So, how many lives could have been saved this weekend?

If the Dems had made a couple of small modifications to the bill, voted it through by a slim margin, and sent it to the Prez, he would have vetoed it again. Would the killing have stopped?

Of course not.

Have a nice holiday. I suggest spending it analyzing this situation a bit more critically.

[INdemo]

70. Why dont we just keep filling Karl Rove's corporate media's rhetoric vault

and the Republicans can now rest assured that they will regain the Majority in 2008....Yep the Democratic Majority is finished and every soldiers death being reported should now begin with "because the The Democrats didnt add a timetable to the spending bill".
The corporate media has so far accomplished its goal of spinning this funding bill as a defeat for the Democrats. Its funny I figured they would be spinning it as " a big win for the President" but that wouldn't work as well for laying the ground work for a Republican Majority.

[9thkvius]

71. Happy Memorial Day indeed

Thanks for nothing, Congress. How particularly ironic that in the same week, you roll over on the issue of accountability for the Iraq war while taking a long weekend to enjoy the holiday used to remember those who lost their lives in our nation's wars. Like Senator Feingold and others have said, hoe many more will die over this weekend? Over the next few weeks and months? Because you were afraid of... what, namecalling?

You are going to have a hell of a lot to make up for when you get back, especially if you want us to ever trust you again, much less reelect you.

[Red Poet]

84. Right On

As I said in my email to Pelosi earlier this week, I will never again vote for a Democrat unless the person in question has a long and established history of being both reliably progressive and courageous. At this point, the only Democrats I would consider voting for for President in 2008 are Gore, Kucinich, and Sanders. And neither Sanders nor Gore are running at this time. I sent money to Kucinich and will continue to support him as long as he is running. But the rest will not even get my vote let alone any money. And that goes, too, for my congressman and 2 senators, both of whom voted in favor of the Capitulation Bill. From now on, I will be voting either Socialist or Green and not casting a vote at all if there are no progressive third party or independent candidates to either vote for or write in.

Pelosi and her fellow political traitors are banking on all of us forgetting this betrayal or falling, once again, for the lesser of two evils argument. Well, I, for one, have a long memory and will not be forgetting this betrayal. As for the latter argument, Bill Clinton, who enacted much of Ronald Reagan's right wing agenda as President, is proof that the lesser of two evils argument only results in a slower march towards despotism rather than a slower march towards a progressive future. I realized the futility of the "lesser of two evils" approach back in the 1990's, which is why I left the Democratic Socialists of America. Especially after this week's events, I do not regret that decision.

[Gore1FL]

72. No doubt

When the capitulation came up, I sent a note to my Dem Congressman, and Dem Senator requesting new leadership--ones that wouldn't hide in a corner whimpering "don't hurt me."

[catrose]

76. K+R nt

[sybylla]

77. kick

Well Said!

[MindPilot]

78. The Democrats have now formally and officially bought into the war.

They are full partners with Bushco. And just to add a little bit more salt in the wound, they tacked on the minimum wage bill which allows the Republics to take credit for supporting not only the troops, but the working poor as well.

I feel like a jilted boyfriend. I spent all the money on dinner and drinks; she went home with the biker dude.

[peacetalksforall]

87. You hit it square on. We have legimatized AIPAC, PNAC, and the

joker king delusional=dictator and President Cheney.

Dennis Kucinich is a hero again.
Al Gore is still a hero.

Can someone flll me in on what Feingold said and did?

On second thought - maybe George isn't delusional - he IS a dictator. Mr. Kill Kill says Join Me In Killing Our Kids and Innocent Iraqis.

[Megahurtz]

82. Well Said!

Smug, Wealthy, Fucking Assholes!!!:argh:

While people keep dying in Iraq and many of us have not!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[onenote]

83. sorry, but trying to pin blame on Democrats for soldiers who will die this weekend is BS

And of all people, the OP should know it. After all, just two months ago the OP was declaring support for funding with a timetable, which would have left soldiers in the field to die not only this weekend, but for the next six months. I would never pin the blame on him for those deaths, and I'm not going sit idly by and let Democrats in Congress be blamed for them either.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=520766#522561

[L. Coyote]

85. DU Dem Bashers are a Tribute to Falwell. Or, Yet Another Buffalo Jump?

DU Dem Bashers are a Tribute to Falwell. Or, Yet Another Buffalo Jump?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x969589#969810

[Rosa Luxemburg]

86. Round one to Bush, who is batting next?